Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous

tjc78

Honestly these large screens with everything integrated and software controlled are probably a net savings rather than all separate modules.

Bonus is most consumers love them and they look “fancy”

jmonroe1

xwesx said:

Mah, dang. I forgot to drive through the lot when I left work. I was literally 200 meters away. /sigh

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A real poster buddy would have turned around and gone back when he realized he screwed up.

jmonroe

jmonroe1

ab348 said:

I didn't know that Ford had changed the IP in the Mustang from the one used in the 2023...



...to this one found in the 2024 model:



Not sure it is an improvement.

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Should have left it alone. Another example of fixing something that wasn’t broken.

jmonroe

andres3

jmonroe1 said:

ab348 said:

I didn't know that Ford had changed the IP in the Mustang from the one used in the 2023...



...to this one found in the 2024 model:



Not sure it is an improvement.

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Should have left it alone. Another example of fixing something that wasn’t broken.

jmonroe

Looks like the materials quality has improved a lot.

nyccarguy

Someone from LH suggested this:

https://boston.craigslist.org/nos/cto/d/newburyport-2008-subaru-outback-wagon/7643574058.html

ab348

andres3 said:

jmonroe1 said:

ab348 said:

I didn't know that Ford had changed the IP in the Mustang from the one used in the 2023...



...to this one found in the 2024 model:



Not sure it is an improvement.

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Should have left it alone. Another example of fixing something that wasn’t broken.

jmonroe

Looks like the materials quality has improved a lot.

Seats appear the same, as do the door cards and the right 1/3rd of the dash. Not sure what you’re seeing there.

roadburner

jmonroe1 said:

ab348 said:

I didn't know that Ford had changed the IP in the Mustang from the one used in the 2023...



...to this one found in the 2024 model:



Not sure it is an improvement.

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Should have left it alone. Another example of fixing something that wasn’t broken.

jmonroe

The screen looks like an aftermarket add-on- this is one time Ford should not have tried to copy BMW:

xwesx

nyccarguy said:

Someone from LH suggested this:

https://boston.craigslist.org/nos/cto/d/newburyport-2008-subaru-outback-wagon/7643574058.html

Price is exactly comparable to the gold one (difference being trim level). No shots underneath, but, if you're leaning toward one of these, I don't think you'll do poorly with either one.

au1994

nyccarguy said:

Someone from LH suggested this:

https://boston.craigslist.org/nos/cto/d/newburyport-2008-subaru-outback-wagon/7643574058.html

looks like any of the Subies you have posted would work. Another good choice for a new driver. Safe, reliable and relatively slow!

Michaell

au1994 said:

nyccarguy said:

Someone from LH suggested this:

https://boston.craigslist.org/nos/cto/d/newburyport-2008-subaru-outback-wagon/7643574058.html

looks like any of the Subies you have posted would work. Another good choice for a new driver. Safe, reliable and relatively slow!

Trust me, slow doesn't mean that the new driver still can't be stupid behind the wheel.

Ask me how I know.

jmonroe1

Michaell said:

au1994 said:

nyccarguy said:

Someone from LH suggested this:

https://boston.craigslist.org/nos/cto/d/newburyport-2008-subaru-outback-wagon/7643574058.html

looks like any of the Subies you have posted would work. Another good choice for a new driver. Safe, reliable and relatively slow!

Trust me, slow doesn't mean that the new driver still can't be stupid behind the wheel.

Ask me how I know.

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C’mon man, say it ain’t so.

jmonroe

jmonroe1

ab348 said:

andres3 said:

jmonroe1 said:

ab348 said:

I didn't know that Ford had changed the IP in the Mustang from the one used in the 2023...



...to this one found in the 2024 model:



Not sure it is an improvement.

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Should have left it alone. Another example of fixing something that wasn’t broken.

jmonroe

Looks like the materials quality has improved a lot.

Seats appear the same, as do the door cards and the right 1/3rd of the dash. Not sure what you’re seeing there.

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Same here. Even though I’m seeing this on my cell phone I’m pretty sure it would look the same if I saw those views on my higher quality desktop monitor.

I would have to touch the interior materials to make a valid comment about its quality.

jmonroe

au1994

Michaell said:

au1994 said:

nyccarguy said:

Someone from LH suggested this:

https://boston.craigslist.org/nos/cto/d/newburyport-2008-subaru-outback-wagon/7643574058.html

looks like any of the Subies you have posted would work. Another good choice for a new driver. Safe, reliable and relatively slow!

Trust me, slow doesn't mean that the new driver still can't be stupid behind the wheel.

Ask me how I know.

I know. But it helps.

qbrozen

Got a bare minimum offer on the bimmer and accepted. We’ll see if it goes through.

@nyccarguy will come to regret letting it slip through the first time he has to deal with subie head gaskets. ;b

kyfdx

qbrozen said:

Got a bare minimum offer on the bimmer and accepted. We’ll see if it goes through.

@nyccarguy will come to regret letting it slip through the first time he has to deal with subie head gaskets. ;b

I actually agree with this...

28firefighter

That car is going to make someone very happy. Bummed for you it took so long to sell.

roadburner

I know that some don't agree, but I like the screen installed inside a traditional instrument binnacle- as Ford did with the 2018-2023 Mustang and Mercedes did with the W205 C43:

28firefighter

Is it weird to say that I like the steering wheel most?

nyccarguy

@qbrozen said:
Got a bare minimum offer on the bimmer and accepted. We’ll see if it goes through.

@nyccarguy will come to regret letting it slip through the first time he has to deal with subie head gaskets. ;b

Your BMW is a great car. I I don’t think it is the right car for my son. At least I would have peace of mind buying the car from you. That’s a big plus.

explorerx4

@nyccarguy,
I've got a tip for you. After you cross the bridge to Kitty Hawk, look for 'The Woods Rd' on the right.
Don't speed but it gets you around one of the big choke points where people either go North or South.
It brings you back to 154 at a 7-11 and Rte 12 is one road east of that.

jmonroe1

@nyccarguy said:

@qbrozen said:
Got a bare minimum offer on the bimmer and accepted. We’ll see if it goes through.

@nyccarguy will come to regret letting it slip through the first time he has to deal with subie head gaskets. ;b

Your BMW is a great car. I I don’t think it is the right car for my son. At least I would have peace of mind buying the car from you. That’s a big plus.

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Yes, you should have bought it from him. He throws in a lifetime warranty for poster buddies. Too late now.

jmonroe

roadburner

28firefighter said:

Is it weird to say that I like the steering wheel most?

I really like the AMG wheel; the switches and buttons have a precise feel to them and the two touch pads allow you to access dozens of functions and/or adjustments while never taking your hands off the wheel.

fintail

ab348 said:

I didn't know that Ford had changed the IP in the Mustang from the one used in the 2023...



...to this one found in the 2024 model:



Not sure it is an improvement.

Seems familiar. MB did that several years ago on the little A-class:

oldfarmer50

tjc78 said:

Honestly these large screens with everything integrated and software controlled are probably a net savings rather than all separate modules.

Bonus is most consumers love them and they look “fancy”

The huge touch screens in most current Fords are a pain to navigate. I much prefer the simpler intuitive dials and buttons in my older one.

xwesx

I stopped by the dealership tonight. It was recently closed, but man, what a ghost town! There were perhaps twenty new vehicles of all makes on their lots, maybe two dozen used vehicles, and 90% of the space was just empty. It had a very abandoned feel about it.

No Siennas seen, but it is vaguely possible that one could be in the showroom. I couldn't see in from the car. They had a Subaru Solterra on the lot in a lovely red color. I've yet to see one on the road.

au1994

qbrozen said:

Got a bare minimum offer on the bimmer and accepted. We’ll see if it goes through.

@nyccarguy will come to regret letting it slip through the first time he has to deal with subie head gaskets. ;b

Sorry it turned out like this. I really think it would have done well on BaT if they would have allowed the reserve.

qbrozen

@au1994 said:
Sorry it turned out like this. I really think it would have done well on BaT if they would have allowed the reserve.

Both auction houses really did me wrong, IMHO. Considering how two BaT buyers backed out of the Nissan and the one very low sale of the Pajero on C&B, one of them should have said “ok, we owe you one, so we’ll accept this at reserve.”

roadburner

We didn’t get any storms at Casa RB last night- but a tree fell anyway. At least it missed the Wrangler.

au1994

Glad everyone is ok.

Time to fire up the chainsaw!!

qbrozen

close one!

qbrozen

Bimmer buyer can't pay till end of month, but at least made a nonrefundable deposit.

nyccarguy

I’m waiting at the DMV right now. This is so nerve racking!

stickguy

Road test happening I assume.

Don’t worry. Once he passes, it gets even more nerve wracking!

tifighter

@xwesx said:
Whoa! I just checked the dealer website here in Fairbanks, and they list a Sienna Platinum, good color combo, MSRP + winterization (standard here for dealers)...

@tifighter Long shot, but if you decided to bite, I could drive it down to you. We're leaving here on 8/11 for our annual Ohio trip.

(the car would have 2,200 miles upon arrival)

Thanks for the generous offer, Wes. What I learned from a few local Toyota peeps was that Toyota keeps pre sold cars listed on the inventory page, thinking that if a consumer contacts the dealer, then maybe they can sell them a Highlander or something else. Of course, this just angers half of the people that contact them right off the bat. I’m sure it’s fine.

au1994

tifighter said:

@xwesx said:

Whoa! I just checked the dealer website here in Fairbanks, and they list a Sienna Platinum, good color combo, MSRP + winterization (standard here for dealers)...

@tifighter Long shot, but if you decided to bite, I could drive it down to you. We're leaving here on 8/11 for our annual Ohio trip.

(the car would have 2,200 miles upon arrival)

Thanks for the generous offer, Wes. What I learned from a few local Toyota peeps was that Toyota keeps pre sold cars listed on the inventory page, thinking that if a consumer contacts the dealer, then maybe they can sell them a Highlander or something else. Of course, this just angers half of the people that contact them right off the bat. I’m sure it’s fine.

Not just Toyota. I had 6 of my fleet spec F-150’s show up at the dealer a couple of weeks ago and next thing I know they were on their website. Kinda torqued me as they had PO’s against them.

oldfarmer50

stickguy said:

Road test happening I assume.

Don’t worry. Once he passes, it gets even more nerve wracking!

How hard can it be, you’ve seen the caliber of driver on the roads today?

nyccarguy

He passed!

Michaell

nyccarguy said:

He passed!

Oh dear (I mean, congrats!)

Time to find that Outback for him.

tifighter

I finally found a MDX Type S to drive, back to back with a MDX Advance. The S is hard to come by here, with typical ADM in the PNW of $5-10k .For those who do not partake in all things Acura, the primary upgrades are a turbo motor, air suspension vs standard, and brakes. Type S Advance has upgraded massage seats and an upgraded stereo as well.

Dealer had both of these in inventory as CPO units, which was a little surprising, so it seemed like a good opportunity to compare them. Price difference between them was about $8K.

I could feel the torque difference within 100 meters. The torque helps make the 10 speed feel smoother between the shifts, filling in some gaps at lower rpm. With air suspension, body control is sharper of course when in the sport settings, but also softer than the standard car when in comfort mode. On 40 series tires. Then there are the seats - these aren’t the limp air bladders I’ve felt in the Germans. These massagers are Strong. I had to turn the intensity down.

To me, the S gives you a lot over the standard Advance trim car for the price difference. Vs a Q7, assuming MSRP, it is a bargain. Equipped with similar options, you’re looking at a Q7 55 Prestige with the Lux pack for around $10-12k more. But with each dealer getting one or two max around here, they aren’t available at MSRP. Because Honda.

ronsteve

tifighter said:

I finally found a MDX Type S to drive, back to back with a MDX Advance. The S is hard to come by here, with typical ADM in the PNW of $5-10k .For those who do not partake in all things Acura, the primary upgrades are a turbo motor, air suspension vs standard, and brakes. Type S Advance has upgraded massage seats and an upgraded stereo as well.

Dealer had both of these in inventory as CPO units, which was a little surprising, so it seemed like a good opportunity to compare them. Price difference between them was about $8K.

I could feel the torque difference within 100 meters. The torque helps make the 10 speed feel smoother between the shifts, filling in some gaps at lower rpm. With air suspension, body control is sharper of course when in the sport settings, but also softer than the standard car when in comfort mode. On 40 series tires. Then there are the seats - these aren’t the limp air bladders I’ve felt in the Germans. These massagers are Strong. I had to turn the intensity down.

To me, the S gives you a lot over the standard Advance trim car for the price difference. Vs a Q7, assuming MSRP, it is a bargain. Equipped with similar options, you’re looking at a Q7 55 Prestige with the Lux pack for around $10k more. But with each dealer getting one or two max around here, they aren’t available at MSRP. Because Honda.

When I had the RDX in for the timing belt fun last year, they put me in a MDX Type S as a loaner. Even though I have a hard time wrapping my brain around ANYthing at that $75K price point, that's a badass vehicle.

pensfan83

tifighter said:

I finally found a MDX Type S to drive, back to back with a MDX Advance. The S is hard to come by here, with typical ADM in the PNW of $5-10k .For those who do not partake in all things Acura, the primary upgrades are a turbo motor, air suspension vs standard, and brakes. Type S Advance has upgraded massage seats and an upgraded stereo as well.

Dealer had both of these in inventory as CPO units, which was a little surprising, so it seemed like a good opportunity to compare them. Price difference between them was about $8K.

I could feel the torque difference within 100 meters. The torque helps make the 10 speed feel smoother between the shifts, filling in some gaps at lower rpm. With air suspension, body control is sharper of course when in the sport settings, but also softer than the standard car when in comfort mode. On 40 series tires. Then there are the seats - these aren’t the limp air bladders I’ve felt in the Germans. These massagers are Strong. I had to turn the intensity down.

To me, the S gives you a lot over the standard Advance trim car for the price difference. Vs a Q7, assuming MSRP, it is a bargain. Equipped with similar options, you’re looking at a Q7 55 Prestige with the Lux pack for around $10k more. But with each dealer getting one or two max around here, they aren’t available at MSRP. Because Honda.

Your thoughts mimic my own, especially the seats. I wish they at least had the Advance seats (adjustable bolsters/thigh extension) bundled with the A-Spec. The biggest complaint from Type S owners seems to be gas mileage.

mjfloyd1

Maybe this Kenworth is where BMW got the design inspiration for the current generation M3/ M4 grilles??

tifighter

@pensfan83 said:
The biggest complaint from Type S owners seems to be gas mileage.

I wondered about this as well, so I zeroed the trip computer for each test drive. Same 10 mile loop, city and some freeway, and both showed the same number at the end. Not terribly scientific but that’s what I saw.

tifighter

@ronsteve said:
that's a badass vehicle.

I agree.

pensfan83

Well played!

corvette

Congrats to @tifighter on the MDX and to @nyccarguy's son on the license!

I had the new Cooper tires put on the Prius this afternoon and submitted the $50 rebate. I drove it briefly on the (completely dry) interstate, and couldn't tell much difference in noise or ride quality, although it was a brief stretch and I didn't get above 70.

jmonroe1

@nyccarguy said:
He passed!

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Congrats. I know the feeling just don’t let your guard down.

It’s a long story that I’ll have to tell some day.

jmonroe

28firefighter

Congrats, @tifighter ! Well done.

tjc78

@28firefighter said:
Congrats, @tifighter ! Well done.

+1. Nice vehicle!

tjc78

@nyccarguy said:
He passed!

Awesome! Congrats