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  • ironman87ironman87 Posts: 3
    Just now read your post and had a question if you still check this forum.I have a 2001 Imola Yellow Audi S4 Avant that I purchased new in May 2001.I am about to turn 61 and I have always said that I was going to buy another 911 when I get into my 60's,had a 1971 911 T in the early 70's when I was single.
    I am now looking for a 2006 Carrera S.
    I chipped my S4 at 5000 miles,it now has only 40,000 miles,and I was wondering what differences you have noticed between the two cars in real world driving.The S4 has so much low end torque from about 1500 to 5500 RPM,that you can have plenty of fun before reaching 80 MPH.Thanks.
  • I have a 2005 911 S with 6000 miles. My service light has come on reminding me that service needs to be done in 15 days!

    Are the service intervals based on time or miles, or both. Is it really necessary to have the service done considering the car has low miles. I realize that the car is four years old. Comments.
  • 96redlt496redlt4 Posts: 13
    Hi. I have an 05 997 S coupe. Ready for the 4 yr 40K (even though it only has 11K mile) service. The dealer says it runs about $800. Thius sounds like a rip off to me as the only things replaced per the service manual are air/particle filters and lube oil filter. He says they also put in a fuel system additive, which is not in the manual and I have heard you should not do. All the rest of the cost presumably is 'inspections' . Comments?
  • old911old911 Posts: 3
    Have a Stock 911 Targa with 85K. DME is corroded badly must be replaced but I freak at the idea of buying this from a dealer.....or from a pirate!

    I really need any advice offered as to who to go to for this replacement.

    Also replacing stock muffler with a tuned system.....and wish to use a mildly more aggressive chip in DME to go with the enhanced breathing..Your thought? Thanks-
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 64,490
    You might give a call to an established Porsche parts supplier such as




    to see if they might supply you with a rebuilt DME or steer you to a good reliable supplier. You might also think about joining the Porsche Club of America.

    I'm not a big fan of chipping this model Porsche because I don't think you'll see much effect on a street car with emissions controls in place--they may defeat most of the chip's new mapping attempts.

    The exhaust will probably give you a little boost and that IMO is money better spent. Unless you go balls out and address the entire engine, from where the air and fuel goes in, to the cylinder heads, engine internals and exhaust, I think you are basicallly only messing with one part of a long tube of events so to speak.

    Without independent dyno testing, all chip claims are baseless in my opinion. Also some engine management systems are more responsive to chipping than others.

    Do more research before you spend chip money is all I'm saying. The PCA would be a great source of feedback.
  • old911old911 Posts: 3
    Yes I'm a member of PCA and you remind me that I have heard much of what you've indicated in a PCA discussion at one point over the last few years. You defiantly know your stuff----I've come back down to earth as it were and I'll probably go with stock DME and chip if it can be found, and a decent exhaust. Your exhaust make and model suggestions for this model?
    Thanks very much for your thoughts-have a great 4/5th!
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 64,490
    I experimented on exhaust for my 928 and I found that one has to be careful here because what sounds "nice" at idle or while accelerating through the gears for the first time, might become incredibly annoying on the highway over longer distances. You may want to chat with the folks at Pelican and see what they recommend for your particular use or needs. They may suggest B&B or Fabspeed. I used an Ansa system but I was trying to be very cost conscious, I wasn't really looking for power, just a decent quality, good-sounding system. Some of these stainless steel systems for the 911 can be kind of pricey. It might come out to $100 per horsepower.
  • Thanks for the response. I will check with the dealer in the a.m. regarding the four year check. I just had the oil changed and a break fluid bleed. The cost was $330. So I am sure they will not include them in the service..
  • 96redlt496redlt4 Posts: 13
    Hi. Thanks for your response. I would love to hear some feedback on having service on newer porsches done by the dealer ($800 in my case and 60 miles away) vs $250-300 by a local Porsche mechanic with a good reputation who loves working on the cars. Course I don't get a loaner beater car to drive around Santa Barbara for 4 hrs shopping. Thanks again.
  • This may be too late but I had the 30K check done on my '04 911 cab back in May. Included oil change and filter, new wipers, cabin air filters, check brakes, etc. Cost was $600. Oil change (service manager calls it oil "service" is about $200 at that dealer.

    As for the dealer vs local mechanic, I may just like to waste money but my '04 only goes to the dealer. As I figure it if only the dealer touches it then that removes the possibility of this conversation "your other mechanic screwed this up, I cannot help you." For me it is peace of mind and the service loaner has been a Boxster, a Cayenne, and even a 911 coupe once.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 119,685
    They had an '01 Carrera.... Gray w/black interior.... Nothing extra, but it was a stick... 62K miles...

    Asking price was $27,900.... Seemed pretty reasonble..

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  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    Very reasonable. This is definitely the time to buy...
  • Hello fellow Porsche experts and lovers. I am new to Porsche and new in USA so I need urgent detailed information about maintenance fees please.
    I am planing to finally get my first Porsche and I just came to live to Miami so I would really appreciate advice and feedback from you dear experts about the average annual maintenance fees and normal repairs so I can inlcude it on my yearly budget.
    The car will definitely be a 911 996 model (1999 to 2002 depending on price), convertible and automatic because I plan to use it as my daily driver (consider average 10 - 12000 miles per year).
    Please be son kind to help me with this info before I go car hunting. Any buying recommendation will be highly appreciated as too!!
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 13,154
    That's a yummy asking price! From a Porsche dealer? There's a guy madmanmoo who sells Porsches in Atlanta here on Town Hall. Maybe he can run a VIn and maybe get a service history for you.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2015 Infiniti Q40 AWD, 2017 Honda Pilot Touring AWD

  • dweiserdweiser Posts: 288
    Hi Everyone,
    I had a 2006 911 C4 Cab then a 2008 Boxster. I've been Porsche-less for a while but a 2009 911 White Coupe PDK is being delivered late this afternoon. I'm as excited over it as I was waiting for my 2006 911 C4 to arrive from Germany. This one's only coming from Hilton Head, SC.
  • madmanmoomadmanmoo Posts: 2,039
    I just delivered a '93 C2 964 yesterday. 28k original miles. Polar Silver. Engine sealed up like Fort Knox. Nice ride! Happy man.

    It's pretty unusual for us to find something like.
  • madmanmoomadmanmoo Posts: 2,039
    Grats! You're going to have a blast!
  • I'm new to the forum today, so may have missed some of the replies.
    Buying any used car, you should get as much information as possible.
    PIP (diagnostics readout), service history and CarFax are very helpful in getting to know the car's history.
    I bought a 2003 Cabriolet last year from a Porsche dealer. Paid a little extra, but received the benefit of an extended warranty for piece of mind.
    My car is a weekend driver, so I'm not as good a source of cost. If you go to a Porsche dealer for an oil change and evaluation, expect to spend $200.
    Good luck
  • bcd17bcd17 Posts: 1
    I'm also new to the forum and would appreciate your comments.

    I am considering purchasing a previously owned 911 in the coming months and the dilemma I have is should I buy a 993 (a 1996, 97 or 98) or a 997 (2005 or 06)? While I love the classic model 993, I know the limitations of the air cooled car. I owned a 1987 and had a terrible time with the air conditioning system and also understand that maintenance is more expensive on the older air cooled cars.
    The 997 is a great looking car with more power and advances in the electronics and safety.

    Would anyone/everyone like to comment on the two models and discuss the pros and cons of owning and maintaining each? Thanks!
  • kscctsksccts Posts: 140
    As a 997 owner, I may be a bit biased but to me there is no comparison. As commonly stated, I would buy the newest Porsche you can afford. 997 is light years ahead of the 993 with one exception...aura of air cooled engine. I would definitely buy the 997.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 64,490
    I'd agree, unless you are a fanatic and must have the "feel" of the 993----and there is a difference in feel, most definitely, from a 997.

    I'm not sure a 993 is any more expensive to maintain---I'd guess the other way 'round.
  • just bought a new 2009 911 S
    auto, chrono, plus some extras that I never would have ordered (bose upgrade,heated seats, heated steering wheel, bluetooth, etc.and some that were not included in the package that I would have wanted (sport exhaust) The S package is a nice plus..

    Had 450 milea on it but sold as new never titled.. Not sure that I like the fact that I don't know how it was driven as a demo by several or many shoppers but it seems fine. Oil usage is extreme but within limits posted in manual. Not sure that it was babied during the"break-in period and it will always remain an unknown. it is what it is but I figure it's one hell of a car and will survive the beat-in period...

    Sports Crono was a must especially with the PDK trans... I've found out that it requires a bit of time to get good with it.... I think that it's pretty intuitive with the shifting paddles but you have to be careful not to hit the darn things by accident.

    Anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it...

    I'd appreciate any info you're willing to share...

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 13,154
    Congrats on a beautiful car - It's going to be many years before I can even think about affording one

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2015 Infiniti Q40 AWD, 2017 Honda Pilot Touring AWD

  • I doubt people were pounding on it while test driving (no more than 5500rpm?) ....but the unknown of how it was driven will always be out there....
    Fortunately you bought a car that was "chiseled from a piece of granite".... watch the National Geographic channel on the Zuffenhausen plant and see how the 911 is built... meticulous. I researched the longevity/durability of the 911 for a while before I got mine... buddy of mine has three... an '84 targa (his daughter drives it), a '95 C4 cabrio, and an '08 turbo. He loves them, but has had virtually no issues with his cars.

    I have had my '09 C2 for 4 months... absolutely love it. Manual tran, but has sport chrono which (I agree) is a must... totally different car with it engaged...

    Enjoy your car, but check the oil every time you put in gas.... mine has burned a quart each 1000miles .... which is actually lower than expected.

    Have fun!
  • buylowbuylow Posts: 41
    Yes! Congratulations! You will love the 997, overall the best Porsche built to date. I bought my first Porsche almost 2 years ago - a 2006 base carrera and then went wild. I now have five Porsches from a 356 up to the 997. I love all of them, each has its own personality, but when the wife wants to go on a trip, it's the 997. To me, it's how the cars handle in the turns that make Porsches so great and fun to drive. And, the reliability factor is a big plus.

    I'm curious as to why you decided on a Porsche. Is this your first one?

    By the way, does anyone out there know of a "70 or "71 911 T for sale, in good condition!!!
  • 09 Carrera S using quart about every 500 miles... I'm considering that within limits and I'm checking it even more often than at just fill

    Manual is saying under 4200 rpm during first 2K miles.

    I myself have violated that limitation by accident while playing with the manual side of the PDK trans...I' m still in "learning stage" with the car. I'm done with the car until spring.. Today I filled it and added Stabil and will be setting up a trickle charger up and over inflating the tires etc. as per instructions.

    I negociated the first recommended factory service as part of the purchase and will get that done at around 5K miles next spring...

    Any and all suggestions with regards to "mothballing" the car for about five months will be appreciated...

  • I've been looking at these things for several years but was not suffering for "toys" during the waiting period. Kept looking at the offerings from Porsche every new model year and the 09's proved to be the one with the most positive changes. Hope the changes and improvements turn out to be good changes and improvements...
    Also, Porsche was offering such massive discounts that I didn't think would ever happen again in my lifetime.(I'm getting old) 21K off a 100K car... The dealer gave me what I wanted for my 289 FIA Cobra Roadster and put it on the floor and sold it in a week... They were happy and I was happy.....
    My wife couldn't believe that I didn't go for the vertible but in deference to her and her hatred for convertibles, I went with the coupe.

    anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it...
  • I have a 2009 911S convertible with pdk. Am having a continuing problem with the key not releasing from the ignition. The car does not seem to recognize that it is in Park. When fully and firmly pushed forward so that the transmission display says it is in Park a red information message comes on above the steering wheel saying that the car is not in Park. The steering wheel fully rotates when this happens indicating that whatever locking device is not engaging. The dealer has replaced the ignition but this seems to be the symptom and not the problem. Anyone else experienced this with a 911 or Boxster? Any ideas to resolve? Otherwise the car is great.
  • If dealing with it means standing out on the deserted highway in the middle of nowhere in a rainstorm with no cell service hoping that a flatbed happens to drive by, then count me out. I've had enough flat tires, including one that was totally trashed, to appreciate the simple "pleasure" of changing a tire. A flat tire should not be cause to cancel an entire trip. If you never wander more than 10 miles from your house, it's probably not an issue. I want to drive to Vegas from Colorado, but I'd be concerned that I'd get stranded. If you've ever driven through southern Utah, you know what desolation is. My old VW broke down there, and I can tell you that it was not a pleasant trip. I think a car worth $90K should have a spare, run-flat tires, and/or a tire pressure monitoring system. My 997 has none of the above. By the time you realize your tire is losing pressure there may not be enough left of it to fix. By then you may be driving on those expense rims.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 64,490
    Oh took me a minute to realize you were responding to a very old post.

    Sure I don't mean to sound unsympathetic to people---I could see breaking down in the middle of nowhere as producing a fair amount of anxiety. But we are talking Porsche, and long long odds that you'll be somewhere without assistance nearby and that the pump and sealant will both fail. Sure, it's all possible but for most of us it will never happen. I guess you'd call it "risk assessment". Even the alleged "loneliest road in the world", Route 50 in Nevada, has tow trucks maybe 50 miles away and plenty of traffic and cops to help you.
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