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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 8,260
    /Shrug.
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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,363
    So maybe WON'T get the mach-e tomorrow. I got to the bank before 5 but Karen was in front of me and making sure everyone paid attention to her problem. So I waited 45 mins before the manager offered to help me. I missed the deadline to get a wire transfer in during the arbitrary business hours, hence it won't actually get to them until Monday. I emailed the rep a pic of the receipt and asked if they'd still allow me to come get it. No response yet.

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  • corvettecorvette United StatesMember Posts: 9,020
    kyfdx said:

    Porsche interiors: Whatever color the seats are, is carried through on carpets and dash. While tan, red, etc, look great on the seats, not so much when it's on everything. It doesn't wear well, especially on the carpets (pink, eventually on red interiors).

    I thought they used to be more flexible, especially on custom orders. "Want only the speedometer gauge lined in leather? Sure, that will be $495."
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaMember Posts: 15,529
    This stage of waiting is always the hardest part.

    I do have a funny feeling that it's going to work out nicely for you, though. GLWTB! (reference to the auctions you're frequenting of late)
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  • corvettecorvette United StatesMember Posts: 9,020
    kyfdx said:

    We drove to South Bend in early October.

    Did you stop at the Studebaker Museum there? That's on my list.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTMember Posts: 16,730
    Studebaker Museum is pretty good, They have a vehicle display rotation, so it changes depending on when you visit.
    I want to get to the Auburn/Cord/Duesenberg museum. Should be easier after we move to Ohio.
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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 198,710
    Wife isn’t much into flying, anymore. Would prefer to drive, where we can control when and where to stop.

    Santa Fe is roughly 6 hours, and Sedona is a two (short) day drive. CA is 17+, but it’s been years since we’ve done that.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,620
    When I drive I like to do it in one day. I just don't like having to make a hotel stop in the middle. Not sure what my tolerance is now for one day. I would guess maybe 10 hours? 12 would really be pushing it.

    My wife will drive if I ask her to, but that makes me more nervous than just driving, so I only do that if I am worried about staying awake. But considering she can fall asleep any place, any time, that would keep me wide awake!

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,363
    edited December 2021

    I don’t have a problem with driving. Makes a lot of sense with a family as opposed to flying. And, heck, now with the cost of rentals being what they are, you can save a bundle bringing your own vehicle. But, ya know, then you might blow a radiator on the way home. Whoops.

    We all still talk about our 2 weeks driving all over the western US as our best trip to date. So there is something to be said for showing the kids the sights across 4 states in relatively slow motion.

    '21 Mach-e Select AWD, '21 Wrangler 4xE, '07 ML63, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '14 Town&Country Limited, '10 Escape XLT v6, '21 WRX. 58(?)-car history and counting!

  • corvettecorvette United StatesMember Posts: 9,020

    I want to get to the Auburn/Cord/Duesenberg museum.

    That's also on my list. Possibly on the same trip. I'm thinking it would be a fairly short road trip from here to do those and also stop in Chicago, which is my favorite large city.
  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 15,438

    @mjfloyd1 said:

    @roadburner said:

    @mjfloyd1 said:
    That 4 series seems pretty pricy for a 2018 with 47K miles but at least it is CPO


    It has most every option including the Track Handling Package which you rarely see on a GC.

    Wonder why they didn’t get a manual with all those packages?

    A manual was not an option on the GC.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTMember Posts: 15,126

    @au1994 said:
    @nyccarguy what ever happened with the 4xe? Was it damaged in transit? Sorry, I don’t follow the other thread if it was posted there.

    No worries. I stopped following the other thread a long time ago. I actually just got an update from my broker this evening. So there were approximately 5 vehicles that were damaged while in the holding lot. Mine was one of them. The damage it sustained wasn’t that bad, but bad enough that it needs to be fixed. “Bumpers & part of the body”. “No other details were provided beyond that.” It will be repaired and is considered “factory damage.” And won’t show up on the carfax. He’s hoping I can take delivery (if I still want it) sometime in January.

    He suggested I take this one, order a ‘22, & then flip the ‘21 when the ‘22 comes in.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 19,297
    nyccarguy said:

    @au1994 said:
    @nyccarguy what ever happened with the 4xe? Was it damaged in transit? Sorry, I don’t follow the other thread if it was posted there.

    No worries. I stopped following the other thread a long time ago. I actually just got an update from my broker this evening. So there were approximately 5 vehicles that were damaged while in the holding lot. Mine was one of them. The damage it sustained wasn’t that bad, but bad enough that it needs to be fixed. “Bumpers & part of the body”. “No other details were provided beyond that.” It will be repaired and is considered “factory damage.” And won’t show up on the carfax. He’s hoping I can take delivery (if I still want it) sometime in January.

    He suggested I take this one, order a ‘22, & then flip the ‘21 when the ‘22 comes in.


    What did I miss? How did it get damaged?

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 54,431

    That’s interesting. We’re the hidden headlights and 2.0L motor dealer installed or someone’s custom touch?
    Headlights were 87-89 IIRC, I am sure the engine is stock too.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,620
    I loved chicago. was supposed to go with the wife and some friends last year. Obviously never happened.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,620
    My understanding is cars get damaged in transit all the time. just they get fixed before you ever hear about it.

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  • corvettecorvette United StatesMember Posts: 9,020
    The Tundra I leased got damaged as they were taking it out to be detailed. They switched me into a slightly better equipped one for the same price. Thankfully, my insurance agent was still open to give them an updated proof of insurance (they were extremely picky about that), otherwise, I would have probably have had to hang around the Philadelphia area over the weekend and take an additional day or two off work.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTMember Posts: 15,126

    @oldfarmer50 said:
    What did I miss? How did it get damaged?

    Don’t know exactly how the damage happened. Obviously something considering 5 vehicles in total were damaged in some form or another. X

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2017 Pilot Touring AWD, 2019 Tacoma TRD Sport 4WD

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,620
    somebody came and cut the cats off?

    I remember when we got our Odyssey, the new style had just come out and they were still pretty rare. Our local dealer I was getting it from got ours in and we happened to be there the day it arrived. It had some big scratches on the front fender or door. Definitely noticeable, but it had not been prepped yet. By the time we picked it up a couple of days later, I couldn't even tell where they were, and if I had not happened to see it before it was done, never would have known (since it was nothing they had to disclose).

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,620
    edited December 2021
    just browsing local place. Used prices are just still nuts (I assume people are paying these prices?).

    this one looks nice enough. Low miles. But, 2 full years in service (which on a Hyundai means 3 years BtoB warranty left, no powertrain 6-10 any longer). Listed at $27,995. Carfax includes original sticker showing MSRP in 2019 was $26,405. And this was not a car that sold at, or close to, sticker. If the market finally opens up next year some people are going to see some steep ST depreciation.

    even odder, you can probably get a brand new one for $1,500 over MSRP. or close to that.

    https://www.autolenders.com/used-car-inventory/Hyundai-Sonata-KH811209

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,620
    this one is even worse. Almost new, but this car, even adding on some accessories, still stickers at just a tick under $30K.

    short miles, and only lose 6 months warranty, but still $5K over sticker. I know dealer supply is short, but are they selling for that much new at this point?

    https://www.autolenders.com/used-car-inventory/Subaru-Crosstrek-MH326719

    Man, getting any Maverick for $1,800 below sticker, no add-ons, seems like a no brainer, whether I want it or not. Can use it to drive around to other dealers seeing if I find something else to get instead, and trade it in for more than I paid for it!

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD , 2022 Ford Maverick Lariat Ecoboost FWD.

  • corvettecorvette United StatesMember Posts: 9,020

    @stickguy - exactly. My neighbor who bought a used 2020 Camry SE for $25k found a sales order in the glove compartment. The previous owner bought it from Enterprise for $19k about a year ago.

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 19,297
    corvette said:

    @stickguy - exactly. My neighbor who bought a used 2020 Camry SE for $25k found a sales order in the glove compartment. The previous owner bought it from Enterprise for $19k about a year ago.

    He’s lucky it was still on the car lot. Enterprise has been buying every used car they can find lately for full asking price. They bought 200k cars from Hertz in 2020 and promptly sold them off for a big profit. Now, we’re buying used cars back from the same dealers.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,620
    I forgot to check year or ask my daughter how many miles on her rental (From Budget) Camry SE. But she did say the "service due" light is on. Budget does not seem all that interested in it.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD , 2022 Ford Maverick Lariat Ecoboost FWD.

  • coldinohiocoldinohio Member Posts: 165
    ACD museum is really nice but some nice cars-- a lot more cars in back when I went in 2014; not too big; nice Art Deco building

    Studebaker Museum is pretty good, They have a vehicle display rotation, so it changes depending on when you visit.
    I want to get to the Auburn/Cord/Duesenberg museum. Should be easier after we move to Ohio.

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 202,724
    corvette said:

    kyfdx said:

    Porsche interiors: Whatever color the seats are, is carried through on carpets and dash. While tan, red, etc, look great on the seats, not so much when it's on everything. It doesn't wear well, especially on the carpets (pink, eventually on red interiors).

    I thought they used to be more flexible, especially on custom orders. "Want only the speedometer gauge lined in leather? Sure, that will be $495."
    Possibly, but I never see Caymans that way. Almost everyone has the monochromatic interior, including carpets and dash.

    But, it's entertaining to "build" a Porsche on the website. Pretty easy to add $30K of options on a $65K base vehicle.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 202,724
    corvette said:

    kyfdx said:

    We drove to South Bend in early October.

    Did you stop at the Studebaker Museum there? That's on my list.
    Nope. We went up for a football game. No time for that, unfortunately. :(

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 202,724
    stickguy said:

    When I drive I like to do it in one day. I just don't like having to make a hotel stop in the middle. Not sure what my tolerance is now for one day. I would guess maybe 10 hours? 12 would really be pushing it.

    My wife will drive if I ask her to, but that makes me more nervous than just driving, so I only do that if I am worried about staying awake. But considering she can fall asleep any place, any time, that would keep me wide awake!

    We made a nearly annual trip to Hilton Head, each summer, when we had a child at home. That's just over 600 miles and about 10 hours. (depending on time of day and stops). That is definitely my wife's limit. Even then, she would rather leave the night before, and stay somewhere, part of the way down. I always wanted to drive straight through.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,620
    I have not watched this yet, but RB might find it interesting, considering the options he is looking at.

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  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 2,120
    edited December 2021

    @roadburner said:

    @mjfloyd1 said:

    @roadburner said:

    @mjfloyd1 said:
    That 4 series seems pretty pricy for a 2018 with 47K miles but at least it is CPO


    It has most every option including the Track Handling Package which you rarely see on a GC.

    Wonder why they didn’t get a manual with all those packages?

    A manual was not an option on the GC.

    That would certainly explain it then🤣

    I’d hold out for a ///M2 comp

    I just watched the m240 x drive vs M2 non comp, hmmmm, maybe I’m wrong

  • rayainswrayainsw Member Posts: 3,153
    My now annual drive to Maine - for the summer season
    is 2 consecutive days of about 600 miles.
    Around 11 hours each day.
    - Ray
    Thanks to my brother for an overnight stop in the middle!
    2020 BMW M340i
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 202,724
    rayainsw said:

    My now annual drive to Maine - for the summer season
    is 2 consecutive days of about 600 miles.
    Around 11 hours each day.
    - Ray
    Thanks to my brother for an overnight stop in the middle!

    Naturally, we were out for our last day in ME, before I remembered your offer to meet up. Sorry, I missed that. :(

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  • rayainswrayainsw Member Posts: 3,153
    "your offer to meet up. Sorry"
    Next year.
    Cheers,
    - Ray
    Planning to be there every year...
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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 3,818

    @explorerx4 said:
    @corvette,
    Last time we were in Chicago, we went to a wedding here.

    Who’s bright idea was it to have a wedding outdoors when you need a top coat?

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis just like jmonroe, '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTMember Posts: 16,730
    edited December 2021
    @jmonroe,
    The ceremony was outside but the reception was indoors.
    We couldn't hear much of the ceremony because a helicopter kept flying by. :@
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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 3,818

    @explorerx4 said:
    @jmonroe,
    The ceremony was outside but the reception was indoors.

    Why do a wedding half way? That’s almost like being half pregnant. I’m a firm believer in doing things all the way or not at all.

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis just like jmonroe, '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 15,438
    mjfloyd1 said:

    @roadburner said:

    @mjfloyd1 said:

    @roadburner said:

    @mjfloyd1 said:

    That 4 series seems pretty pricy for a 2018 with 47K miles but at least it is CPO



    It has most every option including the Track Handling Package which you rarely see on a GC.

    Wonder why they didn’t get a manual with all those packages?

    A manual was not an option on the GC.

    That would certainly explain it then🤣

    I’d hold out for a ///M2 comp

    I just watched the m240 x drive vs M2 non comp, hmmmm, maybe I’m wrong


    The 2016-2018 M2 is just too close to my M235i in appearance and performance- so I'd probably lean towards a RWD G42 M240i. But I could be easily talked into a 2018 M2 stick over an xDrive G42.

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  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 13,042

    People really are crazy right now.

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  • corvettecorvette United StatesMember Posts: 9,020
    That's nuts. Granted, the Escalade Platinum or whatever the highest trim level is has an MSRP north of 100k, if memory serves. Is that a CarMax auction, or do they just use the same colors?
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTMember Posts: 15,126

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 3,818

    @tjc78 said:
    People really are crazy right now.

    Talk about crazy, Son #1’s 2016 Kia van is acting up with 110,000 miles on it and he’s not sure if Kia will do any “good will fix” on it so he went to test drive a new Telluride today at a local Kia dealer even though they didn’t have exactly what he wanted. The dealer will sell at MSRP but ONLY if you have a good trade-in otherwise you won’t get MSRP. If you’re doing a cash deal they’ll have to come up with an ADM on it based on market conditions. He didn’t even ask about what that would be because he flat out won’t pay it. Just yesterday he talk to a Kia dealer in the Philly area who had exactly what he wanted color and all. That guy had an 18 grand ADM on it. To me that’s more than crazy but maybe not today.

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis just like jmonroe, '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • sdasda Indian Land, SCMember Posts: 5,157
    Has it been determined what is wrong with your son’s van? It may be prudent to fix it rather than getting painted into a corner by paying an outrageous amount for another vehicle.

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  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Forest Lakes, AZMember Posts: 5,211
    Too much money chasing too few things. Imagine.
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,620
    mechanics must be even more backed up than normal, with even more people doing that. Though in the long run, probably good for a lot of people that should be more prudent and keep cars longer.

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 3,818

    @sda said:
    Has it been determined what is wrong with your son’s van? It may be prudent to fix it rather than getting painted into a corner by paying an outrageous amount for another vehicle.

    It’s the engine and his mechanic doesn’t think it’s worth fixing. That’s why he’s going to see if Kia will do any “good will” repair or some part of it but he’s not holding out much hope of that happening.

    Until this happened, other than a bad motor for the right side sliding door the van has been perfect.

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis just like jmonroe, '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 19,297

    @jmonroe,
    The ceremony was outside but the reception was indoors.
    We couldn't hear much of the ceremony because a helicopter kept flying by. :@

    What were you up to that deserved surveillance by the government?

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2004 Chevy Van, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTMember Posts: 16,730
    At one point, a drone was flying overhead, although it was getting dark.
    I happened to notice it and pointed out to some other people who turned to look at it.
    It then took off out of sight.
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  • corvettecorvette United StatesMember Posts: 9,020
    jmonroe1 said:

    It’s the engine and his mechanic doesn’t think it’s worth fixing.

    The mechanic's idea of used/new car values may be stuck in 2020. What's the cost of a junkyard engine installed?
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