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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 16,887

    Caddy-- supprised how nice engine/drivetrain were; not sure I like the styling and in the limited drive,CUE was not bad; As was mentioned, after I did drive the dealer had me feel out paperwork for $100 Visa card; Caddy also has 0%APR at least until end of month. T5

    will have to do extended test drive later.

    tom

    Local Caddy dealer was running a radio ad offering a $100 for a test drive. Seemed nuts to just open the door to every mooch in listening range. How did you get your invitation? I missed that. What kind of information do they want on that paperwork?

    $100 for an hour's work driving a car I'd like to try is an easy pay day but I'd feel guilty since I'd probably never buy one.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2004 Chevy Van, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 40,333

    No invite. Caddy running tv ads for this. I went in. Just basic name, address, email. And vin # of a 2004 or newer car you own.

    I spent 10 minutes. Didn't even get the test drive!

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD

  • tifightertifighter WAPosts: 2,701

    My wife seems to have a crush on the Nissan Rogue. She doesn't really care about cars, but has pointed them a few times now all on her own. A 2014 drove past us yesterday and she said "What is that? I really like it." for like the umpteenth time, then was genuinely surprised when I say its a Rogue. Its CUV groundhog day over here.

    18 Tesla X Performance / 18 Tesla 3 Performance / 11 BMW Z4 6MT

  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 20,333

    100.00 to test drive a car? They must be desperate!

    I can't imagine the long lines of strokes that would be standing there!

    Honda once mailed out a bunch of certificates where by test driving a car, they would receive of all things in the mail, a pair of walkie talkies.

    I remember the card that we had to sign were bright yellow and when a "customer" would walk in with a card in their hands, the sales staff would scatter.

    Luckilly we didn't get many takers and I don't believe we sold one car as a result.

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 64,482

    Oh, yeah,..well...... depending on what part of Manhattan. But places like upper west side, or upper east side, no problem. Cars are always coming and going.

    San Francisco is far worse IMO. They use residential permits and brutal levels of enforcement.

    @jayrider said:

    Are you saying that there is street parking in Manhattan ? Pretty amazing.

  • coldinohiocoldinohio Posts: 142

    stickguy:
    Volvo s60 T5 is turbo 5; the 2L is out but not AWD until this fall; so they are really trying to lower inventory

    the Caddy dealer was complaining that someone walked in off the street to get the $100 right then! Then the customer complained and made a scene. The local dealer required ID, Insurance and current registration

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 14,429

    @mrshift

    Many times I'll park on the upper west side and take the subway downtown. You can also park on a lot of the Avenues after 7:00 pm. I think they are trying to enact legislation like in SF & Boston to issue resident parking permits so non residents cant park on the street. In the outer boroughs, there are a lot of people who register & insure their cars out of state (PA, NC, SC, GA, FLA...)

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2017 Pilot Touring AWD, 2019 Tacoma TRD Sport 4WD

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 64,482

    San Francisco's system is screwy. Some residential permits are only good for one block! Now is that ridiculous or what? If you park in a 2 hour zone and don't move, it's $65 fine. If you move your car before two hours, but don't move it an entire block away, it's a $65 fine.

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 14,429

    @robbieg

    Yeah, the hockey bag is big & my son is only 7 1/2. He seems to really enjoy playing. As the kids get bigger, I see people with these body bags. So yes, the pilot will ALWAYS come in handy.

    Back in '09 when I was shopping for a replacement for my wife's (leased) 2007 X3, one of the top things on our checklist was "does the double stroller fit in the trunk with room to spare?" I walked into and out of quite a few showrooms because of that (Audi A4 comes to mind). I was actually a "why would I ever buy an SUV when I can buy a wagon that has a car's driving dynamics?" guy. Once I started shopping modern "sport wagons" with their sexy, sloped rear ends, I quickly realized that wagons weren't for us. Oddly enough I ended up with the TSX because its huge trunk swallowed the double stroller.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2017 Pilot Touring AWD, 2019 Tacoma TRD Sport 4WD

  • breldbreld Posts: 5,460

    Came across this local craigslist listing:

    Frankenstein 5-series wagon

    Crazy, isn't it? Custom color, custom engine, custom trannie. What could go wrong?

    2018 X3 M40i - 2020 Supra - 2020 MINI JCW Hardtop - 2020 Leaf

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 176,566

    @breld said:
    Came across this local craigslist listing:

    Frankenstein 5-series wagon

    Crazy, isn't it? Custom color, custom engine, custom trannie. What could go wrong?

    That's on BringaTrailer.com . You should get it! :p

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 40,333

    @breld, buy it buy it buy it. I love that thing. Nice return on the build. maybe 25%? only thing I don't like is the big sub in the back, and the tint. Both of which are not a huge deal, and fixable.

    never know with these ads, but if this was really done as described, might actually be almost safe since it is all BMW, just a way they never combined parts!

    I might like this thing better than a V8 FrankenVolvo wagon!

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 64,482

    Pretty neat. Guy musta dumped a boatload into that conversion. I wonder how long it's been running with all the new goodies. So it gets 20-25 mpg if you don't put your foot in--in which case, why would you buy such a car? I'd have my boot into the Boschware about 30 seconds after I paid for it. I'd get like 12 mpg on a good day. :)

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 40,333

    12 around town, but just might get the 25 on the highway at 75MPH, with the engine turning over about 1,800rpm in 6th.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD

  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 14,346

    Wow; overall nicely done, I think. I love that color... and the style of the wagon. My reservation? I don't get why anybody would dump that kind of money into a conversion like this and only have 3,000 miles on it, yet be ready to sell.

    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 64,482

    Looks like he went heavy on the window tint, too--but that'll come off easy enough with really hot water.

  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 14,104

    @breld said:
    Came across this local craigslist listing:

    Frankenstein 5-series wagon

    Crazy, isn't it? Custom color, custom engine, custom trannie. What could go wrong?

    I saw that Touring as well; I did some digging and it seems to be a solid car; The owner of UUC Motorwerks had an ace BMW tech install a manual box in an E32 Sport and it is a wonderful car. The E34 was available with a V8 as well as a manual, so the swap would be relatively straightforward. As long as the work was done properly I wouldn't be worried about buying it.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2014 M235i; 2009 Cooper Clubman; 1999 Wrangler; 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 14,429

    @xwesx

    I'm with you. Everything looks just perfect. Too perfect. Nice ride though!

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2017 Pilot Touring AWD, 2019 Tacoma TRD Sport 4WD

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 40,333

    @roadburner, I sent you a PM through the site if you have a minute to take a look.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD

  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 8,069
    edited March 2014

    @breld said:

    Crazy, isn't it? Custom color, custom engine, custom trannie. What could go wrong?

    Really crazy, but it looks like the owner went to great lengths to use OE parts whenever possible. It's almost 20 years old and I'm sure it would be a headache to keep running, but I find it kind of intriguing. I love the color, too. I don't see very many Craigslist cars I'm interested in, but I'd be a buyer at $10k or less.

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 176,566

    Yeah.. $10K for that wagon with an E39 V8 and 6-speed? That would work for me... I don't believe 25 mpg for minute, though... figure 12-15 mpg... at best..

    The really cool thing is you couldn't get a V8 BMW wagon with stick.. so, there is that. At our local cruise-in, there is a guy that converted an E39 wagon to an M5 wagon.... I'd like that one, too... :p

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  • breldbreld Posts: 5,460

    It seems like it could be a hobby for the enthusiast (an enthusiast with lots of money that is).

    I might just have to check this out for the sake of our forum here. :)

    2018 X3 M40i - 2020 Supra - 2020 MINI JCW Hardtop - 2020 Leaf

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 40,333

    I found the thread on BaT and read the comments. Funny thing was someone that posted was from that guys town, and had seen the car outside the BMW dealer while it was being worked on.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD

  • boomchekboomchek Vancouver, BC, CanadaPosts: 5,440

    I've always been a fan of wagons, and this one looks definitely pretty cool and something I'd drive. I'm just curious about the seller's intentions for selling. Are there bugs, or faults with it? Did he just lose interest after finishing the car and is moving onto another project? I'm sure there is more than $15k into this.

    boomchek: driven 10,000+ cars, sold 1000+ cars, owned 50+ cars

  • graphicguygraphicguy Edmunds Poster EmeritusPosts: 12,700

    @breld said:
    Came across this local craigslist listing:

    Frankenstein 5-series wagon

    Crazy, isn't it? Custom color, custom engine, custom trannie. What could go wrong?

    WOW....trying to figure out why someone would actually do this?

    2019 Kia Stinger GT2
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 28,568

    geesh. All that work and money but with a worn-out non-sport driver's seat. :(

    '07 ML63, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '14 Town&Country Limited; '18 BMW X2. 53-car history and counting!

  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 14,346

    @qbrozen said:
    geesh. All that work and money but with a worn-out non-sport driver's seat. :(

    You noticed that too, did you? The "there are 160K miles on the chassis" part didn't shake me much, but I don't get why someone would want to leave the driver seat with that many (clearly visible) miles on it. It's condition looks a hair's breadth from outright unraveling!

    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 28,568

    @[email protected] said:
    The really cool thing is you couldn't get a V8 BMW wagon with stick.. so, there is that. At our local cruise-in, there is a guy that converted an E39 wagon to an M5 wagon.... I'd like that one, too... :p

    Nah. I mean, not unless the diff is too low. My 540 6-spd got in the low 20s in mixed driving, and since this is that drivetrain, I don't see why it wouldn't be similar.

    '07 ML63, '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '14 Town&Country Limited; '18 BMW X2. 53-car history and counting!

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 14,429

    I know we've been down this road before, but the prices on CPO CT200h's seem to be coming down into the low $20K range. This might make an excellent commuter/runabout for my wife in 6 months!

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2017 Pilot Touring AWD, 2019 Tacoma TRD Sport 4WD

  • jayriderjayrider Posts: 3,602

    @nyccarguy said:
    I know we've been down this road before, but the prices on CPO CT200h's seem to be coming down into the low $20K range. This might make an excellent commuter/runabout for my wife in 6 months!

    You don't need to pay the extra cost for CPO -- nothing goes wrong with the CT's or the Prius. The safest used car bet around.

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 40,333

    I played with one at the autoshow. I actually liked it a lot. A drive could be interesting.

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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 170,946

    @stickguy said:
    I played with one at the autoshow. I actually liked it a lot. A drive could be interesting.

    I took a test drive of a CT200h last fall. Nice car, but not all that big inside. Could be an issue for the way nyc's wife will need to use it.

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  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 5,573

    I almost bought one and it is a tight fit in there...very tight and I am only 5'7" and 150...I felt a bit claustrophobic in there to be totally honest. It drove great and all but again, very very snug!!! If you are looking for a sedan, this is not the one to buy!!!

    The Sandman :)B)

    2015 Audi A3 (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2)

  • laurasdadalaurasdada Posts: 3,689
    edited March 2014

    I, too, test drove the CT200 a few years ago. It is a very snug car. But, I liked the interior. IIRC, a bit of road/wind noise. Didn't feel sluggish (nor powerful), hard to drive in electric only mode. Slight go pedal pressure engages the engine. I was intrigued, but the tsunami in Japan made supply quite tight. I wanted to check out the CT with leather, but none were to be had. So, of course, instead I bought the Jag XK! Hey, they're both hatchbacks....

    '13 Jaguar XF, possibly my favorite of all the cars I've owned. But, my '09 Jag XK was a beauty, as was my '05 Acura TL, '88 Acura Integra, '84 Mitsubishi Mirage Turbo & '78 VW Scirocco (my first!). And, of course, the '92 Nissan Sentra SE-R and '95 Saab 900s I bought for the ex... Ok, I like a lot of the cars in my life.

  • laurasdadalaurasdada Posts: 3,689

    Speaking of Jag: Buttons: The XF has 'em and I like 'em! While the touch screen controls much, there are redundant buttons below the screen and on the console below that (as well as the steering wheel). They feel good, not hard plastic, rather feel "rubberized." I'll have to take a closer look, but this just occurred to me this morning, commuting to work. A soft touch is all that is required with delicate feedback to let you know it has engaged. I find this a small feature, but elegant.

    Rotating vents continue to rotate and shift dial continues to rise and retract, in case anyone was wondering!

    '13 Jaguar XF, possibly my favorite of all the cars I've owned. But, my '09 Jag XK was a beauty, as was my '05 Acura TL, '88 Acura Integra, '84 Mitsubishi Mirage Turbo & '78 VW Scirocco (my first!). And, of course, the '92 Nissan Sentra SE-R and '95 Saab 900s I bought for the ex... Ok, I like a lot of the cars in my life.

  • jayriderjayrider Posts: 3,602

    @laurasdada said:
    I, too, test drove the CT200 a few years ago. It is a very snug car.

    Never sat in a CT but had my Prius for 3.5 years and it is very roomy. Better mpg and cheaper but it is a Toyota and not a Lexus so not a prestige brand.

  • andres3andres3 Southern CAPosts: 12,187

    I think the 2014 S4 will keep me from contributing another car to this forum topic for many years. Then again :( some idiot in a Lexus (typical Lexus driver ability) just caused me to have an accident in my new S4. There fault of course, but the damage is in the teens of thousands, and I fear even the Audi authorized body shop won't be able to restore a car I called "Impeccable" for its build and quality.

    '15 Audi S4 quattro AWD Prestige, '16 Audi TTS quattro AWD 2.0T, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion AWD 2.0T
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 14,429

    @jayrider

    I agree with you that it's not worth paying extra for the CPO warranty, but most every used CT at a Lexus dealer with 40K & under miles is going to have it.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2017 Pilot Touring AWD, 2019 Tacoma TRD Sport 4WD

  • carnaughtcarnaught Desert SWPosts: 3,001
    edited March 2014

    Mrs. Carnaught's CT is not as roomy as the 2010 Prius she had but is more luxurious and refined. It much more fun to drive than the Prius, actually sporty. Mechanically, no issues, and she's digging that 46-54 mpg with regular .

  • fintailfintail Posts: 52,256
    edited March 2014

    Wait, a crash already?

    I had an annoyance in my car this evening - driving on a road with construction - a closed lane, but almost no workers, no caution signs. It was pretty dark, and there was a huge bump/dip in the road, with no warning sign - whack! I almost pulled over and complained to one of the likely OT paid members of Bellevue's finest who is always stationed there, probably on the way to a six figure salary. Gotta love our second world quality road standards, and no doubt someone's brother in law got the contract for the project.

    @andres3 said:some idiot in a Lexus (typical Lexus driver ability) just caused me to have an accident in my new S4.

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 40,333

    that sucks for anyone. But especially bad on a brand new car, especially one that nice.

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  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 8,069

    @andres3 said:
    I think the 2014 S4 will keep me from contributing another car to this forum topic for many years. Then again :( some idiot in a Lexus (typical Lexus driver ability) just caused me to have an accident in my new S4. There fault of course, but the damage is in the teens of thousands, and I fear even the Audi authorized body shop won't be able to restore a car I called "Impeccable" for its build and quality.

    That's awful! I hope you weren't hurt.

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 14,429

    @jayrider

    You are right. A new Prius cost the same as a used CT. The mpg difference between the 2 isn't a killer. Either car gets better than the 15.7 mpg she gets driving the Pilot around. The fact that Lexus is a prestige brand doesn't come into play for me.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2017 Pilot Touring AWD, 2019 Tacoma TRD Sport 4WD

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 14,429

    @andres3

    That royally stinks pal! I hope you weren't hurt. Keep us updated on the progress & how it is dealing with insurance...

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2017 Pilot Touring AWD, 2019 Tacoma TRD Sport 4WD

  • graphicguygraphicguy Edmunds Poster EmeritusPosts: 12,700

    @andres3 said:
    I think the 2014 S4 will keep me from contributing another car to this forum topic for many years. Then again :( some idiot in a Lexus (typical Lexus driver ability) just caused me to have an accident in my new S4. There fault of course, but the damage is in the teens of thousands, and I fear even the Audi authorized body shop won't be able to restore a car I called "Impeccable" for its build and quality.

    Andres....man, oh man. I'm really sorry to hear that. Glad you're OK. The car.....sounds like a lot of damage. Probably not for a total, unfortunately. Maybe get something for diminished value, however.

    While I hope it's not the case, before Audi bought mine back, one of the driving factors in their decision was the length of time it took to get parts, which was substantial.

    So, ask them to make a committment for parts acquisition. It could take a while.

    2019 Kia Stinger GT2
  • jayriderjayrider Posts: 3,602
    edited March 2014

    @nyccarguy said:
    jayrider

    You are right. A new Prius cost the same as a used CT. The mpg difference between the 2 isn't a killer. Either car gets better than the 15.7 mpg she gets driving the Pilot around. The fact that Lexus is a prestige brand doesn't come into play for me.

    Local dealer is offering 4k off msrp on any new 2013 Prius. C and V excluded.

    My 2010 just dropped another 3k in value. In 3 years it will make a very inexpensive gift to my granddaughter. At 71, I'll be ready for my first Corvette.

  • rayainswrayainsw Posts: 3,091

    andres3 - Sorry to read about the S4.
    You are OK?

    • Ray

    Damage to vehicles is at least not as bad a damage to people . . .

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  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 14,104

    andres3- Definitely get compensation for diminished value- assuming it is recoverable in your state...

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2014 M235i; 2009 Cooper Clubman; 1999 Wrangler; 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i

  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 14,104

    Well, now my local Fiat dealer is advertising the 2013 Abarth I like for $19,500, which is $7,100 off of the MSRP. I went on Auto Trader and some dealers are asking more than that for used ones. It IS increasingly tempting...

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2014 M235i; 2009 Cooper Clubman; 1999 Wrangler; 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i

  • breldbreld Posts: 5,460

    Wow - that's quite a fun car for under $19.5k. If they're openly advertising that, perhaps there's even a bit more wiggle room? This is definitely one of those circumstances where the new car is a better buy than used.

    Go for it! :)

    2018 X3 M40i - 2020 Supra - 2020 MINI JCW Hardtop - 2020 Leaf

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