Mystery car pix

fintail

Yep, I see it, maybe a couple other 63s in the lot, too. I was hoping to spot a fintail, but I guess those were never very common.

bhill2 said:

On the right, about 5 rows back in the photograph, just to the left of the '58 Ford and facing the camera is a '63 Plymouth.

andys120

fintail

License plate prefix would be 1969, I think.

Michaell

fintail said:

License plate prefix would be 1969, I think.

Probably - our '67 Squareback had plates that started with VVG...

andys120

Yup, it's a 1969 _____

texases

1602?

andys120

texases said:

1602?

That's right, it's a '69 BMW 1600, now popularly known as the 1602. It was BMW's Austrian-born US importer, Max Hoffman who convinced them to offer the two-door sedan with the 2 liter engine from their four door, setting the stage for their success in the American market.

ab348

Here are a couple of sequential pictures taken at the corner of Mandeville Canyon Rd. and Sunset Blvd in 1974 from the Ruscha collection at the Getty. A bit of an unusual thing to come on by chance.

andys120

Old cars in right lane appear to be Model A Fords from the late 20s/early1930s. probaly from an owners club cruise. First car in left lane is a 1969 Pontiac Firebird .

stickguy

Looks like a 75 Chevelle Laguna S3 a few back from the As.

Top pic, a big white Benz convertible next to a Jeep CJ.

omarman

Type 3 squareback at top left side.

fintail

Model A in front is probably a 31 with the colored upper grille section.

MB next to the Jeep is a W111 (could be a 112, but those are pretty rare).

andys120

stickguy

Camaro IROC Z. Not sure how to tell what year on one of these, but will guess 88? to the left, the very tail end of a Firebird, about a 1973.

andys120

stickguy said:

Camaro IROC Z. Not sure how to tell what year on one of these, but will guess 88? to the left, the very tail end of a Firebird, about a 1973.

AFAIK there isn't a good way to tell MY on that gen Camaro. FYI- it's a 1987 Chevy Camaro IROC Z28.

IROC=International Race of Champions, a race series featuring top-level drives in identical Camaros which ran 1974-2006.

Michaell

andys120 said:

stickguy said:

Camaro IROC Z. Not sure how to tell what year on one of these, but will guess 88? to the left, the very tail end of a Firebird, about a 1973.

AFAIK there isn't a good way to tell MY on that gen Camaro. FYI- it's a 1987 Chevy Camaro IROC Z28.

IROC=International Race of Champions, a race series featuring top-level drives in identical Camaros which ran 1974-2006.

Didn't IROC start with 911's as the spec car?

Yep - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Race_of_Champions

Turns out the Dodge Avenger (!) and Dodge Daytona were also used in select years.

stickguy

I remember watching the Iroc back then. Including the porsches.

Michaell

stickguy said:

I remember watching the Iroc back then. Including the porsches.

Me, too - I enjoyed the bright colors they used on the cars, but felt it advantaged the NASCAR folks a bit too much.

Now there is a Race of Champions series, which is more international in flavor. And, uses different types of cars, to make the competition more, er, competitive.

omarman

That wiki link for IROC states, "It was run with a small field of 12 invited drivers. It was created and developed in 1972 by David Lockton, the developer of the Ontario Motor Speedway, launched in 1973, with Mark Donohue being the first driver to win the championship in 1974. The cars used that year were Porsche Carrera RSRs. Donohue's win in the fourth and last race of that season was his last win, as he died in a Formula One crash at the Österreichring in practice for the 1975 Austrian Grand Prix."

There was a race track marshal killed by the debris from Donohue's accident during a practice session for the '75 Austrian Grand Prix held on August 17. Donohue survived the crash and wasn't admitted to Graz hospital with a headache until the next day. He died after surgery on the following day Aug 19, 1975.

That's what made Mark Donohue's death so shocking to me back then. I didn't even hear about his hospital admission until he died following surgery 2 days after the race. Peter Revson died just the year before.

andys120

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andys120

Newest cars visible are 1960 Plymouths parked on left in row closest to store. The black sports ragtop to their right is a Jaguar XK-120/140/150.

magnette

British Ford 100E - a four door so a Prefect - parked directly under the letter O

texases

@andys120 - do you have your left and right rerversed?

fintail

Car under the "S", to the right of a 59 Ford, resembles a 4cyl MB Ponton - a bit of foreign content in this pic.

imidazol97

1958-1960 Lincoln, between the 57 and 59 Fords in back row under the "L."

ab348

Garland, TX, early 1960s. Expands to a huge size. I don't see none of those funny little furrin cars here, Bubba. :laughing:

stickguy

The 60 Ford and the falcon parked next to each other. Convenient. Late 50s rambler wagon next to them.

tmart

57 Ford County Sedan at far right. Another 57 Ford under the furniture sign. It’s head on so I can’t tell whether sedan, wagon, or convertible.

tmart

andys120 said:

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Three 59 Fords, a 57 Ford, and a 54 Ford.

andys120

texases said:

@andys120 - do you have your left and right rerversed?

Doh! Yeah the Jag and the Plymouths are to the right!

imidazol97

Picture is from late 1961 or 1962 since there's 1962 Oldsmobile under the Atlantic & Pacific sign next to the Dodge.

There are a surprising number of Falcons in this picture.

Michaell

ab348 said:

Garland, TX, early 1960s. Expands to a huge size. I don't see none of those funny little furrin cars here, Bubba. :laughing:

We used to have a TG&Y in my hometown, when I was a kid.

andys120

Oldest car is either the '59-'51 GM(Chevy/Pontiac?) parked next to a '59 Poncho on right unless it's the old Nash with an outside spare on left.

bhill2

Gotta be the Cheviac (Pontvy?). In that period Nash Ramblers didn't have chrome on the tail lights. I'm not pleased that I know that.

ab348

Some interesting cars to spot here and an interesting pic of what was once a major national brewer, now long gone. Early 1960s, Dallas, TX, pic expands to a huge size.

kyfdx

Falstaff... ugh..

andys120

Sole import in this mid-60s photo would be the black VW toward left on street. Oldest car might be the Willys wagon peeking out from wagons parked on left. Newest? '64 Ford Fairlane
in middle of cars parked behind fence.

I'm old enough to rember Falstaff Beer (originally made in Chi?).

ab348

kyfdx said:

Falstaff... ugh..

I remember their magazine ads, but never had a chance to try one.

fintail

No 60 Fords? Sad. Guess I'll pick off the 59 Impala flat top sport sedan and the 58 Fairlane (real hardtop and not a faux hardtop?) to its left.

magnette

Nearest car in the yard looks like a Dodge Coronet and I am guessing a 1956

I don't think we ever had Falstaff Beer here...

tmart

54 Ford, 58 Ford, 59 Ford.

fintail

Disneyland, 1955, I see my pick at left, middle-background (zooms in clearly):

tmart

51 Ford, 49/51 Ford, several 52/54 Fords, 55 Thunderbird, possibly two, 55 Ford

stickguy

White nomad next to the 300SL gull wing.

andys120

I'mstruck by how few pickups are visible. Can't find the Nomad or Gullwing.

In the foreground are all Oldsmobiles, light-colored sedan w sunshade is a '49-'51. I think that's a '53 turning towards camera. The approaching ragtop looks like a '49-51 Ninety-Nine.

fintail

Zooming helps for this one, Nomad with gullwing to its left are in the 7th row from right, left side.

The Beetle at left was still a pretty exotic thing in 1955 USA, too.

imidazol97

fintail said:

No 60 Fords? Sad. Guess I'll pick off the 59 Impala flat top sport sedan and the 58 Fairlane (real hardtop and not a faux hardtop?) to its left.

I think it's a faux hardtop (club sedan). I had a 57 Fairlane fake hardtop. On the green hardtop,
look at the right side window edgings through the car--the left side has the driver window rolled down.

fintail

Good spotting, you can definitely spot it better than me. Pretty good fake hardtops, gotta give them credit.

imidazol97 said:

I think it's a faux hardtop (club sedan). I had a 57 Fairlane fake hardtop. On the green hardtop,

ab348

Love Field in Dallas. Pic is undated at the source but appears to be late 1950s. Expands greatly.

stickguy

Edsel coming down the center aisle.