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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 15,458
    I've never been a big fan of the BMW V motors, although the original M70 V12 was pretty stout. I also could be talked into a S62 equipped M5 or an S65 M3. The newer twin turbo V8s are definitely problematic past around 100k miles. The turbo I4 and I6 motors don't worry me at all.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2014 M235i; 2009 Cooper Clubman; 1999 Wrangler; 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 199,231
    qbrozen said:

    yeah, I REALLY don't understand swapping a Tesla for a 330.

    I've only had about 10 minutes of seat time in the Model 3 @jpp75 owned, and I did have a chance to drive the Polestar 2. No specific test drives of a 3 series, but I've ridden in various Audi's and BMW's that @breld has had in his fleet.

    To me (and, this is 1 man's opinion), the Tesla, while fast, comes off as a bit sterile of a driving experience. There isn't any real feel of luxury in the materials, or the driving experience. I preferred the Polestar, as it felt more like a luxury brand (which it is, being associated with Volvo).

    I completely understand wanting to swap out the Y for a 3-series. Lots of new EV's coming to market over the next few years, so the "uniqueness" of the Tesla will pale, I suspect.

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  • andres3andres3 Southern CAMember Posts: 12,906
    qbrozen said:

    I hope anyone still considering an Audi has learned a lesson here.

    Buy new and properly break in and maintain the engine yourself????

    :smile:
    '15 Audi Misano Red Pearl S4, '16 Audi TTS Daytona Gray Pearl, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,398

    I’m not saying I like the Tesla, mind you. But my 330 was not exactly a thrill ride, either. I could see a Tesla for a 440.

    '21 Mach-e Select AWD, '21 Wrangler 4xE, '07 ML63, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '14 Town&Country Limited, '10 Escape XLT v6, '21 WRX. 58(?)-car history and counting!

  • andres3andres3 Southern CAMember Posts: 12,906
    edited October 2021
    I do have 108K + 48.5K + 51K (and climbing on this last figure) of flawless Audi engine use when buying new and doing proper break-in/maintenance myself. That's over 200K miles. But the TTS will tell the true story I think; it's the wild card and will sway the judgment one way or the other.

    Knocking on wood it gets me to 100+ without sweating.

    Of course, I know my blaming of "buying used" could be completely misguided, but then again, I realize it could also be the problem.

    On a side note the Wife's Tiguan has that super long 2019 VW warranty.
    '15 Audi Misano Red Pearl S4, '16 Audi TTS Daytona Gray Pearl, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaMember Posts: 15,550
    Well, here's another check mark for Audi (or against, depending on your scorekeeping method):

    Blackstone processed the oil samples I sent in (two from this year and one from last, which I thought I lost for a time), and they are fairly certain that I have a measurable amount of coolant contamination in the oil. Based on some reading, I think that the issue is likely to be a failure in the cooling line for the EGR.

    Ironically, my EGR is clearly failing because it set codes repeatedly during my journey last month, so replacing for that issue would largely solve my coolant issue at the same time. However, I don't think I'm going to Audi about it because:

    1. I'll have to fight with them about the 120K limit on the TDI warranty even though their dealer network recorded the issue prior to 120K.
    2. I have no confidence in the quality of the Anchorage Audi dealer's work after their repeated shop failures in the past.

    At this point, I feel much more confident in myself to fix these issues, even though I will have to pay for the parts and put the time in, than I do with the headache Audi will cause. I'm still debating whether to pull the engine and replace the rear main seal at the same time or just focus on the immediate coolant issue (since it doesn't actually involve pulling the engine). All told, I'm probably looking at around $400 in parts.

    The good news on this is that the issue has been ongoing for quite some time (and I foolishly chose to ignore it earlier), so I don't think it is a terminal problem in the short term. I should be able to schedule it into next summer.
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  • andres3andres3 Southern CAMember Posts: 12,906
    xwesx said:

    Well, here's another check mark for Audi (or against, depending on your scorekeeping method):

    Blackstone processed the oil samples I sent in (two from this year and one from last, which I thought I lost for a time), and they are fairly certain that I have a measurable amount of coolant contamination in the oil. Based on some reading, I think that the issue is likely to be a failure in the cooling line for the EGR.

    Ironically, my EGR is clearly failing because it set codes repeatedly during my journey last month, so replacing for that issue would largely solve my coolant issue at the same time. However, I don't think I'm going to Audi about it because:

    1. I'll have to fight with them about the 120K limit on the TDI warranty even though their dealer network recorded the issue prior to 120K.
    2. I have no confidence in the quality of the Anchorage Audi dealer's work after their repeated shop failures in the past.

    At this point, I feel much more confident in myself to fix these issues, even though I will have to pay for the parts and put the time in, than I do with the headache Audi will cause. I'm still debating whether to pull the engine and replace the rear main seal at the same time or just focus on the immediate coolant issue (since it doesn't actually involve pulling the engine). All told, I'm probably looking at around $400 in parts.

    The good news on this is that the issue has been ongoing for quite some time (and I foolishly chose to ignore it earlier), so I don't think it is a terminal problem in the short term. I should be able to schedule it into next summer.

    If I had your ability, tool-selection (assumed), and know-how to operate under the "If you want it done right, do it yourself" saying, there's a reason for that saying! I'd do it myself too!

    '15 Audi Misano Red Pearl S4, '16 Audi TTS Daytona Gray Pearl, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaMember Posts: 15,550
    edited October 2021
    andres3 said:


    If I had your ability, tool-selection (assumed), and know-how to operate under the "If you want it done right, do it yourself" saying, there's a reason for that saying! I'd do it myself too!

    Hahaha; for as long as I've been doing repairs and maintenance on cars, I would think my tool selection is broad enough to cover pretty much every new job. Truth is, though, I don't think there's any "new" jobs I do where I don't end up having to buy some sort of specialized doodad to get the job done. Some are cheap and some are heart-stopping-ly expensive.


    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250
  • corvettecorvette United StatesMember Posts: 9,043
    edited October 2021
    stickguy said:

    I love watching the car ninja tear into some of those.

    My favorite was when Hoovie pulled up in one of "the CHEAPEST" example of some BMW model in the country, and Ninja just gave him an exasperated look and said "why?"
  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaMember Posts: 16,226
    Fallen into a YouTube rabbit hole thanks to Harry’s Garage and the saga of his Lancia Fulvia Zagato. Harry likes Italian cars and British cars so you can imagine some of the rust repair horrors he deals with. Thankfully he has deep pockets and a stiff upper lip. Very enjoyable.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,759
    now for something completely different. this must be very rare, but it is kinda cool. I assume it went through the program/remediation updating.

    https://www.subaruofcherryhill.com/used/Volkswagen/2013-Volkswagen-Beetle+Convertible-cherry-hill-nj-20d52b1d0a0e09af69981ba17c656574.htm

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 19,347
    stickguy said:

    now for something completely different. this must be very rare, but it is kinda cool. I assume it went through the program/remediation updating.

    https://www.subaruofcherryhill.com/used/Volkswagen/2013-Volkswagen-Beetle+Convertible-cherry-hill-nj-20d52b1d0a0e09af69981ba17c656574.htm

    Didn’t those has a lot of electrical problems?

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,759
    a 10 YO VW? odds are.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,398
    A new-to-me rabbit hole:
    https://carfromjapan.com/

    '21 Mach-e Select AWD, '21 Wrangler 4xE, '07 ML63, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '14 Town&Country Limited, '10 Escape XLT v6, '21 WRX. 58(?)-car history and counting!

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 19,347
    qbrozen said:

    A new-to-me rabbit hole:
    https://carfromjapan.com/

    I would worry that it would sit off the west coast for months waiting to be offloaded.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,398

    @oldfarmer50 said:
    I would worry that it would sit off the west coast for months waiting to be offloaded.

    I wouldn’t sweat that at all. Because I’m not on the west coast. ;b

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 3,879

    qbrozen said:

    A new-to-me rabbit hole:
    https://carfromjapan.com/

    I would worry that it would sit off the west coast for months waiting to be offloaded.
    Talk about Russian Roulette. :s

    jmonroe
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  • dad23dad23 ColoradoMember Posts: 730
    @breld, I've probably said this before, but she's a keeper!!!
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTMember Posts: 16,772
    At least you're saving getting an Integra until tomorrow. I thought you might be going for the hat trick. :D
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  • au1994au1994 GAMember Posts: 2,592
    edited October 2021
    breld said:

    Also, my wife walks into my office this morning after perusing the new Motor Trend and exclaims, "You need to get one of these," as she opens up the magazine to a picture of the new Integra in the bright yellow/gold color. B)

    The stars and moon really aligned with y’all two didn’t they?

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,759

    At least you're saving getting an Integra until tomorrow. I thought you might be going for the hat trick. :D

    Well, they don’t come out until the spring, so forced to wait.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD , 2022 Ford Maverick Lariat Ecoboost FWD.

  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaMember Posts: 15,550

    qbrozen said:

    A new-to-me rabbit hole:
    https://carfromjapan.com/

    I would worry that it would sit off the west coast for months waiting to be offloaded.
    I found your wife's van! It is, perhaps, too understated, but that is offset by the incredibly low price tag....

    Classy RHD
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,398

    @xwesx said:
    I found your wife's van! It is, perhaps, too understated, but that is offset by the incredibly low price tag....

    Classy RHD

    That is pretty fantastic. But $45k for a 1990? Oh hell no.

    '21 Mach-e Select AWD, '21 Wrangler 4xE, '07 ML63, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '14 Town&Country Limited, '10 Escape XLT v6, '21 WRX. 58(?)-car history and counting!

  • au1994au1994 GAMember Posts: 2,592
    xwesx said:

    qbrozen said:

    A new-to-me rabbit hole:
    https://carfromjapan.com/

    I would worry that it would sit off the west coast for months waiting to be offloaded.
    I found your wife's van! It is, perhaps, too understated, but that is offset by the incredibly low price tag....

    Classy RHD
    🤮

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    2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha
    2011 BMW 328i Jet Black over Tan

  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 2,149

    @qbrozen said:

    @xwesx said:
    I found your wife's van! It is, perhaps, too understated, but that is offset by the incredibly low price tag....

    Classy RHD

    That is pretty fantastic. But $45k for a 1990? Oh hell no.

    The man knows what he has… :)

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,759
    Nice wheels. But 5,000 miles in 30 years? Not buying that!

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD , 2022 Ford Maverick Lariat Ecoboost FWD.

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 8,290
    Le sigh. BMW needs a bunch of little, but important, safety stuff done (took in for oil change, coolant flush, and brake fluid flush). My wife is irritated and again suggested it needed to go.
    2021 Tesla Model 3 SR+, 2021 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sahara 4xE, 2004 BMW 330i ZHP 6MT
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 199,231
    stickguy said:

    Didn’t you just buy her a Tesla? Some gratitude there.

    3 cars for 2 drivers = extra money needing to be budgeted for maintenance / insurance / registration.

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 8,290
    stickguy said:

    Didn’t you just buy her a Tesla? Some gratitude there.

    Surely you jest.
    Michaell said:

    stickguy said:

    Didn’t you just buy her a Tesla? Some gratitude there.

    3 cars for 2 drivers = extra money needing to be budgeted for maintenance / insurance / registration.
    Yes. She knows logically. But it isn't something she appreciates or likes.
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  • au1994au1994 GAMember Posts: 2,592

    stickguy said:

    Didn’t you just buy her a Tesla? Some gratitude there.

    Surely you jest.
    Michaell said:

    stickguy said:

    Didn’t you just buy her a Tesla? Some gratitude there.

    3 cars for 2 drivers = extra money needing to be budgeted for maintenance / insurance / registration.
    Yes. She knows logically. But it isn't something she appreciates or likes.
    What kind of needs are we talking about?

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 8,290
    PS return hose is leaking - I can probably defer this to the spring.

    Front and rear brake hoses are cracked and leaking.

    Hood struts are blown (I already knew that).
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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 8,290
    I consider it an investment in the car and it really doesn't bug me. It's 17 years old, of course it needs stuff.

    My wife does not see it the same way.
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,759
    Michaell said:

    stickguy said:

    Didn’t you just buy her a Tesla? Some gratitude there.

    3 cars for 2 drivers = extra money needing to be budgeted for maintenance / insurance / registration.
    and? I fail to see the problem here?

    Better than having 1 car for 2 people.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD , 2022 Ford Maverick Lariat Ecoboost FWD.

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 8,290
    stickguy said:

    I consider it an investment in the car and it really doesn't bug me. It's 17 years old, of course it needs stuff.

    My wife does not see it the same way.

    Use my solution.

    Don't tell her what she doesn't need to know.
    The last time I took that approach I found a receipt for a deposit with Closets by Design...
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  • sdasda Indian Land, SCMember Posts: 5,178

    PS return hose is leaking - I can probably defer this to the spring.

    Front and rear brake hoses are cracked and leaking.

    Hood struts are blown (I already knew that).

    You can probably buy the hood struts inexpensively on eBay or Rock Auto. I replaced them on the TL about 2.5 years ago and they are still fine. I watched a quick tutorial on U tube. Easy repair, took less than 10 min.

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  • au1994au1994 GAMember Posts: 2,592
    edited October 2021

    PS return hose is leaking - I can probably defer this to the spring.

    Front and rear brake hoses are cracked and leaking.

    Hood struts are blown (I already knew that).

    2 of the 3 look like a DIY with some help from YouTube and maybe an extra set of hands. Wouldn’t jack around with the brake hoses but if you do it now it will be fine for another 17 years.

    I too took pride in doing things like this and other deferred maintenance on my ZHP. Admittedly when it became my DD it wasn’t as amusing.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,759
    order the parts from FCP Euro, and at least replace the easy ones. I agree, don't mess with brake lines.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,759
    so, had some fun today before the latest terrible Nor'easter weather rolled in.

    stopped at a local dealer to do a fellow poster a solid, and looked at a 2012 BMW 328i convertible for rny421. Found it parked in the front row, so easy to look at. Was interesting to drive one (I have not driven a 6 cylinder NA BMW in ages, or a manual trans one). Quite the trip back in time (as was the very old school dash and tech). Fun car, but just one that gave off a hard life vibe (this was not your rich guy, spoiled garage queen, unit from what I could tell).

    while I was there I asked about the new BRZ . Seems they have a couple allocated so I could order on if I really wanted to. Scheduled to build in December (hopefully) so maybe get it in January/February? Great time to have a car arrive running on summer performance tires (at least the limited has those). So I got a brochure and moved on.

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 8,290
    Correct - I'm not messing with the brake lines - someone else can do that.

    Going to defer the PS stuff until spring and then look into it myself. Hood struts I'll let them do because its just parts cost basically - labor is next to nothing and I don't feel like dealing with it.
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  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaMember Posts: 15,550
    stickguy said:

    order the parts from FCP Euro, and at least replace the easy ones. I agree, don't mess with brake lines.

    I disagree. Mess with the brake hoses! It's no big deal to bleed the system when you're done.

    That said, I don't think this is about $ for your wife; she's just looking for another excuse to strengthen her argument. ;)
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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 203,016
    Even OEM hood struts aren't that bad... Under $100 for two.

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 8,290
    Also for those suggesting DIY, I recently took on an expanded role at work - which has been great but lots more hours and random meetings. At least in the short term, I'm prioritizing my time with the family and on stuff around the house. So, I'm going to rely a bit more heavily on my indy for now for the ZHP.
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