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  • qbrozenqbrozen incurable addictMember Posts: 31,594
    edited June 16
    tjc78 said:

    “ I figure, worst case, that will be our Myrtle Beach golf cart”

    Please don’t say golf cart. Wife is hot on one for the shore. I’m trying to hold out this year. Of course the neighbor just got a beautiful new red on black six seat Icon…. Not helping the cause at all

    Want a Daihatsu? ;)
    Other good choice is a Honda ACTY van. Don't think those can be had in AWD, though.

    '94 Pajero 2.8TD, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '21 WRX, '20 S90 T6, '92 Nissan Gloria 3.0; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel. 65-car history and counting! '97 Suzuki R Wagon, '97 Alto Works, and '97 Pajero Mini on the way; Wagoneer L on order; and in queue for Lucid Air Pure, Blazer EV, and Fisker Ocean.

  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 14,356

    @qbrozen said:
    Want a Daihatsu? ;)
    Other good choice is a Honda ACTY van. Don't think those can be had in AWD, though.

    OMG she would file for divorce😆

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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 211,942
    edited June 16

    I just watched a Ben Hardy review of the R1T, He said resale prices were around 120k on the low end.

    That's not what they are selling for on Cars & Bids - most of the auctions end between $105K and $115K, lately.

    Where is he getting those numbers from, and is he willing to spend $120K on the one @jpp75 has?

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 16,148

    nyccarguy said:

    Just built an Integra A-Spec 6MT on the Acura website and it comes out to $37,395 including destination. I then priced out a WRX Premium for $34,975. Styling aside, the WRX has got to slaughter the Integra in every single performance metric.

    True. But, material quality, NVH, build quality are all worlds better in the Integra. In fairness, it’s probably been 3 years since I’ve been in a WRX, and the updates since then may have addressed those shortcomings. Perhaps my posterior is getting too soft, but the WRX felt crude, and I’m being kind.
    My wife and I liked the 2015 WRX STI I test drove before I bought my 2er, but we both agreed it felt too similar to my Mazdaspeed 3. That's not intended as a knock on the MS3; we just wanted something different.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen incurable addictMember Posts: 31,594
    tjc78 said:



    OMG she would file for divorce😆

    I dunnooo... you could be a hero. "Hun, would you rather shuttle around in air-conditioned comfort protected from the rain or be like all the other geriatric losers?"




    '94 Pajero 2.8TD, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '21 WRX, '20 S90 T6, '92 Nissan Gloria 3.0; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel. 65-car history and counting! '97 Suzuki R Wagon, '97 Alto Works, and '97 Pajero Mini on the way; Wagoneer L on order; and in queue for Lucid Air Pure, Blazer EV, and Fisker Ocean.

  • explorerx4explorerx4 North Central OHMember Posts: 17,901
    @michaell,
    Cars and Bids is not the be all end all.
    Maybe it's just the wrong venue for that vehicle.
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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 211,942

    @michaell,
    Cars and Bids is not the be all end all.
    Maybe it's just the wrong venue for that vehicle.

    What would you consider the right venue?

    Remember, CarMax offered $108k, right in line with the auction results.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 North Central OHMember Posts: 17,901
    @michaell,
    I don't know what the best place to sell an R1T is, but I've seen stories of people who got less than they were expecting.
    I'm sure it happens at other sites, too.
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  • sdasda Indian Land, SCMember Posts: 6,166
    I received two separate notices for the Q5 and Passat on a legal settlement for water pump failure reimbursement and replacement for the 2.0t engine. For us, should replacement be needed it covers only one replacement during the period of 8yr/80k which I think is cheap. Worse yet, if the owner suffered engine damage because of water pump failure and overheating, it only covers a declining percentage of reimbursement based on years and mileage. VW Audi still claims the water pumps are not defective. From what I read this issue was addressed with a revised water pump around 2017, but the settlement includes up to 2021.

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 5,273
    au1994 said:

    nyccarguy said:

    xwesx said:

    ronsteve said:


    Not sure I'd call the 4th gen Outback an "improvement" but it sure did sell.

    That being said, the Outback is probably the most wagon-ish of the crop of SUVs (or crossovers if you insist, but hardly anything is body-on-frame to meet the classic definition of SUV) and I do like the XT. If there were any on the ground locally last month when my trade value was sky-high, I'd probably be driving one right now.

    I completely agree about that! I hated the 4th gen Outback. It lost 99% of its prior character with that generation and was straight up ugly on top of it. However, passenger space was vastly improved, and that was the hook for the majority of buyers. However, the third gen Forester, starting in 2009 MY, was almost all improvement (aside from the loss of a manual with the XT), and it shot Subaru to stardom at a time when all other manufacturers were suffering a significant contraction of sales, restructuring, etc.
    I saw one of those Outback Wilderness Editions last night. Jacked up, skinny tires, lots of cladding... not my cup of tea
    Yeah, its…interesting and I’ll leave it at that.

    Subaru does a lot right for the money. The Forester really seems to hit the bang for the buck very well if the size works for you. I too was disappointed that the Legacy couldn’t get something with more get up and go. Its a nice looking sedan.
    ————————————————-
    I think yours and @nyccarguy’s disappointment with the power of the Legacy is due to the 4 cylinder engine.

    Mrs. j has had 2 Legacies the first one was a 2012 and the one she has now is a 2018. Both the Limited model with the 3.6R 6 cylinder engine. While not a race car that engine has plenty of power. I have never had trouble keeping up with traffic, getting up to speed on interstate ramps or passing in any situation. It doesn’t compare in power to my V8 Genny but for a grocery getter it’s pretty damn good.

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis just like jmonroe, '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 14,356

    @qbrozen said:
    I dunnooo... you could be a hero. "Hun, would you rather shuttle around in air-conditioned comfort protected from the rain or be like all the other geriatric losers?"

    Just for giggles .. I showed that to my wife. The response was not PG!!

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  • au1994au1994 GAMember Posts: 2,944
    jmonroe1 said:

    au1994 said:

    nyccarguy said:

    xwesx said:

    ronsteve said:


    Not sure I'd call the 4th gen Outback an "improvement" but it sure did sell.

    That being said, the Outback is probably the most wagon-ish of the crop of SUVs (or crossovers if you insist, but hardly anything is body-on-frame to meet the classic definition of SUV) and I do like the XT. If there were any on the ground locally last month when my trade value was sky-high, I'd probably be driving one right now.

    I completely agree about that! I hated the 4th gen Outback. It lost 99% of its prior character with that generation and was straight up ugly on top of it. However, passenger space was vastly improved, and that was the hook for the majority of buyers. However, the third gen Forester, starting in 2009 MY, was almost all improvement (aside from the loss of a manual with the XT), and it shot Subaru to stardom at a time when all other manufacturers were suffering a significant contraction of sales, restructuring, etc.
    I saw one of those Outback Wilderness Editions last night. Jacked up, skinny tires, lots of cladding... not my cup of tea
    Yeah, its…interesting and I’ll leave it at that.

    Subaru does a lot right for the money. The Forester really seems to hit the bang for the buck very well if the size works for you. I too was disappointed that the Legacy couldn’t get something with more get up and go. Its a nice looking sedan.
    ————————————————-
    I think yours and @nyccarguy’s disappointment with the power of the Legacy is due to the 4 cylinder engine.

    Mrs. j has had 2 Legacies the first one was a 2012 and the one she has now is a 2018. Both the Limited model with the 3.6R 6 cylinder engine. While not a race car that engine has plenty of power. I have never had trouble keeping up with traffic, getting up to speed on interstate ramps or passing in any situation. It doesn’t compare in power to my V8 Genny but for a grocery getter it’s pretty damn good.

    jmonroe
    It is and by the time I looked at one I don’t think the 3.6 was an option. With that I’d have probably been an owner. For a year at least, we are in CCBA after all :smile:

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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 211,942

    @michaell,
    I don't know what the best place to sell an R1T is, but I've seen stories of people who got less than they were expecting.
    I'm sure it happens at other sites, too.

    @jpp75 and I were discussion the range of final prices on C&B - since all the trucks are exactly the same, save color, we figured the higher bids were for trucks were from people who don't live near a Rivian distribution center.

    If you have a link to some of those stories, I'd be interested in reading them.

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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 211,942

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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 5,273
    Michaell said:
    ————————————————-
    I think I’m one of the older guys in here and I don’t have a clue how to help this guy. Maybe what is needed is a young wippersnaper who knows a thing or two about old Chevy’s. This otta be good.

    jmonroe
    '15 Genesis just like jmonroe, '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 20,817
    henryn said:

    xwesx said:

    Michaell said:


    I would think that the volume of business at the Alaska DMV offices is a fraction of that in Colorado.

    Maybe, but we also have very few offices. Hahaha Our DMV offices are always a zoo.... or were, before they wised up and went exclusively with an appointment process rather than 99% walk-in.
    Going back 20 years, I can remember waiting in line for hours at the tax office to register a newly purchased used vehicle. This was in Harris County, Houston. Then I moved out to the country, Austin County. There were 19,000 people in the entire county, and the tax office was so unbusy the ladies working there would engage you in conversation just to relieve the boredom.

    Now I'm back in Houston, and last year when I had to transfer the title on this used pickup, I dreaded the trip to the tax office. But in actuality, it wasn't nearly as bad as I had expected. The line was fairly short, only took about 30 minutes in and out.

    The state of Texas used to take about 2 months to send you the title, but that's now down to about 1 month, so not too bad. If you purchase from a dealer, it can take 4 to 6 weeks to get the plates, and 2 months or longer to get the actual paper title. But that's actually the fault of the dealer. You get the plates as soon as the file the paperwork at the tax office, so the further delay is because the dealers stall around for weeks before they send someone to the tax office. And even when the dealer has the new plates in hand, they may not notify you immediately.

    I have observed that car dealerships can be very lax about any of their business practices which do not show a direct profit.
    It takes about a month to get an actual paper title in NY regardless of if it is done by the dealer or yourself.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 20,817

    Big fan of Mitsu, family owned a few: Parents had a Gallant, a couple of Diamantes. I had the '85 Mirage Turbo. Always wanted one of the DiamondStar triplets and I almost bought a Starion post-Mirage. But, being an avid skier at the time, FWD practicality ruled and I bought '88 Acura Integra instead.
    Heartbreaking in what Mitsu has become, almost as much as the late, lamented Saab.

    My ‘08 Eclipse was one of the nicest cars I’ve owned. Lots of off the line torque and very smooth engine. No repairs needed over 7 years of ownership. Traded it in for the Mustang.

    These days a Mitsubishi with CVT gets no interest from me.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen incurable addictMember Posts: 31,594

    @28firefighter said:
    My Elantra N should be ready any day now, so I’ve put the G35 up for sale. We shall see.

    Huh. I missed that order

    '94 Pajero 2.8TD, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '21 WRX, '20 S90 T6, '92 Nissan Gloria 3.0; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel. 65-car history and counting! '97 Suzuki R Wagon, '97 Alto Works, and '97 Pajero Mini on the way; Wagoneer L on order; and in queue for Lucid Air Pure, Blazer EV, and Fisker Ocean.

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 20,817

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  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 14,356

    Neighbors are big Acura fans. They have three. A TSX, a newer TL and this older one their son drives. I know the front end was controversial on this style but I think it has aged very well.

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  • ventureventure Central PAMember Posts: 2,420
    jmonroe1 said:

    au1994 said:

    nyccarguy said:

    xwesx said:

    ronsteve said:


    Not sure I'd call the 4th gen Outback an "improvement" but it sure did sell.

    That being said, the Outback is probably the most wagon-ish of the crop of SUVs (or crossovers if you insist, but hardly anything is body-on-frame to meet the classic definition of SUV) and I do like the XT. If there were any on the ground locally last month when my trade value was sky-high, I'd probably be driving one right now.

    I completely agree about that! I hated the 4th gen Outback. It lost 99% of its prior character with that generation and was straight up ugly on top of it. However, passenger space was vastly improved, and that was the hook for the majority of buyers. However, the third gen Forester, starting in 2009 MY, was almost all improvement (aside from the loss of a manual with the XT), and it shot Subaru to stardom at a time when all other manufacturers were suffering a significant contraction of sales, restructuring, etc.
    I saw one of those Outback Wilderness Editions last night. Jacked up, skinny tires, lots of cladding... not my cup of tea
    Yeah, its…interesting and I’ll leave it at that.

    Subaru does a lot right for the money. The Forester really seems to hit the bang for the buck very well if the size works for you. I too was disappointed that the Legacy couldn’t get something with more get up and go. Its a nice looking sedan.
    ————————————————-
    I think yours and @nyccarguy’s disappointment with the power of the Legacy is due to the 4 cylinder engine.

    Mrs. j has had 2 Legacies the first one was a 2012 and the one she has now is a 2018. Both the Limited model with the 3.6R 6 cylinder engine. While not a race car that engine has plenty of power. I have never had trouble keeping up with traffic, getting up to speed on interstate ramps or passing in any situation. It doesn’t compare in power to my V8 Genny but for a grocery getter it’s pretty damn good.

    jmonroe
    Agree about the 3.6. My present Legacy is the XT which has the 2.4 Turbo 4 and does 0-60 in 6.1 seconds; faster than the 3.6.

    Most people buying a Subaru probably aren't interested in, or care about, performance so the N/A 2.5 engine is satisfactory for them.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen incurable addictMember Posts: 31,594

    Geesh. I think I must have really stole the first Gloria. This same model, same condition, more miles sold for 2.5x what I paid for mine. Unless white is worth that much more than blue in Japan.

    '94 Pajero 2.8TD, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '21 WRX, '20 S90 T6, '92 Nissan Gloria 3.0; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel. 65-car history and counting! '97 Suzuki R Wagon, '97 Alto Works, and '97 Pajero Mini on the way; Wagoneer L on order; and in queue for Lucid Air Pure, Blazer EV, and Fisker Ocean.

  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 14,356

    @sda said:
    I think the front end with the pronounced beak on the next generation TL was unloved, but good cars. Our 06 TL is the same as that one. With 170k it still drives and runs extremely well. Quick too, in acceleration and draining the fuel tank!

    Yep you are right. This one has a little beak but the later ones had the more pronounced style and was the one I first thought of.

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  • StagnetStagnet Member Posts: 5
    To be honest, I like the Defender, but I'd go with a different color scheme. Now, I'm not a big fan of black alloys, but they look good on this car. It appears sinister...in a good manner, if that makes sense!
  • StagnetStagnet Member Posts: 5
    Honestly speaking, I'm in love with this defender.
  • graphicguygraphicguy Edmunds Poster EmeritusMember Posts: 13,599
    jmonroe1 said:

    Michaell said:
    ————————————————-
    I think I’m one of the older guys in here and I don’t have a clue how to help this guy. Maybe what is needed is a young wippersnaper who knows a thing or two about old Chevy’s. This otta be good.

    jmonroe
    Wait....what? You're speechless? Better get a check up. (j/k)!
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  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 2,619
    qbrozen said:

    @28firefighter said:

    My Elantra N should be ready any day now, so I’ve put the G35 up for sale. We shall see.

    Huh. I missed that order


    G35 left his wife stranded. He had it checked out and was a PS leak but car was banished.

    @28firefighter got a small discount on Elantra N so now is trying to catch @breld and @qbrozen 😂
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 8,801
    Admittedly, I'm having second thoughts about it...just in terms of whether I really need it or not.
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  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 14,356
    edited June 17

    @28firefighter said:
    Admittedly, I'm having second thoughts about it...just in terms of whether I really need it or not.

    I hear you. I keep eyeing something new, but it’s hard to justify when we drive so little and in six months have probably had both cars out together two or three times.

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  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 2,619

    Admittedly, I'm having second thoughts about it...just in terms of whether I really need it or not.

    No more of that talk or you will be banished along with the G35😇
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 8,801
    It's mostly that our MYP is scheduled for delivery on Tuesday and I'm wondering whether I really need to do two new cars at once. Seems ridiculous.
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  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 2,619
    The next time the G35 leaves you or your wife stranded, you will see the clearer picture 👌
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 8,801
    Probably, but for now I think I'm going to hold off.
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  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 2,619
    @28firefighter - Not getting the Elantra N?
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 8,801
    I don't think so - I really like it and want to have it, but my wife's Model Y is coming on Tuesday and I just can't justify the outlay of that much money at once - particularly for a car that will only see like 3000 miles a year.
    2022 Tesla Model Y Performance, 2022 Hyundai Elantra N
  • au1994au1994 GAMember Posts: 2,944

    I don't think so - I really like it and want to have it, but my wife's Model Y is coming on Tuesday and I just can't justify the outlay of that much money at once - particularly for a car that will only see like 3000 miles a year.

    Adulting is hard, yo.

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  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 2,619
    Where does @28firefighter turn in his CCBA card?😂
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 8,801
    au1994 said:

    I don't think so - I really like it and want to have it, but my wife's Model Y is coming on Tuesday and I just can't justify the outlay of that much money at once - particularly for a car that will only see like 3000 miles a year.

    Adulting is hard, yo.
    The MYP does 0-60 in like 3.5 seconds. Adulting isn't THAT bad.
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  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 5,273

    Admittedly, I'm having second thoughts about it...just in terms of whether I really need it or not.

    ————————————————-
    That doesn’t sound like logical talk on this board. The hosts are currently reviewing the purpose of continuing your membership in here. :/

    jmonroe
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  • qbrozenqbrozen incurable addictMember Posts: 31,594

    @28firefighter said:
    I don't think so - I really like it and want to have it, but my wife's Model Y is coming on Tuesday and I just can't justify the outlay of that much money at once - particularly for a car that will only see like 3000 miles a year.

    Before you go rejecting it, find out what the brokers would give for it.

    '94 Pajero 2.8TD, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '21 WRX, '20 S90 T6, '92 Nissan Gloria 3.0; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel. 65-car history and counting! '97 Suzuki R Wagon, '97 Alto Works, and '97 Pajero Mini on the way; Wagoneer L on order; and in queue for Lucid Air Pure, Blazer EV, and Fisker Ocean.

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 8,801

    @qbrozen said:

    @28firefighter said:
    I don't think so - I really like it and want to have it, but my wife's Model Y is coming on Tuesday and I just can't justify the outlay of that much money at once - particularly for a car that will only see like 3000 miles a year.

    Before you go rejecting it, find out what the brokers would give for it.

    I’d lose for now because of taxes

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,324
    We had the m340i in for its first service earlier this week. Shortly after I dropped my wife off for the pickup, I get a call from her proclaiming that she is in love with a white 4 series that was awaiting pickup. She’s been browsing MINI inventory, as she tends to do every Spring, so I suggest that a 4 series would combine what she loves about the M340i with a style that feels more personal to her.

    So…she called our salesperson at the BMW dealer where we bought her M340i last October and my X5 in January and placed an order for an M440i xdrive. Should be a July build with delivery sometime in September. Mineral white over red leather and extended shadowline, and this time she got to check the boxes for all the options she wanted.

    And yes…she’s okay with the schnoz.

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