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  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 2,120

    The Mach e is almost 10.5 inches longer than the Corolla cross

  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Coral Springs, FLMember Posts: 6,100
    About 185" I'm guessing. Cross another vehicle off the list!

    2015 Audi A3 (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2)

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTMember Posts: 16,731
    @qbrozen,
    I see from the sticker it has an 8 way power driver seat.
    Try putting you finger on the front half of the control and push up.
    Usually, that lifts the front of the seat.
    2020 Ford Explorer XLT
  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 13,042

    Cool car Q. Enjoy it!

    2020 Volvo XC90 T6 Momentum / 2019 Volvo S60 T6 Inscription

  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaMember Posts: 16,187
    qbrozen said:

    But, the salesperson informed me I should rely on the voice commands for easiest interface. That helped on the way home. It is very responsive. The navigation is very nice. Gives more voice command details than I've seen/heard before.

    If that was me, it would have been good for big laffs given how voice command for anything never seems to work for me.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,621

    tjc78 said:

    I agree… I think there is a large potential in the marketplace for smaller pickups.

    I think it will cut into sales of similarly sized SUVs.

    In all reality something like the Maverick would be perfect for my family’s lifestyle. It would be nice to throw the beach stuff in the bed rather than getting sand in the back of the SUV every weekend.

    I’m just not ready to give up a sedan as my primary driver!

    Has anybody done a comparison on the size of the Maverick vs. the pre 2011 Ranger? One of the criticisms of the old Ranger platform was that it was too small compared to it’s contemporaries. Strange how that might be a positive thing today.
    I saw a few things online. I actually got curious this morning and looked up the numbers. Compared to a 2010 extended cab, they are within a couple of inches in length of each other (I think the Ranger is slightly longer in that configuration). Maverick is about 3" wider (69 vs. 72) and is a couple of inches taller. But pretty much the same size. Biggest difference of course is a 4 door cab and 4.5' bed, vs. jump seats and a 6' bed.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD , 2022 Ford Maverick Lariat Ecoboost FWD.

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTMember Posts: 15,126

    Nice ride @qbrozen ! Congrats!

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2017 Pilot Touring AWD, 2019 Tacoma TRD Sport 4WD

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,621
    nice looking QB. I should try an EV like that someday. They do sound like they drive nice, just different.

    Enjoy it for the 3-4 weeks you own it!

    I have been to that Ford deal. I bought my Nissan PU from the Nissan store over there.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD , 2022 Ford Maverick Lariat Ecoboost FWD.

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,363

    New. Wanted the $7500 credit.

    '21 Mach-e Select AWD, '21 Wrangler 4xE, '07 ML63, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '14 Town&Country Limited, '10 Escape XLT v6, '21 WRX. 58(?)-car history and counting!

  • corvettecorvette United StatesMember Posts: 9,020
    My Battery Tender stayed red for a whole day when I plugged it into my Prius' 12V feed. I thought the Battery Tender was toast (three replacements so far under its 10 year warranty), but it now appears that it was either a loose connection or the 12V battery was just really low. It was charged up to 12.9V the last time I checked.
  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 3,819

    @corvette said:
    Nice Mach-E, @qbrozen ! May it serve you faithfully for many years.

    Under normal circumstances I’d say the same thing but I doubt it lasts until Memorial Day. Hell, might not even make it to Valentines Day.

    Just the same good luck with it @qbrozen and may it be one of your better flips. Maybe even the best one.

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis just like jmonroe, '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaMember Posts: 15,529
    qbrozen said:

    Salesman informed me all the cars I thought were new were used. Wow.

    Anyway, drove her home. In short, I am THOROUGHLY impressed. Such a sweet ride. The first time I stomped it from a roll, I think I peed a little. It took me by surprise. And it feels quite luxurious, to boot. The little touches are cool, such as the wireless charging, pop-open doors, and the Mustang projection on the ground. Oh, and the proximity key actually WORKS. Not like chrysler where you have to touch the door handle, it lights up as you approach and locks itself when you leave.

    Weird oversight, though, is lack of seat cushion tilt. I know they had to save SOME things for higher trims, but how about the 4-way power lumbar? Seems silly to give me that but not a basic tilt.

    PRNDL That's classic Ford for you! Hahah

    Congrats on the new investment. ;)
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,363

    @xwesx said:
    PRNDL That's classic Ford for you! Hahah

    Congrats on the new investment. ;)

    My sons looks in and says “oh, a ‘prindle’ dial. How cute.” Hahaha.

    Tell you what, though, he lost his mind at the horse light on the ground. Lol.

    '21 Mach-e Select AWD, '21 Wrangler 4xE, '07 ML63, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '14 Town&Country Limited, '10 Escape XLT v6, '21 WRX. 58(?)-car history and counting!

  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 3,819

    @qbrozen said:

    @xwesx said:
    PRNDL That's classic Ford for you! Hahah

    Congrats on the new investment. ;)

    My sons looks in and says “oh, a ‘prindle’ dial. How cute.” Hahaha.

    Tell you what, though, he lost his mind at the horse light on the ground. Lol.

    That sounds like my youngest grandson (now 15) when I got my ‘15 Genny. Couldn’t get over the Genny logo projected on the ground from the bottom of the side mirrors. In fact, he still likes them. Everybody needs two of those.

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis just like jmonroe, '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 3,900
    Congrats Q.
    Visiting my future retirement home, Mohegan Sun Casino. A first, all 4 charging stations in use. And, when I checked back a few hours later, no one had moved. I'm out of electricity, but got plenty of long gone dinosaurs to get me home.
    Maybe they'll open tomorrow.

    A fond, but bittersweet adieu to my '13 Jaguar XF. And so, I present this laurel, and hearty handshake to the new boss; '21 Audi A7 PHEV. '09 Jag XK , '05 Acura TL, '88 Acura Integra, '84 Mitsubishi Mirage Turbo & '78 VW Scirocco ; all special to me. And, of course, the '92 Nissan Sentra SE-R and '95 Saab 900s I bought for the ex... I've yet to buy a car I didn't like. Although, do I really want to drive a car that would have someone such as me as its owner?

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTMember Posts: 16,731
    @qbrozen,
    Your seat looks like below. Just push up where the arrow is in the pic to raise the front of the cushion.

    2020 Ford Explorer XLT
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 8,260

    Which trim/options did you get, Q?

    2021 Tesla Model 3 SR+, 2021 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sahara 4xE, 2004 BMW 330i ZHP 6MT
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 19,297

    @oldfarmer50,
    Too small in what way?

    By the mid 2000s most of the Ranger’s competitors had grown in size and reviewers used that size difference to criticize Ranger’s “old” design. I just thought it odd that now reviewers are hailing the new Maverick for the same thing they slammed the old Ranger for.

    Personally, I find the size of the pre 2011 Ranger to be perfect for a compact truck. If a coworker ever gets around to selling his I’d like to pick one up.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2004 Chevy Van, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 19,297

    I like that Mustang! Very cool!! How long are they...just wonder if it could fit on my side of our garage? We're just not Ford people, but for something this cool, think I could try to live with one. Have a feeling though that the price will be just north of $50K or so. I'm still having an issue wrapping my mind about spending $30K on something right now! Finally got used to the $20K price point and then I hear talk about $30K, what happened to $25K? Whatever, just super glad that we're both not in the market at this point.ave checked the local guys Corolla Cross inventory and still none have come in with the JBL audio package, a must have if I do get one. Would give up the moon roof if necessary but wouldn't be happy as this is the time of year I use it especially in the cooler mornings and evenings. The JBL is non-negotiable as far as I'm concerned!

    The one’s I’ve seen in person look to be similar in size to a Nissan Rogue, maybe a little bigger.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2004 Chevy Van, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 19,297
    jmonroe1 said:

    @corvette said:

    Nice Mach-E, @qbrozen ! May it serve you faithfully for many years.

    Under normal circumstances I’d say the same thing but I doubt it lasts until Memorial Day. Hell, might not even make it to Valentines Day.

    Just the same good luck with it @qbrozen and may it be one of your better flips. Maybe even the best one.

    jmonroe


    You know, with the number of new car flips he does, a YouTube channel seems in order. He’d have more content than JR, Sarah and Weird Beard combined and wouldn’t have to wrench on any of them. :p

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2004 Chevy Van, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,363

    @explorerx4 said:
    @qbrozen,
    Your seat looks like below. Just push up where the arrow is in the pic to raise the front of the cushion.

    That is what it LOOKS like, but not how it functions. The cushion switch is only up and down, not tilt.

    '21 Mach-e Select AWD, '21 Wrangler 4xE, '07 ML63, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '14 Town&Country Limited, '10 Escape XLT v6, '21 WRX. 58(?)-car history and counting!

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,363

    @28firefighter said:
    Which trim/options did you get, Q?

    Select AWD. Nothing extra other than paint. $47295 sticker + $369 doc + $395 dmv = $48,059 OTD. Will get $7500 back from feds. Current auction value $50k.

    '21 Mach-e Select AWD, '21 Wrangler 4xE, '07 ML63, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '14 Town&Country Limited, '10 Escape XLT v6, '21 WRX. 58(?)-car history and counting!

  • mrwhipple311mrwhipple311 Central OhioMember Posts: 44
    stickguy said:

    I think the mostly sold higher lever passports anyway, and likely all they can make. It didn’t seem like something people wanted stripper work versions of.

    Maverick, at sticker is a screaming bargain to start with, with versions to cover many needs. And reviews so far very positive. Also helps to basically have a market slice to itself (I don’t really see the Santa Cruz as a real competitor for sales).

    My guess is next year or 2, other brands will introduce models though. Rebirth of the relatively compact truck market!

    And makers cutting out trim lines, not surprised to see that now.

    Having cross-shopped the Maverick and Santa Cruz I definitely agree that they are dissimilar. The Santa Cruz is a much nicer place to be than the Maverick, the Maverick is much more utilitarian (full disclosure only had experience with an XL) and feels like a truck. End of the day its all personal taste.
  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 13,042
    edited December 2021

    @qbrozen said:

    @28firefighter said:
    Which trim/options did you get, Q?

    Select AWD. Nothing extra other than paint. $47295 sticker + $369 doc + $395 dmv = $48,059 OTD. Will get $7500 back from feds. Current auction value $50k.

    If you lease, can you use the $7500 as CCR or is it only when doing your taxes?

    2020 Volvo XC90 T6 Momentum / 2019 Volvo S60 T6 Inscription

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 202,726
    tjc78 said:

    @qbrozen said:

    @28firefighter said:

    Which trim/options did you get, Q?

    Select AWD. Nothing extra other than paint. $47295 sticker + $369 doc + $395 dmv = $48,059 OTD. Will get $7500 back from feds. Current auction value $50k.

    If you lease, can you use the $7500 as CCR or is it only when doing your taxes?


    I don't think Ford Credit offers any sort of rebate on a lease. They keep it.

    As @qbrozen noted earlier: No sales tax on EVs in NJ?

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,621
    That’s a big savings on a purchase if true. I assume that also eliminates the trade in credit. If not, great loophole!

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD , 2022 Ford Maverick Lariat Ecoboost FWD.

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,363
    tjc78 said:


    If you lease, can you use the $7500 as CCR or is it only when doing your taxes?

    As ky said, no credit on a lease from Ford.

    '21 Mach-e Select AWD, '21 Wrangler 4xE, '07 ML63, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '14 Town&Country Limited, '10 Escape XLT v6, '21 WRX. 58(?)-car history and counting!

  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 13,042

    Thanks guys. Makes the lease fairly unattractive I’m sure.

    2020 Volvo XC90 T6 Momentum / 2019 Volvo S60 T6 Inscription

  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,004

    Congrats Q! We really liked the Mach E and still could see getting one. At the time, we liked the look and feel of the Polestar a bit better and chose that route.

    The only negative I noticed during the test drives was the brakes were very grabby at first, not that you have to use them often with the regen braking.

    2021 Polestar 2 - 2022 M340i - 2021 Volvo XC90

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTMember Posts: 16,731
    @qbrozen,
    I checked the sticker for my Explorer and it has 8 way power passenger seat.
    It works like you said, Highest bottom cushion front tilt is at the lowest position.
    If you raise it, the rear seems to come up faster than the front, so it flattens out.
    2020 Ford Explorer XLT
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,621
    edited December 2021
    Maverick does that too. ford adopted the chintzy system I don’t care for. I like more front tilt. They basically motorized the ratchet lever adjuster.

    I think they cheat and count headrest going up and down because it’s really 6 way power (+lumbar)

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD , 2022 Ford Maverick Lariat Ecoboost FWD.

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,363
    breld said:

    Congrats Q! We really liked the Mach E and still could see getting one. At the time, we liked the look and feel of the Polestar a bit better and chose that route.

    The only negative I noticed during the test drives was the brakes were very grabby at first, not that you have to use them often with the regen braking.

    Yes, they are!

    I would have liked to look at Polestar, but the market data isn't there yet to make a profit judgement call. The only model on Manheim is the '21 Launch Edition, which is about $60k.

    '21 Mach-e Select AWD, '21 Wrangler 4xE, '07 ML63, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '14 Town&Country Limited, '10 Escape XLT v6, '21 WRX. 58(?)-car history and counting!

  • sdasda Indian Land, SCMember Posts: 5,157

    @qbrozen,
    I checked the sticker for my Explorer and it has 8 way power passenger seat.
    It works like you said, Highest bottom cushion front tilt is at the lowest position.
    If you raise it, the rear seems to come up faster than the front, so it flattens out.

    The Accord and Passat do the same. I want to raise the rear of the seat and the front a bit as well. No can do. I find it hard to find that 'sweet spot' where I am totally comfortable and hate when someone else moves the seat as it does not have a memory setting.

    2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech, 2006 Acura TL w/nav

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 8,260
    Congrats, @qbrozen. I'd have to get something sub $45k MSRP to get the WA sales tax exemption and make a flip worthwhile. Just not there.
    2021 Tesla Model 3 SR+, 2021 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sahara 4xE, 2004 BMW 330i ZHP 6MT
  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 3,819

    @sda said:
    The Accord and Passat do the same. I want to raise the rear of the seat and the front a bit as well. No can do. I find it hard to find that 'sweet spot' where I am totally comfortable and hate when someone else moves the seat as it does not have a memory setting.

    You’ve gotta get rid of those wannabes and get a couple real cars. :s

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis just like jmonroe, '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTMember Posts: 16,731
    @oldfarmer50,
    I compared the dimensions of 2010 Frontier and Ranger. Ranger is 2 inches shorter in length and an inch in height and width.
    2020 Ford Explorer XLT
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,621
    Ranger was not small but a lot of people complained that the BOF design just led to a cramped cab, with a high floor. Not an issue on the Maverick! Very roomy passenger compartment.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD , 2022 Ford Maverick Lariat Ecoboost FWD.

  • sdasda Indian Land, SCMember Posts: 5,157
    jmonroe1 said:

    @sda said:

    The Accord and Passat do the same. I want to raise the rear of the seat and the front a bit as well. No can do. I find it hard to find that 'sweet spot' where I am totally comfortable and hate when someone else moves the seat as it does not have a memory setting.

    You’ve gotta get rid of those wannabes and get a couple real cars. :s

    jmonroe


    I'm the only one with the wannabe, my girls rate higher than me. :smile:

    2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech, 2006 Acura TL w/nav

  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 3,819

    @sda said:
    I'm the only one with the wannabe, my girls rate higher than me. :smile:

    As it should be. Get used to it.

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis just like jmonroe, '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaMember Posts: 15,529
    sda said:


    The Accord and Passat do the same. I want to raise the rear of the seat and the front a bit as well. No can do. I find it hard to find that 'sweet spot' where I am totally comfortable and hate when someone else moves the seat as it does not have a memory setting.

    While I'm the only one in my house that actually follows this guidance, my rule is that I don't change the driver's seat settings in others' primary drivers. If I must, I will adjust the seat back fore or aft just to be reasonably comfortable, but it seems reasonable to me to be a little uncomfortable for a short time in order to avoid the frustration I know the primary driver will feel when they next use the car.

    Now that I have a vehicle (Q7) with memory settings on the seat, I'm sure I would find it extraordinarily annoying if my car didn't have the memory and others messed with my settings. It seems impossible to ever quite find the same position as your body remembers.
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaMember Posts: 15,529

    Congrats, @qbrozen. I'd have to get something sub $45k MSRP to get the WA sales tax exemption and make a flip worthwhile. Just not there.

    Sounds like WA should adjust their threshold a bit. The average price of a new car is over $40K now, so how can they expect electric offerings to reasonably fall below $45K?! The cars that you and @qbrozen just purchased essentially represent base models in the electric market.
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaMember Posts: 15,529
    edited December 2021
    qbrozen said:


    Select AWD. Nothing extra other than paint. $47295 sticker + $369 doc + $395 dmv = $48,059 OTD. Will get $7500 back from feds. Current auction value $50k.

    Wow. If I could come anywhere near taking advantage of the tax credit, I'd be on board with jumping down that rabbit hole.

    Assuming one of you were willing to babysit the car for me for a bit, that is, as I'm not going to fly down there just to ferry it around. And, would certainly not bring it back here. Maybe when the infrastructure along the route improves... a lot....
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 8,260
    I'd complain, but adoption of EVs in WA, at least in western washington is actually quite high. I don't think they've felt like they needed to incentivize it further - at least not yet. I think if they were going to do more, it'd need to be with serious income limits on who can take advantage.
    2021 Tesla Model 3 SR+, 2021 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sahara 4xE, 2004 BMW 330i ZHP 6MT
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 44,621
    xwesx said:

    qbrozen said:


    Select AWD. Nothing extra other than paint. $47295 sticker + $369 doc + $395 dmv = $48,059 OTD. Will get $7500 back from feds. Current auction value $50k.

    Wow. If I could come anywhere near taking advantage of the tax credit, I'd be on board with jumping down that rabbit hole.

    Assuming one of you were willing to babysit the car for me for a bit, that is, as I'm not going to fly down there just to ferry it around. And, would certainly not bring it back here. Maybe when the infrastructure along the route improves... a lot....
    Qi’s dealer is 20 minutes from me. You Buy one, and I’ll happily pick it up and drive it for you until you want to flip it.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD , 2022 Ford Maverick Lariat Ecoboost FWD.

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 30,363
    edited December 2021

    @28firefighter said:
    I'd complain, but adoption of EVs in WA, at least in western washington is actually quite high. I don't think they've felt like they needed to incentivize it further - at least not yet. I think if they were going to do more, it'd need to be with serious income limits on who can take advantage.

    Weird rule. Seems like they should then apply exemption to first $45k regardless of total.

    '21 Mach-e Select AWD, '21 Wrangler 4xE, '07 ML63, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '14 Town&Country Limited, '10 Escape XLT v6, '21 WRX. 58(?)-car history and counting!

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 8,260
    The incentive is actually a $20k max sales tax exemption on a $45k sale price.
    2021 Tesla Model 3 SR+, 2021 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sahara 4xE, 2004 BMW 330i ZHP 6MT
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaMember Posts: 15,529
    stickguy said:


    Qi’s dealer is 20 minutes from me. You Buy one, and I’ll happily pick it up and drive it for you until you want to flip it.

    Like I said... sorely tempted. However, I can only make use of around half the credit, so that really cuts into the margin on it.
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250
  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 2,120

    Congratulations @qbrozen on the #notamustang Mach e.

    Enjoy it for these next few weeks :)

  • corvettecorvette United StatesMember Posts: 9,020

    I’m guessing the Toyota app runs on AWS, because it’s been unable to connect to my truck for hours now. Thankfully, I was able to remote start it from inside the building using the remote.

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