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  • ddeloysddeloys Posts: 1
    We are having the same issues with a V3 Razr and our Volvo XC90 with Volvo For Life. Volvo has stated the exact same solution. Cingular is clueless. Have you come up with any other solutions/work arounds since you originally posted this note?
  • Don't know about Sprint, but today I paired my Verizon Wireless Treo 650 via bluetooth with my 2005 Audi A6. Did it all from the phone. Went to set up devices, nearby devices, waited for Audi MMI to show up, selected it, entered the four digit code. I tried a few, since no one on earth can actually tell you what code to use. For me, the code 1234 unlocked it and paired it up. Still playing with how to sync and so forth, but if you're the kind of person who can learn by doing, that worked for me. So far, this post is the only place on the Internet where you can read how to pair the A6 with the TREO 650. I know 'cause I looked everywhere! Good luck.

    With my 2006 Audi A6, there is a good explanation of setting up Bluetooth cellphones, starting on page 85 of the "Infortainment/MMI" manual -- including (top of page 86): "The Bluetooth PIN is 1234".

    I just upgraded to Verizon Treo 700p (from 2+ year-old Treo 600). Here are steps I went through to "pair" the phone and the car:

    Tapped "Bluetooth" on phone's "Favorite List" (shows up on phone's opening screen) but could also have gone through "Applications" to get to "Bluetooth".

    Selected "on"

    Left name of device as it was (my initials) designated by Palm software when I downloaded old info from computer to new phone.

    Left "visibility" set to "hidden" (that appears to have nothing to do with Audi being able to detect phone; it seems to only mean that other bluetoothers in the vicinity won't pick up my phone's presence).

    Tapped "Setup Devices" and on screen which then appears I tapped "Hands-free Setup".

    On "Add Device" screen (after a few seconds) the Audi appeared and I tapped it's name. ("Show pick list" and the "Nearby devices" might have had to be tapped first).

    Entered same passkey (1234).


    Car kept asking for "SIM Card," but phone had none. Gave up. Drive home.

    Put in SIM Card I had at home. This might not have been necessary. I was making initial attempt in area where my cell phone is not at its best.

    Next day, once I was in decent phone reception area, I turned on Treo 700p. I pressed Telephone button on Audi. Car MMI screen showed that the car system was picking up presence of "Verizon" phone.

    First tried voice entry of my home phone (digit by digit) and successfully called home.

    Didn't notice if "Phonebook" from Treo had downloaded to car and was a lighted-up selectable from "Memory" menu on car screen. Later, did notice it was and that it had my list of "Favorite" phone numbers. Selected one and called it and talked without problem. Received calls fine all day.

    Noticed that I have to turn Treo on (you know, if you have one, it's sort of "on" but screen is blank. Turned it on, hit middle button to keep it on.

    This seems critical. Treo, as you know, turns off, if not used. So, it was turned on and car showed "Phonebook" was lit up and available to be selected. But I didn't do anything and Treo turned off and car said it didn't find any phone. Turned Treo on, hit telephone button on car and again car and phone said hello.

    Made a call. Now Treo stayed on because it was doing something (connecting with car bluetooth system).

  • Can anyone help me? I have the Leux es350 with navigation.I'm able to send and receive calls fine. I can't get the navigation system to give me the choice to not answer the call. It always answers on the first ring. I went into the bluetooth and phone settings,then screen and told it to not answer automatically. It ignores the setting and still answers it.
  • jccai1jccai1 Posts: 106
    Has anyone tried using the Verizon LG Chocolate phone in a 2006 Infiniti G35? Is the phone fully compatible with the car's Bluetooth interface? Thanks!
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  • My wife has a nokia 6102i that she uses in her 2007 Acura MDX with blue tooth. The main problem is that she can’t use the actual cell phone once it is paired with the car’s hands free link. She can only use the phone through the car. When she tries to make a call using the phone (instead of the hands free link) she just gets dead air, no dial tone, and usually the call doesn’t even go through. Additionally, once it disconnects with the hands free link, she can not connect it again without turning off the car and starting it up again. Anybody have any thoughts? Dealer and Cingular Wireless are WORTHLESS. Thanks.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    That's a shame. I bet the dealer uses BT as a selling point when a purchase is being considered. :mad:

    Google "MDX Nokia 6120i" and see if any tips come up. Hopefully someone else has that exact combination. Did anyone in the Acura threads speak up?
  • Ateixeira-
    No reply on Acura yet. Good thought on the Google. Will go try that now. You are SOOOOO right that they use BT as a selling point. Once you are done buying they tell you it doesn't work with every BT enabled cell phone AND, as we have learned, it doesn't work perfectly at all. For example, with Acura BT one can NOT dial from their phone. You have to use the Acura BT voice command. Try doing that with a 2 and 4 year old in the car. Not easy! Oh well... live and learn. Thanks!
  • cyberkeithcyberkeith Posts: 1
    Would someone please explain how a SIM Card can be put in a Treo 700p with Verizon service? I've nearly pulled out all of my hair trying to find a FIX for the bluetooth connection between the Treo 700p (Verizon) and the Audi Q7 with the MMI - I can get it to work, but it constantly repeats soft resets, rendering the phone nearly useless. I have learned that Palm is supposed to provide a Maintenance Release for the Treo 700p during the week of May 28, 2007, which will be the first MR since the phone was originally introduced. Message 337 describes inserting a SIM Card, but, for the life of me, one of the reasons I switched from Cingular to Verizon was to get away from Sim Cards. Therefore, I'd have to conclude that the author of message 337 was having a brain fart when he described the insertion of a Sim Card, OR, it is I who just simply doesn't understand.
  • baxterdownbaxterdown Posts: 36
    It is my understanding that the voice dial feature of the 2007 Audi Q7 BT does not allow you to dial a number via voice. In other words, one cannot say "Dial 212 569 9004" Does anyone know if this is true?
  • sidgriggssidgriggs Posts: 122
    On an LS460 using a Motorola Razr thru AT&T -- How do you set up the phone book so that the incoming caller's name and phone number appear on the nav screen when they call you. I have downloaded all my names and numbers from my phone, set up my speed dial etc. If I make the call, the name & number apppear--but if that same person calls me from that same phone, His name and number do not appear on my screen. I have had an 04 LS 430 with Nav and an 06LX 470, set them up the same way and could see the name and number on the screen when one of my contacts called me. I also remember reading something about a "1+" set up, but can't find it. Help, Please!
  • mannaciomannacio Posts: 1
    From the messages I've seen on this site, and other forums, it's as though people have forgotten or didn't know Bluetooth is a trademark for intellectual property licensed to the auto industry, phone manufacturers and others with the explicit understanding that Bluetooth devices be interoperable. When auto manufacturers post "supported phones" on their website they are, in my opinion, in violation of their agreement with the Bluetooth Organization. I have become something of an activist on this issue after an unbelievable experience with my 2007 Infiniti M35. After 4 months of ownership, with no problems, my entire console froze up on a trip back from Ashland OR to the SF Bay Area. This meant I had no radio, no CD player, no navigation system, no ability to change the temperature or the fan speed. I immediately went to my dealer when I got back and they had to consult with their engineers who said it was my AT&T 8525 that caused the problem. This phone was not on their list of supported phones. They did offer to buy me a new phone but there are no phones I could have gotten with Bluetooth, MS Office Mobile, a full slide out keyboard, Wi-Fi and a camera. So I adamantly refused and escalated the problem to senior management at Nissan. Suddenly, when faced with the potential for bad press, they agreed to fix the freeze up. An engineer had a CD on his desk which would change the programming of my console and avoid another freeze up. BUT they still wouldn't guarantee the continued operation of the phone. I since learned that many carmakers have websites which tell you what phones they "support". Some, such as Toyota even have legal disclaimers that imply that, should you use any other phones, they will bear no responsibility for whether the phone works or not. You'll have to call your phone maker. This is not only hostile to the users of Bluetooth phones it puts many of us in the position of having to choose between a car and a phone. And it is all being done despite the agreements these companies have signed with the Bluetooth Organization. My view is encapsulated in a movie quote: "We're mad as hell and we're not going to take it any more". I would ask anyone who has had compatibility issues between a Bluetooth Certified Hands Free phone and their car, especially those the carmaker refused to resolve, to contact the Bluetooth Organization. There is a complaint form that can be found at:

    Your topic should be Brand and Trademark violations, because that is what this is all about: No interoperability or support for it and you should not get the trademark. Please feel free to pass this along to others who may have complaints too as well as any media that have an interest in the story.
  • sidgriggssidgriggs Posts: 122
    Can you answer the question I posed in my posting #346?
  • mdchachimdchachi Posts: 275
    Does it matter if you're moving or not? I notice some Toyota vehicles restrict the display when you're moving.
  • sidgriggssidgriggs Posts: 122
    Moving or not--still no display of both name & number. I have had 2 prior Lexus with Nav & Bluetooth--they would/did display name & number on anyone who was in my phonebook (both my car and my cell have the same phonebook).
  • mdchachimdchachi Posts: 275
    > When auto manufacturers post "supported phones" on their website they are, in my opinion, in violation of their agreement with the Bluetooth Organization.

    What is your reasoning here? Many phones are not properly compliant with Bluetooth standards or have bugs in their software. If they don't work, they don't work. Also, there are different versions of Bluetooth and even the standard itself has various gray areas that leads to implementation differences.

    It's not "hostile" to users of Bluetooth phones. It's trying to deal with the real world. Some phones work and some phones don't.

    Now, your particular problem of the whole system freezing up is not a Bluetooth issue. A non-supported phone no matter what it does should not cause your entire system to freeze up. That's a software quality issue.
  • kpanekkpanek Posts: 2
    Hello Mannacio. I'd like to ask you for help.
    Have the same experience with Mercedes-Benz. We bought 3 luxury SUVs from them. They list "recommended phones" for their "Mercedes-Benz Bluetooth(R) (SAP) Telephone Module, Version 2" in official materials for the Czech Republic: 13 of 20 are NOKIAs, remaining 7 models just to cover-up Mercedes' NOKIA preference as those are out of reality: "VERTU" not sold at all in CZE afaik and, "SIEMENS" which is terminated brand as everybody in the biz knows.
    Mercedes representatives end up with indistinct statements or irrelevant excuses and I suspect them that they've explicitly (per-customer) blocked SONY ERICSSONs specificaly (car I've tested doesn't operate with any high-end SE model, including Z610i, P990i, etc.)
    It is likely that Mercedes is manipulating its customers and limits their "Bluetooth(R)" support artificially.
    I've found the form before your article and sent complaint there. But I wonder if you have identified particular article in Bluetooth member agreements / materials ? Do you have some further tips or experience?
    I'm attaching corresponding Mercedes-Benz material in English:
    I'm about to become an activist in this as well :-) Any message from you to my e-mail karel.panek vortex will be appreciated!
  • kpanekkpanek Posts: 2
    mdchachi, your opinion is incorrect. The problem stands in the fact, that vehicle manufacturer artificially limits its "Bluetooth(R)" support not due to technology (e. g. bluetooth device type or version), but based on its specific mobile phone brand preference. This could imply great harm to Bluetooth(R) brand itself according to my opinion. In my way of thinking such behavior of car manufacturer is manipulative, inadequate, unacceptable and perhaps illegal.
  • mdchachimdchachi Posts: 275
    You are stating conjecture, not fact. Do you have any evidence to support your conjectures?
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  • Anyone know a lot about Bluetooth Car kits. I am looking to compare between BlueConnect and Parrot. Are these any good ? Is there anything better ?

  • nortsr1nortsr1 Posts: 1,060
    I just read that the dealership must drain the oil of the CFC and pour some type of silicone type fluid into same into the engine and RUN same for at least xxx minutes to fully disable the engine (which the article states will cost the dealership approx. $30.00).
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