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  • andres3andres3 Southern CAMember Posts: 13,298

    corvette said:

    Wow! What was that someone said about used car prices finally coming down?
    What, they came down $750. What more do you want? Are you trying to steal it from them? Car salesman have kids to feed too!
    :smile:
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  • sdasda Indian Land, SCMember Posts: 6,022
    When you can, more pics inside please and overall driving and livability impressions. Finally your long wait paid off.

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAMember Posts: 8,770

    Whew. That thing is serious business.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTMember Posts: 15,517

    Nice job @qbrozen ! Enjoy!

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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 209,735
    Makes me think of Jon and Kate.

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  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaMember Posts: 17,328
    Ideal commuter vehicle. B)

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  • corvettecorvette United StatesMember Posts: 9,360

    People are going to be asking qb's wife if she is there to fix their hvac or deliver their amazon package. :p

    It also resembles one of the Bookmobiles the library in my hometown had. :p
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 31,349
    soooo much modding to be done! lol.
    But I told her it is going on the trip FIRST. If, by the time we return, she says "yep, this is a keeper," then we can put money into it. First on her list are rear windows that open.

    I'll get more interior pics in the daylight. I drove it home because she wants to get comfortable with it in familiar surroundings. It drives WAY better than I imagined. On the highway, you can very quickly forget the size of the beast. Probably predictably, it provides the best seating position for my 6'5" frame of any vehicle I've ever been in, and the 12-way seat helps. Less predictably, I can stand up almost completely straight inside. That's just crazy. A couple of little details I love: fold out cupholders under every seat in the back and every row has 1-2 cell phone holders with USB-C ports.

    '94 Pajero 2.8TD, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '21 WRX, '20 S90 T6, '22 4xE, '92 Nissan Gloria 3.0; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel. 65-car history and counting! '97 Suzuki R Wagon, '97 Alto Works on the way; Wagoneer L on order; and in queue for Lucid Air Pure, Blazer EV, and Fisker Ocean.

  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Pittsburgh areaMember Posts: 5,070
    qbrozen said:

    soooo much modding to be done! lol.
    But I told her it is going on the trip FIRST. If, by the time we return, she says "yep, this is a keeper," then we can put money into it. First on her list are rear windows that open.

    I'll get more interior pics in the daylight. I drove it home because she wants to get comfortable with it in familiar surroundings. It drives WAY better than I imagined. On the highway, you can very quickly forget the size of the beast. Probably predictably, it provides the best seating position for my 6'5" frame of any vehicle I've ever been in, and the 12-way seat helps. Less predictably, I can stand up almost completely straight inside. That's just crazy. A couple of little details I love: fold out cupholders under every seat in the back and every row has 1-2 cell phone holders with USB-C ports.

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    It seems to have a good bit of length to it but you should have ordered the model that gives you a few more inches of head room. That way you could have a few of your friends over for an indoor basketball game.

    Good luck with it.

    jmonroe
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  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 14,151
    edited August 13
    There could be no better vehicle for a long road trip with a family. They do drive nice. At my old job we had two of them, very comfortable for a long ride even in cargo configuration. Fun fact you can load full pallets in them with a forklift.

    It does need some new wheels if you are keeping it (my humble opinion :smile: )

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  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 2,598

    It does need some new wheels if you are keeping it (my humble opinion :smile: )

    Just some dog dishes?

  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 14,151

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  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 14,151
    I parked next to new Tundra Capstone last night. That is one seriously nice truck. I’d cringe to see how much over MSRP they paid. A broker oh LH has one for 2k over but the original price was 15k over.

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  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 2,598
    edited August 13
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 210,236
    tjc78 said:

    I parked next to new Tundra Capstone last night. That is one seriously nice truck. I’d cringe to see how much over MSRP they paid. A broker oh LH has one for 2k over but the original price was 15k over.

    That's the Hybrid, right?

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  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaMember Posts: 17,328
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    mjfloyd1 said:

    Have to paint the bumper to pull off that look


    Have to do a lot more than that.

    With the uncertain future this thing likely has I would keep it as an anonymous white-painted van with steelies until it departs the herd and not put one thin dime into "enhancing" it.

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  • au1994au1994 GAMember Posts: 2,913
    kyfdx said:

    tjc78 said:

    I parked next to new Tundra Capstone last night. That is one seriously nice truck. I’d cringe to see how much over MSRP they paid. A broker oh LH has one for 2k over but the original price was 15k over.

    That's the Hybrid, right?
    I thought they all were now.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 31,349

    I like the industrial wheels. It basically has black dog dishes. Suppose if I was adventurous, I’d paint the steelies black and put on chrome centers. But new wheels? Nah.

    And, yes, it all comes down to if it is a keeper. Wife hasn’t even driven it and she was shopping accessories last night.

    '94 Pajero 2.8TD, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '21 WRX, '20 S90 T6, '22 4xE, '92 Nissan Gloria 3.0; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel. 65-car history and counting! '97 Suzuki R Wagon, '97 Alto Works on the way; Wagoneer L on order; and in queue for Lucid Air Pure, Blazer EV, and Fisker Ocean.

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 31,349

    BTW, I’m visiting some dealers today to shop the 4xe. Hopefully someone steps up.

    '94 Pajero 2.8TD, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '21 WRX, '20 S90 T6, '22 4xE, '92 Nissan Gloria 3.0; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel. 65-car history and counting! '97 Suzuki R Wagon, '97 Alto Works on the way; Wagoneer L on order; and in queue for Lucid Air Pure, Blazer EV, and Fisker Ocean.

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 20,566
    qbrozen said:





    Should have gotten it in yellow then you could rent it out on Turo as a school bus. :*

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 210,236
    au1994 said:

    kyfdx said:

    tjc78 said:

    I parked next to new Tundra Capstone last night. That is one seriously nice truck. I’d cringe to see how much over MSRP they paid. A broker oh LH has one for 2k over but the original price was 15k over.

    That's the Hybrid, right?
    I thought they all were now.
    I don't think so..

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 20,566
    jmonroe1 said:

    qbrozen said:

    soooo much modding to be done! lol.
    But I told her it is going on the trip FIRST. If, by the time we return, she says "yep, this is a keeper," then we can put money into it. First on her list are rear windows that open.

    I'll get more interior pics in the daylight. I drove it home because she wants to get comfortable with it in familiar surroundings. It drives WAY better than I imagined. On the highway, you can very quickly forget the size of the beast. Probably predictably, it provides the best seating position for my 6'5" frame of any vehicle I've ever been in, and the 12-way seat helps. Less predictably, I can stand up almost completely straight inside. That's just crazy. A couple of little details I love: fold out cupholders under every seat in the back and every row has 1-2 cell phone holders with USB-C ports.

    ————————————————
    It seems to have a good bit of length to it but you should have ordered the model that gives you a few more inches of head room. That way you could have a few of your friends over for an indoor basketball game.

    Good luck with it.

    jmonroe
    Just be careful taking it into parking garages. Many of them have an 8’2” limit and if that has the same height as a Ford Transit it will scrape the roof.

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,285
    edited August 13
    I finally got a response from my Toyota salesperson on reserving a GR86. He said I could come in and “order” one. Do you really order a Toyota? Or is it more about stating your preferences, placing a deposit, and getting notified when one is allocated to them with your preferred options and colors?

    And despite my initial lukewarm response to the BMW iX, I’m starting to think a bit more about it. Depending on the amount and terms of the deposit, I’m considering ordering one and just seeing what happens between that and the R1S.

    And still thinking about the Integra, the Z. Did I mention I really like the refreshed Palisade? :)

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,285
    @qbrozen - hope your wife likes the Transit, ‘cause I look forward to seeing your modifications on it.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 31,349

    @breld said:
    @qbrozen - hope your wife likes the Transit, ‘cause I look forward to seeing your modifications on it.

    Bite your tongue!
    It is a Sprinter. ;b

    '94 Pajero 2.8TD, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '21 WRX, '20 S90 T6, '22 4xE, '92 Nissan Gloria 3.0; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel. 65-car history and counting! '97 Suzuki R Wagon, '97 Alto Works on the way; Wagoneer L on order; and in queue for Lucid Air Pure, Blazer EV, and Fisker Ocean.

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 31,349

    Down here in the Mt laurel sort of area. Visited Carshop and now at Carmax. Any others I should try?

    '94 Pajero 2.8TD, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '21 WRX, '20 S90 T6, '22 4xE, '92 Nissan Gloria 3.0; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel. 65-car history and counting! '97 Suzuki R Wagon, '97 Alto Works on the way; Wagoneer L on order; and in queue for Lucid Air Pure, Blazer EV, and Fisker Ocean.

  • graphicguygraphicguy Edmunds Poster EmeritusMember Posts: 13,555
    qbrozen said:





    Me likey! Congrats!
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  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 14,151
    qbrozen said:

    Down here in the Mt laurel sort of area. Visited Carshop and now at Carmax. Any others I should try?

    Auto lenders. Head south on RT73

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  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 14,151
    au1994 said:

    kyfdx said:

    tjc78 said:

    I parked next to new Tundra Capstone last night. That is one seriously nice truck. I’d cringe to see how much over MSRP they paid. A broker oh LH has one for 2k over but the original price was 15k over.

    That's the Hybrid, right?
    I thought they all were now.
    Yes Hybrid. Base is a turbo 3.5 V6

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  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaMember Posts: 17,328


    Should have gotten it in yellow then you could rent it out on Turo as a school bus. :*

    Or let the wife get a set of headlight eyelashes and some grille whiskers for it and let Truly Nolen use it. Can't put mouse ears on the roof though because it wouldn't clear overpasses. :D

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,285
    qbrozen said:

    @breld said:
    @qbrozen - hope your wife likes the Transit, ‘cause I look forward to seeing your modifications on it.

    Bite your tongue!

    It is a Sprinter. ;b


    Whoops! I was thinking something seemed wrong as I was typing that out!

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 31,349

    @tjc78 said:
    Auto lenders. Head south on RT73

    Got an online offer from them. It was terrible.

    So far, all offers are bad. May wind up keeping it.

    '94 Pajero 2.8TD, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '21 WRX, '20 S90 T6, '22 4xE, '92 Nissan Gloria 3.0; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel. 65-car history and counting! '97 Suzuki R Wagon, '97 Alto Works on the way; Wagoneer L on order; and in queue for Lucid Air Pure, Blazer EV, and Fisker Ocean.

  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 14,151

    They seem to be hit or miss with their quotes. When you say “bad” .. you mean upside down bad or just not worth it to you to sell.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 31,349

    @tjc78 said:
    They seem to be hit or miss with their quotes. When you say “bad” .. you mean upside down bad or just not worth it to you to sell.

    Not worth it. I can get back what I have in it plus $1k profit.

    '94 Pajero 2.8TD, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '21 WRX, '20 S90 T6, '22 4xE, '92 Nissan Gloria 3.0; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel. 65-car history and counting! '97 Suzuki R Wagon, '97 Alto Works on the way; Wagoneer L on order; and in queue for Lucid Air Pure, Blazer EV, and Fisker Ocean.

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 55,331
    edited August 13
    More like an impulsive buyer, a friend of mine just let go of a Ford Fusion and replaced it with...drumroll please...a 2018 Cadillac CT6 hybrid. He bought the Ford new in late 2017, I forget if it is a 17 or 18, paid 22K for it - not loaded, bought it as a commuter. He says they gave him 16K for the Ford, and the Caddy was 46K. Caddy is a 30K mile lease return, local car, CPO. He made no mention of this the last time I talked to him, and it sounds like it just randomly happened when he was "looking". He's long had a thing for the CT6, he has unusual taste in cars, his other car is a green on green hard loaded Lincoln MKZ hybrid, which will apparently be used as a commuter (spouse works from home and doesn't object to the Caddy).
  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaMember Posts: 17,328
    The CT6 was a lovely car. I either was unaware of the hybrid or had forgotten that they offered that. What is the color combo?

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 55,331
    White (I assume a pearlescent white) with "cinnamon" interior, which is kind of a saddle color.

    I remember he test drove one back in the day, and I was with him, he was a fan.
    ab348 said:

    The CT6 was a lovely car. I either was unaware of the hybrid or had forgotten that they offered that. What is the color combo?

  • carnaughtcarnaught Desert SWMember Posts: 3,368
    edited August 13
    I believe that Caddy has a “mild hybrid”. It will save some gas. It seems to in my son’s ‘22 Audi A3, FWIW.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 North Central OHMember Posts: 17,747
    A lot of 1/2 ton pickups would be technically overloaded with a 1/2 of cargo since you have to include the weight of the driver..
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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 55,331
    carnaught said:

    I believe that Caddy has a “mild hybrid”. It will save some gas. It seems to in my son’s ‘22 Audi A3, FWIW.

    He's happy with the efficiency of his MKZ, I suspect the CT6 will be a similar (more posh) experience).

    Years ago he had a Prius, hated it, but doesn't seem to have been turned off hybrids.
  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Coral Springs, FLMember Posts: 6,326
    Drove a newish 2022 Honda Civic EX-L hatch yesterday with just over 6600 miles on it that we bought from a local Honda store. Liked the inside a lot as ergonomically, it's about perfect. The rear fascia is less boy-racer now and makes it all look like a more mature sedan. Being an EX-L, it had leather seats and the sunroof but the audio system was nothing to write home about. Was probably their everyday 180 watt system and sounded just o k, nothing to crow about. Do think Honda will sell every one they can make though as it makes the Toyota Corolla look downright ancient now. Seriously, Toyota needs to up their game with the Corolla cause even the Korean makes are just so much better. The Elantra is really looking so nice now and their "N" model is really good looking.
    A real shame VW decided not to import the lowly Golf anymore as I'd probably be in the market very soon. Did drive another Mini Cooper Countryman at work today and didn't notice any real turbo lag when taking off from a stop. My Golf has a definite lag with each forward movement after a full stop unless I put the shifter into "S" mode before I move. No more turbo lag but being in sport mode, it holds each additional shift longer until the tach drops the rpm's. Uses a bit more petrol unless I remember to pop the shifter back into "D" mode right away. But noticed today, only used an 1/8th of a tank of petrol since last Saturday when last time I stopped at the pumps. Was just curious to see how much I was using each week and really isn't much. Working so close to home these last few years has really slowed down the number of miles I'm putting on my Golf which is fine with me.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 55,331
    edited August 13
    Van has the same steering wheel as MY 2019-20 E-class (and maybe C-class and others as well).
  • corvettecorvette United StatesMember Posts: 9,360
    Interesting that on the RAV4 Prime, the standard onboard charger is 3.3 kW and takes 4.5 hours to charge the battery from empty using a Level 2 supply, whereas the higher optioned ones have a 6.6 kW charger and can charge in 2.5 hours. Given that the use case for plug-in hybrids is that they are designed to be charged overnight, every night, I doubt that it will make much of a difference for most people, and I'm sure it allows them to hit a lower price point.
  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 14,151
    @qbrozen
    That is much nicer inside than I realized!

    I owe it to myself to tell you that if you're taking the whole tribe cross-country, the MB Sprinter is the way to go

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