. . . between the abysmal styling of so many of their new cars and the emphasis on style over substance I just can't get excited over 99% of their current product line.
Isn't that the truth -- many answers to questions that no one ever asked. The last time I really wanted a BMW I could barely afford one, and by the time I could comfortably own (not lease) one, I wouldn't be caught dead in it.
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jmonroe
'15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's. '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
. . . between the abysmal styling of so many of their new cars and the emphasis on style over substance I just can't get excited over 99% of their current product line.
Isn't that the truth -- many answers to questions that no one ever asked. The last time I really wanted a BMW I could barely afford one, and by the time I could comfortably own (not lease) one, I wouldn't be caught dead in it.
I bought my E46 very late in the model year specifically because of the, let's say, awkwardness of the next model.
I agree with Roadburner that now the 3 and the 5 (and I guess the 8 but I wasn't interested in that) are the only ones left that are not bordering on hideous. That's a reason why I bought my 330 when I did - that and because it was the colors I was looking for.
In hindsight I think I actually like the 5 better.
@qbrozen said:
unbelievably, I received titles for both Pajero Minis today. That's like 1/4th the time of all previous titles. I wonder what I did to get such special treatment. Possibly because I sent a priority mail envelope with 3 white envelopes inside. One with a follow-up form for the Opel that I screwed up, and the other 2 with the Pajero apps. I guess maybe they took care of the Opel follow-up and figured "eh, let's do these others."
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Good to hear. I guess when you stuff envelopes with Franklins it helps.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's. '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
@fintail said:
At least with MB most of the lineup is maybe inoffensive, unlike some BMW weirdness (buckteeth grille, weird lumpy EVs) - maybe the oddest being the bathtub EVs. But when compared to 60s-90s models, the styling sometimes misses the mark. I know new cars are much easier to live with under the hood, but design-wise sometimes I think we're in a 21st century 1958.
The C Class styling is growing on me; I think it hits exactly the right balance for a sports sedan.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2020 C43; 2009 Cooper Clubman; 1999 Wrangler; 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive
I tried to log into my Vanguard account but had trouble. First, it's an old email address which I never use anymore and then the password, couldn't remember it. So now, the site tells me I need to call Monday to Friday from 8 am to 8 pm to speak with a human. Too many hoops if you ask me. Seeing the Edward Jones lady Monday at 11 to get a 6 month and a year CD. As long as there are no extra fees involved, I'll go with them. Once I get the Vanguard account fixed, can see what they have and go from there. Have a small amount sitting in the savings I'd like to get some more interest on and since we won't be using it for at least another year, might as well make it work for us. Had Vanguard many years ago before I switched over to Fidelity, wanted to consolidate everything at the time. Now, don't care that much if I use both companies.
2015 Audi A3 (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
sounds like an appropriate amount of hoops to me. I would be upset if Vanguard (since I use them) didn't obsess about security!
and all this talk of actually getting interest on cash reserves makes me realize I should check what I have mine in. Too much in the checking accounts (though that gets paid interest at our new bank, just not much).
If you (or anyone) has a Schwab account, apparently they no longer automatically sweep cash reserves into a money market fund. That was an interesting discovery I made recently.
@oldfarmer50 said:
Barrett-Jackson in AZ just sold VIN #1 of the new 2024 Mustang for $490,000. Costs money to be first.
Was it at least the Dark Horse model?
'94 Pajero 2.8TD, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '21 WRX, '20 S90 T6, '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel, '97 Suzuki R Wagon, '97 Alto Works, '96 Opel Astra, TWO 4wd '97 Pajero Minis (1 turbo auto and 1 N/A manual); Wagoneer L on order; and in queue for Lucid Air Pure, Blazer EV, and Fisker Ocean.
I tried to log into my Vanguard account but had trouble. First, it's an old email address which I never use anymore and then the password, couldn't remember it. So now, the site tells me I need to call Monday to Friday from 8 am to 8 pm to speak with a human. Too many hoops if you ask me. Seeing the Edward Jones lady Monday at 11 to get a 6 month and a year CD. As long as there are no extra fees involved, I'll go with them. Once I get the Vanguard account fixed, can see what they have and go from there. Have a small amount sitting in the savings I'd like to get some more interest on and since we won't be using it for at least another year, might as well make it work for us. Had Vanguard many years ago before I switched over to Fidelity, wanted to consolidate everything at the time. Now, don't care that much if I use both companies.
We have Vanguard accounts. We got many mailings from them a couple years back explaining changes to their system that included brokerage capabilities AND that they wanted all accounts to convert to the NEW computer system's format. After a couple of years I assume any information in the old accounts is difficult to access if not impossible. So calling them Monday to link up your dormant accounts would be the best thing to do.
sounds like an appropriate amount of hoops to me. I would be upset if Vanguard (since I use them) didn't obsess about security!
and all this talk of actually getting interest on cash reserves makes me realize I should check what I have mine in. Too much in the checking accounts (though that gets paid interest at our new bank, just not much).
I just got am email telling me my wife's account at Vanguard needs to be changed over. BUT I did change them both at least a year ago. So I will have to spend some time logging into each account soon, adjusting the beneficiary, etc., so I can be sure it's working and is marked as current so they are required to send it to unclaimed funds for the State of Ohio as a dormant account.
Fidelity required registration changes at about the same time. I use Fidelity's brokerage but not Vanguard's. Vanguard is using some investing methods I don't care for, so I just leave the mutual funds there for now. I've considered moving all funds out of there to Fidelity.
BTW everyone should check for unclaimed funds in any state in which they have lived. You can start with your state's Secretary of State office or go to missingmoney.com which works for most states. I found a few weeks ago that there were 4 items they listed for me in Ohio. All trivial, total was less than $10. Not work my time. But I found money in names similar to and locations possible for friends from years ago. So I sent them copies of the listings.
In past 3 years I had one mutual fund send a letter warning an account had been dormant and was appraoching age to be sent to State. I had accessed fund by computer because I do that once a year, but the company is always right....... LOL.
At least with MB most of the lineup is maybe inoffensive, unlike some BMW weirdness (buckteeth grille, weird lumpy EVs) - maybe the oddest being the bathtub EVs. But when compared to 60s-90s models, the styling sometimes misses the mark. I know new cars are much easier to live with under the hood, but design-wise sometimes I think we're in a 21st century 1958.
The C Class styling is growing on me; I think it hits exactly the right balance for a sports sedan.
Seeing as W205 debuted in 2014 for the 2015 model year - almost 10 years ago now, it has aged pretty well. If there's one thing the Germans usually do, it is produce designs that don't look dated in 3 years.
'94 Pajero 2.8TD, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '21 WRX, '20 S90 T6, '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel, '97 Suzuki R Wagon, '97 Alto Works, '96 Opel Astra, TWO 4wd '97 Pajero Minis (1 turbo auto and 1 N/A manual); Wagoneer L on order; and in queue for Lucid Air Pure, Blazer EV, and Fisker Ocean.
even if it was a hardtop, I can't stomach the price.
'94 Pajero 2.8TD, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '21 WRX, '20 S90 T6, '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel, '97 Suzuki R Wagon, '97 Alto Works, '96 Opel Astra, TWO 4wd '97 Pajero Minis (1 turbo auto and 1 N/A manual); Wagoneer L on order; and in queue for Lucid Air Pure, Blazer EV, and Fisker Ocean.
Sort of an interesting purchase story: My best friend's sister in law has a Grand Cherokee Limited that she leased (through a local CU) about 3 years ago. She was over the mileage, the SUV wasn't exactly in pristine condition (cracked front bumper & hood that was littered with dents and scratches), and she was out of warranty. She didn't want to get a "lesser" vehicle than her Grand Cherokee and pay more money per month. She extended the lease. Over the course of the past 6 months she has sent him endless "what do you think of this car" texts. She finally decided that she LOVES the Lexus IS 300 AWD. She (with his help) finds one at the dealer where my parents' have leased my Mom's 2 RX 350s from. She found a dark blue/brown 2018 IS 300 AWD (non F-Sport) with around 50K miles listed for $26 or $27K. She goes, looks at the car, drives it, and LOVES it. Rolls $2K worth of negative equity from her Jeep into a 72 month loan at 7.9% APR.
Here's what's sort of interesting. The dealer reconditions every used Lexus to CPO standards. They give the customer the option of whether or not they want the vehicle certified. They go over the benefits of what is and isn't covered under the LEXUS CPO warranty and if the customer says yes, then they add $2,995 to the purchase price.
Sort of an interesting purchase story: My best friend's sister in law has a Grand Cherokee Limited that she leased (through a local CU) about 3 years ago. She was over the mileage, the SUV wasn't exactly in pristine condition (cracked front bumper & hood that was littered with dents and scratches), and she was out of warranty. She didn't want to get a "lesser" vehicle than her Grand Cherokee and pay more money per month. She extended the lease. Over the course of the past 6 months she has sent him endless "what do you think of this car" texts. She finally decided that she LOVES the Lexus IS 300 AWD. She (with his help) finds one at the dealer where my parents' have leased my Mom's 2 RX 350s from. She found a dark blue/brown 2018 IS 300 AWD (non F-Sport) with around 50K miles listed for $26 or $27K. She goes, looks at the car, drives it, and LOVES it. Rolls $2K worth of negative equity from her Jeep into a 72 month loan at 7.9% APR.
Here's what's sort of interesting. The dealer reconditions every used Lexus to CPO standards. They give the customer the option of whether or not they want the vehicle certified. They go over the benefits of what is and isn't covered under the LEXUS CPO warranty and if the customer says yes, then they add $2,995 to the purchase price.
Does she have a bad credit rating? 7.9% is rather high, even these days.
BMW cracked the whip on dealers allowing customers the option of CPO-ing a vehicle many years ago, IIRC, but I guess Lexus allows it. Itβs unusual that they put that level of recon into every vehicle, regardless of whether or not the customer springs for the CPO warranty.
Funny enough, this is the same M240 vert I was considering last summer. Whoever bought it hardly put any miles on it, and now itβs listed $10k less than before.
It was sold as a CPO last summerβ¦does that coverage stay with the car or just to the original CPO buyer?
Funny enough, this is the same M240 vert I was considering last summer. Whoever bought it hardly put any miles on it, and now itβs listed $10k less than before.
It was sold as a CPO last summerβ¦does that coverage stay with the car or just to the original CPO buyer?
I think I just let an attractively priced '18 M240xi vert slip through my fat fingers thanks to my indecision... But, it had the black wheels, no me gusta. So, that will help me sleep at night.
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); ??? (Ours?)
@breld said:
Funny enough, this is the same M240 vert I was considering last summer. Whoever bought it hardly put any miles on it, and now itβs listed $10k less than before.
It was sold as a CPO last summerβ¦does that coverage stay with the car or just to the original CPO buyer?
'94 Pajero 2.8TD, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '21 WRX, '20 S90 T6, '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel, '97 Suzuki R Wagon, '97 Alto Works, '96 Opel Astra, TWO 4wd '97 Pajero Minis (1 turbo auto and 1 N/A manual); Wagoneer L on order; and in queue for Lucid Air Pure, Blazer EV, and Fisker Ocean.
Funny enough, this is the same M240 vert I was considering last summer. Whoever bought it hardly put any miles on it, and now itβs listed $10k less than before.
It was sold as a CPO last summerβ¦does that coverage stay with the car or just to the original CPO buyer?
I think I just let an attractively priced '18 M240xi vert slip through my fat fingers thanks to my indecision... But, it had the black wheels, no me gusta. So, that will help me sleep at night.
I'm sure you could buy some silver (or gunmetal) BMW wheels for not a huge amount of money.
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I read some more reviews and decided to just move my savings to Vanguard Federal Money Market.
I WAS WONDERING WHY HE WAS YELLING π
Does Hyundai/Kia own UFB? π
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
Thatβs the down side of getting old slowly.
jmonroe
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Iβd rather have a Snickers.
jmonroe
I agree with Roadburner that now the 3 and the 5 (and I guess the 8 but I wasn't interested in that) are the only ones left that are not bordering on hideous. That's a reason why I bought my 330 when I did - that and because it was the colors I was looking for.
In hindsight I think I actually like the 5 better.
2020 Ascent Limited, 2023 BMW 330i xDrive
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Good to hear. I guess when you stuff envelopes with Franklins it helps.
jmonroe
The C Class styling is growing on me; I think it hits exactly the right balance for a sports sedan.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2020 C43; 2009 Cooper Clubman; 1999 Wrangler; 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2004 Chevy Van, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Had Vanguard many years ago before I switched over to Fidelity, wanted to consolidate everything at the time. Now, don't care that much if I use both companies.
2015 Audi A3 (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
and all this talk of actually getting interest on cash reserves makes me realize I should check what I have mine in. Too much in the checking accounts (though that gets paid interest at our new bank, just not much).
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD , 2022 Ford Maverick Lariat Ecoboost FWD. - sold. 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury pending build
Was it at least the Dark Horse model?
'94 Pajero 2.8TD, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '21 WRX, '20 S90 T6, '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel, '97 Suzuki R Wagon, '97 Alto Works, '96 Opel Astra, TWO 4wd '97 Pajero Minis (1 turbo auto and 1 N/A manual); Wagoneer L on order; and in queue for Lucid Air Pure, Blazer EV, and Fisker Ocean.
I knew that you would Snicker at my bad jokeπ
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Fidelity required registration changes at about the same time. I use Fidelity's brokerage but not Vanguard's. Vanguard is using some investing methods I don't care for, so I just leave the mutual funds there for now. I've considered moving all funds out of there to Fidelity.
BTW everyone should check for unclaimed funds in any state in which they have lived. You can start with your state's Secretary of State office or go to missingmoney.com which works for most states. I found a few weeks ago that there were 4 items they listed for me in Ohio. All trivial, total was less than $10. Not work my time. But I found money in names similar to and locations possible for friends from years ago. So I sent them copies of the listings.
In past 3 years I had one mutual fund send a letter warning an account had been dormant and was appraoching age to be sent to State. I had accessed fund by computer because I do that once a year, but the company is always right....... LOL.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
The C Class styling is growing on me; I think it hits exactly the right balance for a sports sedan.
Seeing as W205 debuted in 2014 for the 2015 model year - almost 10 years ago now, it has aged pretty well. If there's one thing the Germans usually do, it is produce designs that don't look dated in 3 years.
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Too bad. You lobbed up an easy one.
jmonroe
2021 Polestar 2 - 2020 MB E450 Wagon - 2022 WRX - 2022 Mach E GT - 2023 MINI Hardtop S - 2023 Bronco
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Isnβt that the case with ALL of his cars?
jmonroe
I assume that truck is just taking it someplace to get on a bigger truck? Because that would one expensive tow truck ride!
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD , 2022 Ford Maverick Lariat Ecoboost FWD. - sold. 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury pending build
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I have 12 cars right this moment. YIKES!!
'94 Pajero 2.8TD, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '21 WRX, '20 S90 T6, '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel, '97 Suzuki R Wagon, '97 Alto Works, '96 Opel Astra, TWO 4wd '97 Pajero Minis (1 turbo auto and 1 N/A manual); Wagoneer L on order; and in queue for Lucid Air Pure, Blazer EV, and Fisker Ocean.
Safe travels good buddy!
2021 Jeep Wrangler Sahara 4xe Granite Crystal over Saddle
2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha
2011 BMW 328i Jet Black over Tan
Ford is responding to the Tesla price cuts today-

21 Tesla 3 Perf / 21 Tesla Y LR / 20 BMW M2C 6MT / 11 BMW Z4 6MT / 03 Montero Ltd
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Note that description doesn't match the pictures, tranny-wise.
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); ??? (Ours?)
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD , 2022 Ford Maverick Lariat Ecoboost FWD. - sold. 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury pending build
2021 Jeep Wrangler Sahara 4xe Granite Crystal over Saddle
2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha
2011 BMW 328i Jet Black over Tan
21 Tesla 3 Perf / 21 Tesla Y LR / 20 BMW M2C 6MT / 11 BMW Z4 6MT / 03 Montero Ltd
'94 Pajero 2.8TD, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '21 WRX, '20 S90 T6, '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel, '97 Suzuki R Wagon, '97 Alto Works, '96 Opel Astra, TWO 4wd '97 Pajero Minis (1 turbo auto and 1 N/A manual); Wagoneer L on order; and in queue for Lucid Air Pure, Blazer EV, and Fisker Ocean.
Let me rephrase. I could enjoy having it, but not handle paying for it.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD , 2022 Ford Maverick Lariat Ecoboost FWD. - sold. 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury pending build
Here's what's sort of interesting. The dealer reconditions every used Lexus to CPO standards. They give the customer the option of whether or not they want the vehicle certified. They go over the benefits of what is and isn't covered under the LEXUS CPO warranty and if the customer says yes, then they add $2,995 to the purchase price.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe
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BMW cracked the whip on dealers allowing customers the option of CPO-ing a vehicle many years ago, IIRC, but I guess Lexus allows it. Itβs unusual that they put that level of recon into every vehicle, regardless of whether or not the customer springs for the CPO warranty.
Funny enough, this is the same M240 vert I was considering last summer. Whoever bought it hardly put any miles on it, and now itβs listed $10k less than before.
It was sold as a CPO last summerβ¦does that coverage stay with the car or just to the original CPO buyer?
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/748da61d-2e6a-44b4-9862-4cde2015532c/
2021 Polestar 2 - 2020 MB E450 Wagon - 2022 WRX - 2022 Mach E GT - 2023 MINI Hardtop S - 2023 Bronco
I think I just let an attractively priced '18 M240xi vert slip through my fat fingers thanks to my indecision...
But, it had the black wheels, no me gusta. So, that will help me sleep at night.
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); ??? (Ours?)
CPO sTays with the car
'94 Pajero 2.8TD, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '21 WRX, '20 S90 T6, '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel, '97 Suzuki R Wagon, '97 Alto Works, '96 Opel Astra, TWO 4wd '97 Pajero Minis (1 turbo auto and 1 N/A manual); Wagoneer L on order; and in queue for Lucid Air Pure, Blazer EV, and Fisker Ocean.
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