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  • robt1975robt1975 Posts: 8
    Hello! Do you have the numbers for Hawaii, Titanium fwd for 36/10 and 24/10? Thank you!
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 114,159
    robt1975 said:

    Hello! Do you have the numbers for Hawaii, Titanium fwd for 36/10 and 24/10? Thank you!

    24/10 - 59%
    36/10 - 52%

    No regional MF numbers for Hawaii - closest I have is SoCal at .25% for 24 months or 1.00% for 36 months

    $2000 lease cash

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  • cylint1cylint1 Posts: 13
    edited July 2017
    Hello,

    1. Escape AWD SE, 36/12, MA - MF, Lease Cash, Conquest?
    2. Escape AWD Titanium, 36/12, MA - MF, Lease Cash, Conquest?

    Thanks!
  • roman_groman_g Posts: 7
    Hi,
    Can you please post MF and Residual for Escape FWD Titanium, 36 mo / 10K in SF Bay Area?
    Thanks.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Everywhere, USAPosts: 122,996
    cylint1 said:

    Hello,

    1. Escape AWD SE, 36/12, MA - MF, Lease Cash, Conquest?
    2. Escape AWD Titanium, 36/12, MA - MF, Lease Cash, Conquest?

    Thanks!

    0.75% APR and 51% residual
    $3000 lease cash
    Either model.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Everywhere, USAPosts: 122,996
    roman_g said:

    Hi,
    Can you please post MF and Residual for Escape FWD Titanium, 36 mo / 10K in SF Bay Area?
    Thanks.

    1.00% APR and 52% residual
    $2000 lease cash

    Did you get a good deal? Be sure to come back and share!

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  • Can you please post MF and Residual for 2017 Escape AWD Titanium 36/10.5 in Ohio (zip 44281)?

    Thank you in advance for the information! I think a dealership is fudging the numbers.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Everywhere, USAPosts: 122,996

    Can you please post MF and Residual for 2017 Escape AWD Titanium 36/10.5 in Ohio (zip 44281)?

    Thank you in advance for the information! I think a dealership is fudging the numbers.

    0.75% APR and 52% residual
    $3000 lease cash

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  • shotforthshotforth Posts: 8
    Looking for MF for 2017 Escape AWD Titanium 36/15 in Wisconsin (ZIP: 53704) please. Thank you!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Everywhere, USAPosts: 122,996
    shotforth said:

    Looking for MF for 2017 Escape AWD Titanium 36/15 in Wisconsin (ZIP: 53704) please. Thank you!

    0.75% APR
    $2750 lease cash
    47% residual

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  • foxis86foxis86 Posts: 5
    Hi

    Can I get the RV & MF for SE & Titanium for 36 mo / 10k in Orlando, FL

    Thanks for the info!!
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 114,159
    foxis86 said:

    Hi

    Can I get the RV & MF for SE & Titanium for 36 mo / 10k in Orlando, FL

    Thanks for the info!!

    50% and 1.00%

    $2500 lease cash

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  • mjc_487mjc_487 Posts: 6
    Hey, 

    I'm wondering what would be the RV and MF on a 2017 AWD Titanium for Bethlehem, PA(zip 18018)? I'm looking at a 36/10.5 term. 

    Dealer quoted me $28,250 after $3,500 rebate and some negotiation off an MSRP of $32,690. Said the payment would be $435/month with tax included in that number. Does that sound right? 

    Thanks!!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Everywhere, USAPosts: 122,996
    mjc_487 said:

    Hey, 

    I'm wondering what would be the RV and MF on a 2017 AWD Titanium for Bethlehem, PA(zip 18018)? I'm looking at a 36/10.5 term. 

    Dealer quoted me $28,250 after $3,500 rebate and some negotiation off an MSRP of $32,690. Said the payment would be $435/month with tax included in that number. Does that sound right? 

    Thanks!!

    0.25% APR and 50% residual
    $3750 lease cash (or, evidently $3500 in your region)

    Your quoted payment is about $395/mo before adding 10% tax.
    If the adjusted CAP cost was the same as your sale price, I get $335/mo.+tax

    How much is due at signing?
    Did they disclose the adjusted CAP cost?

    $940 isn't a very big dealer discount.

    Did you get a good deal? Be sure to come back and share!

    Edmunds Moderator

  • mjc_487mjc_487 Posts: 6
    kyfdx said:

    mjc_487 said:

    Hey, 

    I'm wondering what would be the RV and MF on a 2017 AWD Titanium for Bethlehem, PA(zip 18018)? I'm looking at a 36/10.5 term. 

    Dealer quoted me $28,250 after $3,500 rebate and some negotiation off an MSRP of $32,690. Said the payment would be $435/month with tax included in that number. Does that sound right? 

    Thanks!!

    0.25% APR and 50% residual
    $3750 lease cash (or, evidently $3500 in your region)

    Your quoted payment is about $395/mo before adding 10% tax.
    If the adjusted CAP cost was the same as your sale price, I get $335/mo.+tax

    How much is due at signing?
    Did they disclose the adjusted CAP cost?

    $940 isn't a very big dealer discount.
    Thanks for the fast reply!

    So it looks like I was mistaken and the lease cash is actually $3250, making the dealer discount slightly better. I confirmed that amount on Ford's website.

    They did not disclose the adjusted CAP cost but said if I took care of the first payment and DMV fees at signing and they come down "close to invoice" I'd be at $399/month after tax (which if I'm not mistaken is I believe 9% in PA?)

    Does something feel off with these numbers or am I just being paranoid? This will be my first lease and I obviously don't want to get screwed.

    Also, 50% seems like an awfully low residual. Am I wrong to think leasing a car that depreciates so much in the first 3 years is a bad idea? I really like the car but don't necessarily have my heart set on it. I also am considering a Mazda CX-5 or a Honda CR-V but neither of those cars have any manufacturer rebates like the $3250 Ford is offering.
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 114,159
    mjc_487 said:

    kyfdx said:

    mjc_487 said:

    Hey, 

    I'm wondering what would be the RV and MF on a 2017 AWD Titanium for Bethlehem, PA(zip 18018)? I'm looking at a 36/10.5 term. 

    Dealer quoted me $28,250 after $3,500 rebate and some negotiation off an MSRP of $32,690. Said the payment would be $435/month with tax included in that number. Does that sound right? 

    Thanks!!

    0.25% APR and 50% residual
    $3750 lease cash (or, evidently $3500 in your region)

    Your quoted payment is about $395/mo before adding 10% tax.
    If the adjusted CAP cost was the same as your sale price, I get $335/mo.+tax

    How much is due at signing?
    Did they disclose the adjusted CAP cost?

    $940 isn't a very big dealer discount.
    Thanks for the fast reply!

    So it looks like I was mistaken and the lease cash is actually $3250, making the dealer discount slightly better. I confirmed that amount on Ford's website.

    They did not disclose the adjusted CAP cost but said if I took care of the first payment and DMV fees at signing and they come down "close to invoice" I'd be at $399/month after tax (which if I'm not mistaken is I believe 9% in PA?)

    Does something feel off with these numbers or am I just being paranoid? This will be my first lease and I obviously don't want to get screwed.

    Also, 50% seems like an awfully low residual. Am I wrong to think leasing a car that depreciates so much in the first 3 years is a bad idea? I really like the car but don't necessarily have my heart set on it. I also am considering a Mazda CX-5 or a Honda CR-V but neither of those cars have any manufacturer rebates like the $3250 Ford is offering.
    You can't look at the residual in a vacuum.

    The CR-V has residual values north of 60% for 36 months, but the base MF is .00200 (converting the Ford APR to a MF gets you .00010).

    Have you test driven any of these? A great deal on a lease is not so great when you don't like the car you picked.

    We are seeing CR-V leases around $400/mo, so the presence of lease cash is negated by the low residual.

    The MF, residual and incentives are all designed to get to a certain payment that the manufacturer believes will move inventory.

    The residual on my Jetta is also around 50%, but since I don't plan to keep it after the lease, I don't much care.

    Did you get a good deal? Be sure to come back and let us know! Post a pic of your new purchase or lease!


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  • mjc_487mjc_487 Posts: 6
    Michaell said:
    Hey, 

    I'm wondering what would be the RV and MF on a 2017 AWD Titanium for Bethlehem, PA(zip 18018)? I'm looking at a 36/10.5 term. 

    Dealer quoted me $28,250 after $3,500 rebate and some negotiation off an MSRP of $32,690. Said the payment would be $435/month with tax included in that number. Does that sound right? 

    Thanks!!
    0.25% APR and 50% residual $3750 lease cash (or, evidently $3500 in your region) Your quoted payment is about $395/mo before adding 10% tax. If the adjusted CAP cost was the same as your sale price, I get $335/mo.+tax How much is due at signing? Did they disclose the adjusted CAP cost? $940 isn't a very big dealer discount.
    Thanks for the fast reply! So it looks like I was mistaken and the lease cash is actually $3250, making the dealer discount slightly better. I confirmed that amount on Ford's website. They did not disclose the adjusted CAP cost but said if I took care of the first payment and DMV fees at signing and they come down "close to invoice" I'd be at $399/month after tax (which if I'm not mistaken is I believe 9% in PA?) Does something feel off with these numbers or am I just being paranoid? This will be my first lease and I obviously don't want to get screwed. Also, 50% seems like an awfully low residual. Am I wrong to think leasing a car that depreciates so much in the first 3 years is a bad idea? I really like the car but don't necessarily have my heart set on it. I also am considering a Mazda CX-5 or a Honda CR-V but neither of those cars have any manufacturer rebates like the $3250 Ford is offering.
    You can't look at the residual in a vacuum. The CR-V has residual values north of 60% for 36 months, but the base MF is .00200 (converting the Ford APR to a MF gets you .00010). Have you test driven any of these? A great deal on a lease is not so great when you don't like the car you picked. We are seeing CR-V leases around $400/mo, so the presence of lease cash is negated by the low residual. The MF, residual and incentives are all designed to get to a certain payment that the manufacturer believes will move inventory. The residual on my Jetta is also around 50%, but since I don't plan to keep it after the lease, I don't much care.


    Okay that makes sense. Is the whole adjusting the MF something they've started doing recently? Because I read an article on here from 2013 that says residual value is the single most important factor to consider when leasing a car. Is that outdated advice? 

    As far as the cars themselves, yes I did test drive the Escape, CRV, and CX-5 (as well as a few other brands) and ultimately narrowed it down to those three. I would be happy with any of them. So I guess it just comes down to which I can get the best deal on. Is $350/month unrealistic for something in this class? 

    Thanks again!!
  • mjc_487mjc_487 Posts: 6
    Michaell said:

    mjc_487 said:

    kyfdx said:

    mjc_487 said:

    Hey, 

    I'm wondering what would be the RV and MF on a 2017 AWD Titanium for Bethlehem, PA(zip 18018)? I'm looking at a 36/10.5 term. 

    Dealer quoted me $28,250 after $3,500 rebate and some negotiation off an MSRP of $32,690. Said the payment would be $435/month with tax included in that number. Does that sound right? 

    Thanks!!

    0.25% APR and 50% residual
    $3750 lease cash (or, evidently $3500 in your region)

    Your quoted payment is about $395/mo before adding 10% tax.
    If the adjusted CAP cost was the same as your sale price, I get $335/mo.+tax

    How much is due at signing?
    Did they disclose the adjusted CAP cost?

    $940 isn't a very big dealer discount.
    Thanks for the fast reply!

    So it looks like I was mistaken and the lease cash is actually $3250, making the dealer discount slightly better. I confirmed that amount on Ford's website.

    They did not disclose the adjusted CAP cost but said if I took care of the first payment and DMV fees at signing and they come down "close to invoice" I'd be at $399/month after tax (which if I'm not mistaken is I believe 9% in PA?)

    Does something feel off with these numbers or am I just being paranoid? This will be my first lease and I obviously don't want to get screwed.

    Also, 50% seems like an awfully low residual. Am I wrong to think leasing a car that depreciates so much in the first 3 years is a bad idea? I really like the car but don't necessarily have my heart set on it. I also am considering a Mazda CX-5 or a Honda CR-V but neither of those cars have any manufacturer rebates like the $3250 Ford is offering.
    You can't look at the residual in a vacuum.

    The CR-V has residual values north of 60% for 36 months, but the base MF is .00200 (converting the Ford APR to a MF gets you .00010).

    Have you test driven any of these? A great deal on a lease is not so great when you don't like the car you picked.

    We are seeing CR-V leases around $400/mo, so the presence of lease cash is negated by the low residual.

    The MF, residual and incentives are all designed to get to a certain payment that the manufacturer believes will move inventory.

    The residual on my Jetta is also around 50%, but since I don't plan to keep it after the lease, I don't much care.

    Okay that makes sense. Is the whole adjusting the MF something they've started doing recently? Because I read an article on here from 2013 that says residual value is the single most important factor to consider when leasing a car. Is that outdated advice? 

    As far as the cars themselves, yes I did test drive the Escape, CRV, and CX-5 (as well as a few other brands) and ultimately narrowed it down to those three. I would be happy with any of them. So I guess it just comes down to which I can get the best deal on. Is $350/month unrealistic for something in this class? 

    Thanks again!!
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 114,159
    mjc_487 said:

    Michaell said:

    mjc_487 said:

    kyfdx said:

    mjc_487 said:

    Hey, 

    I'm wondering what would be the RV and MF on a 2017 AWD Titanium for Bethlehem, PA(zip 18018)? I'm looking at a 36/10.5 term. 

    Dealer quoted me $28,250 after $3,500 rebate and some negotiation off an MSRP of $32,690. Said the payment would be $435/month with tax included in that number. Does that sound right? 

    Thanks!!

    0.25% APR and 50% residual
    $3750 lease cash (or, evidently $3500 in your region)

    Your quoted payment is about $395/mo before adding 10% tax.
    If the adjusted CAP cost was the same as your sale price, I get $335/mo.+tax

    How much is due at signing?
    Did they disclose the adjusted CAP cost?

    $940 isn't a very big dealer discount.
    Thanks for the fast reply!

    So it looks like I was mistaken and the lease cash is actually $3250, making the dealer discount slightly better. I confirmed that amount on Ford's website.

    They did not disclose the adjusted CAP cost but said if I took care of the first payment and DMV fees at signing and they come down "close to invoice" I'd be at $399/month after tax (which if I'm not mistaken is I believe 9% in PA?)

    Does something feel off with these numbers or am I just being paranoid? This will be my first lease and I obviously don't want to get screwed.

    Also, 50% seems like an awfully low residual. Am I wrong to think leasing a car that depreciates so much in the first 3 years is a bad idea? I really like the car but don't necessarily have my heart set on it. I also am considering a Mazda CX-5 or a Honda CR-V but neither of those cars have any manufacturer rebates like the $3250 Ford is offering.
    You can't look at the residual in a vacuum.

    The CR-V has residual values north of 60% for 36 months, but the base MF is .00200 (converting the Ford APR to a MF gets you .00010).

    Have you test driven any of these? A great deal on a lease is not so great when you don't like the car you picked.

    We are seeing CR-V leases around $400/mo, so the presence of lease cash is negated by the low residual.

    The MF, residual and incentives are all designed to get to a certain payment that the manufacturer believes will move inventory.

    The residual on my Jetta is also around 50%, but since I don't plan to keep it after the lease, I don't much care.

    Okay that makes sense. Is the whole adjusting the MF something they've started doing recently? Because I read an article on here from 2013 that says residual value is the single most important factor to consider when leasing a car. Is that outdated advice? 

    As far as the cars themselves, yes I did test drive the Escape, CRV, and CX-5 (as well as a few other brands) and ultimately narrowed it down to those three. I would be happy with any of them. So I guess it just comes down to which I can get the best deal on. Is $350/month unrealistic for something in this class? 

    Thanks again!!
    Not exactly sure what you mean by "adjusting the MF" - banks have always set different MF for different models (and, in some cases, different trim levels), and dealers have always been able to mark up those base rates for extra profit.

    Higher residuals are always better, all else being equal. But, nothing is equal - you have to factor in the MF, the discount from sticker, and any lease incentives to see the full picture.

    $350/mo? Possible, depending on what trim level you are looking at.

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  • save1982save1982 Posts: 34
    edited July 2017
    Hey Michael! Can you provide me with the MF/RES and incentives on a 36/12k Titanium AWD in Nashville TN?
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 114,159
    save1982 said:

    Hey Michael! Can you provide me with the MF/RES and incentives on a 36/12k Titanium AWD in Nashville TN?

    49% and 1.00%

    $2500 lease cash

    Did you get a good deal? Be sure to come back and let us know! Post a pic of your new purchase or lease!


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  • mjc_487mjc_487 Posts: 6
    Michaell said:

    mjc_487 said:

    Michaell said:

    mjc_487 said:

    kyfdx said:

    $350/mo? Possible, depending on what trim level you are looking at.
    AWD Titanium or a CX-5 Grand Touring with a similar MSRP of around $33k
  • Hi, can I get the MF and Residual for a Titanium, 36/10, zip 60120? When you quote the MF, I see an APR....do I just divide by 2400 to get the traditional MF? Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 114,159

    Hi, can I get the MF and Residual for a Titanium, 36/10, zip 60120? When you quote the MF, I see an APR....do I just divide by 2400 to get the traditional MF? Thanks!

    50% and .25%

    $3750 lease cash

    Yes, divide APR by 2400 to get the decimal value of the MF

    Did you get a good deal? Be sure to come back and let us know! Post a pic of your new purchase or lease!


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  • kyfdxkyfdx Everywhere, USAPosts: 122,996

    Hi, can I get the MF and Residual for a Titanium, 36/10, zip 60120? When you quote the MF, I see an APR....do I just divide by 2400 to get the traditional MF? Thanks!

    0.25% APR = roughly .00011 MF

    Did you get a good deal? Be sure to come back and share!

    Edmunds Moderator

  • gemthinggemthing Posts: 2
    Hi! Could I get the MF/RES and incentives for an SE FWD in 22801 please? 36/10 lease. Thank you very much!
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 114,159
    gemthing said:

    Hi! Could I get the MF/RES and incentives for an SE FWD in 22801 please? 36/10 lease. Thank you very much!

    50% and 1.00%

    $2500 lease cash

    Did you get a good deal? Be sure to come back and let us know! Post a pic of your new purchase or lease!


    MODERATOR

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  • vlad_vlad_ Posts: 17
    Hi, can I please get the MF/RES and incentives for 36/10.5 lease for Titanium AWD? I live in NC. Do they have any loyalty incentives? Thanks
  • kyfdxkyfdx Everywhere, USAPosts: 122,996
    vlad_ said:

    Hi, can I please get the MF/RES and incentives for 36/10.5 lease for Titanium AWD? I live in NC. Do they have any loyalty incentives? Thanks

    1.00% APR and 50% residual
    $2500 lease cash

    No info on loyalty

    Did you get a good deal? Be sure to come back and share!

    Edmunds Moderator

  • leasehoustonleasehouston Posts: 3
    edited July 2017
    Can I have the RV and MF for Escape Titanium 36 months 12k lease for Houston, TX? Also, any lease cash or incentives available in July. Thank you!
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