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  • lhylhy Posts: 48
    My Nissan tranmission was an automatic. It was leaking fluid and slipping gears.

    I've heard that the tranmissions in Mazdas like the 626 were not good. They have Ford powertrains I believe.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 22,647
    Specifically, it was the auto trans mazda got from Ford to put in the 4-cyl 626. The stick, V6 auto, and V6 stick were all fine.

    '17 F150 Crew 2.7; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '09 LR2 HSE. 44-car history and counting!

  • delthekingdeltheking Posts: 1,152
    Thanks for the info.I didn`t know about that.Next time I will email the host directly! :shades:
  • delthekingdeltheking Posts: 1,152
    Best non Japanese used cars-right now would be Hyundai/Kia.Great bang for the buck.
    The newer Hyundais/Kias-2005 and above are pretty good in reliability.Avoid the older ones.
    1 or 2 year Hyundais/Kias are a great deal if buying used--good price with 5yr/60k mile warranty intact.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 22,647
    Can't say I necessarily argue.
    Although I expand my list a bit. I think the Focus and Saturns are decent for the money, too. And lets not forget the Chevy Prizm, which is a Corolla underneath (although I suppose that technically makes it a Japanese car). :)

    '17 F150 Crew 2.7; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '09 LR2 HSE. 44-car history and counting!

  • lilengineerboylilengineerboy Posts: 4,116
    Specifically, it was the auto trans mazda got from Ford to put in the 4-cyl 626. The stick, V6 auto, and V6 stick were all fine.

    Wait, stop, reverse that...the auto trans was a Mazda unit, not a Ford.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 22,647
    Nope. The 4-cyl auto was Ford's CD4E transmission.

    '17 F150 Crew 2.7; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '09 LR2 HSE. 44-car history and counting!

  • lhylhy Posts: 48
    I thought that the 5yr/60K bumper-to-bumper warranty was not transferrable, and that only the 10 year/100K powertrain could be transferred to another owner?

    I think there many be a lot of fine print involved in the warranty details like the original owner being required to follow the recommended maintenance schedule at a Hyundai/Kia dealership--or else it voids the warranty.

    Also, which particular Hyundai and Kia models are recommended?
  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 5,712
    It's the other way around. The 10/100 powertrain is only for the first owner. The 5/50 bumper-to-bumper is transferable.
  • With out a doubt Hyundai. With all the safety features and the warranty you can't miss.
  • delthekingdeltheking Posts: 1,152
    All late model Hyundais /Kias 2006 and above are terrific value.But the base Accent and Rio ,, I think ,do not have the ABS ,though.
    A used 06-07 Hyundai Sonata is a great bargain,, a good sized sedan,good reliability and fuel economy!!
  • plektoplekto Posts: 3,738
    GM has a 100K warranty that is transferable. And GM cars depreciate almost as quickly as Hyundais.
  • My daughter just bought a 2009 Sonata V6 and is getting 37 mpg on the highway!!!!
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 19,809
    Yes, used Hyundais can be a great value because of the horrible resale values! Just don't buy a new one unless you plan to keep it a very long time!
  • lhylhy Posts: 48
    What are repair and maintenance costs like on Hyundais or Kias?

    Are these costs more expensive compared to other imports or domestic cars?

    And are there problems finding mechanics (other than Hyundai dealerships) who know how to fix Hyundais/Kias?
  • asafonovasafonov Posts: 403
    The G20 is the Infiniti version of the Nissan Sentra.

    Primera, actually - a somewhat larger FWD platform, available in Europe as a Nissan. I had both an older Sentra and and a G20 (both manual), and the drives could not have been compared (G20 much nicer.)
  • steff1steff1 Posts: 1
    I am in the process of searching for a used vehicle for my daughter. She wants something sporty. Price range of 7000-9000. We have been looking at Chrysler Sebrings (2004) any one have any advice? Thank you
  • lilengineerboylilengineerboy Posts: 4,116
    I am in the process of searching for a used vehicle for my daughter. She wants something sporty. Price range of 7000-9000. We have been looking at Chrysler Sebrings (2004) any one have any advice? Thank you

    That would likely not be it.

    Do you have an age range or mileage constraints? Are any features manditory? You might be interested in anti-lock brakes, stability control systems, and various air bags to help young drivers stay out of trouble and mitigate injury should it be necessary. Does it need to be a sedan? Automatic or manual? Do you have a target fuel economy in mind? Does it snow where you live?
  • plektoplekto Posts: 3,738
    Used Lexus IS300.

    Nothing's going to be more reliable and provide a "European" type feel that's just right for the average driver. I't's the only car in the last 5 years or more that I drove and it reminded me of the old 1990s Volvos. Tight, controlled, and a great car to drive.

    The IS250 is underpowered and pricey for what it is.
    The IS350 is more of a muscle car - it doesn't have the same light on its feet feel as the older IS300.(plus is hugely expensive, even used)
    Good example. Built to last 15-20 years, so 7-8 years old isn't a problem at all.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 22,647
    She wants something sporty.... We have been looking at Chrysler Sebrings

    Huh. Ummmm..... huh.

    Sooo... when you say "sporty" you obviously have a very different definition than me. Can you be more specific?

    '17 F150 Crew 2.7; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '09 LR2 HSE. 44-car history and counting!

  • fezofezo Manahawkin, NJPosts: 10,333
    Unless you are talking about a Sebring convertible I don't think there's any case to be made for a Sebring. There's one thing to be said for a Sebring convertible - the top comes down. Actually if you can find one of those cheap they're OK for what they are because they are pretty much their own market.

    I have a soon to be licensed driver who I may be buying for. Right now my plan is for her and I to split two cars - our Ody van and my Celica convertible. If I could find a cheap Mazda 3 or some such thing maybe I'll yield...
    2013 Mazda 5 Grand Touring, 2010 Toyota Prius IV. 2007 Toyota Camry XLE, 2004 Toyota Camry LE, 1999 Mazda Miata
  • morin2morin2 Posts: 399
    Can't recommend a Sebring. There are more great used cars to choose from than ever before. I'm partial to subarus. An Impreza would be more responsible for a new driver than the WRX - which it resembles. A used Corolla or Camry would be a good choice but not sporty. How about a Vibe/Matrix? - its basically a sporty Corolla wagon... I think a Malibu Maxx, a car you rarely see recommended, could be a darkhorse bargain candidate - if it has been fully checked out by a mechanic and is cheap enough. There are many others and as always, condition is everything, so get a carfax and bring it to your mechanic.
  • Unlike buying new cars, how would you find out if the dealer's price for a CPO car is just right and is not inflated? For new cars, there's Edmunds to find out the TMV and a bunch of other sites where you could find out the invoice price.

    How about for used cars? Besides KBB, how and where would you start negotiation? It would be impossible to compare the same models because the trim level is not always disclosed.

    As an example, we're trying to buy a 08 RX350 CPO starting at 31,999. To start, should I undercut this price by 3K?
  • morin2morin2 Posts: 399
    Do you realize there's $5000 marketing support on the new 09 RX350? People are getting into these brand new for under $30K. This is one of those cases where it makes no sense to buy used. In addition, the interest rate will be lower on the new car than the used one.

    If you offer 3K less than 32K for this used RX350, the salesman would set the hook and you would have paid about the same for a used vehicle as for a brand new one. The way people drive today and abuse their vehicles with jackrabbit starts and hard braking, used vehicles are only worth the risk if they are very cheap. Every used car cost the dealer something different and you have no idea what that is. Unless you are a professional negotiator by trade, you will be at a significant disadvantage. I would take 3 days minimum to negotiate for this car and would not pay more than 22-23K with the known risk of walking and allowing it to become a lot queen.

    Are there no new ones around you? The incentives are listed as expiring 7/6/09 which is monday. There is no way of knowing if they will be extended. The salesmen don't know either, so the playing field is level.
  • No, I didn't know the new ones had a $5K adv support. Since I see a lot of those here in Dallas, I figured they didn't need the incentive to move them .Is that cash to dealer or cash to customer?
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 10,695
    "...used vehicle for my daughter. She wants something sporty...looking at Chrysler Sebrings (2004)..."

    In considering the advice you receive here remember that when you say "sporty" to the mostly male members of this board, they think in terms of performance and handling, not looks. So a sporty car for guys might be pug ugly to your daughter.

    I must admit a bias in favor of Chryslers. They do have a lot going for them in the looks department. Reliability is as good as any domestic and in my experience somewhat cheaper to fix.. I have owned several including a Cirrus which was later re-named Sebring in the four-door version.

    For 2004 you have 3 Sebring choices. The sedan which is a newer version of my Cirrus. Reliable transportation. You also have the Sebring convertible which I don't think is sporty looking but young people like those drop tops. Finally you have the Sebring coupe which I think is the most sporty looking of the three. The coupe is based on the Mitsubishi Eclipse and most of the mechanical parts are identical.

    None of the Sebrings is a "sports" car but should be able to provide safe, reliable transportation with good looks. Good luck shopping and please come back and tell us how everything goes. :)

    2015 Mustang GT, 2009 PT Cruiser, 2004 Chevy Van

  • igozoomzoomigozoomzoom Waleska, GeorgiaPosts: 801
    Sporty- how about a sporty 4-door like the Nissan Altima? A 2004-2005 could easily be found for under $9k. They look sharp and they're reliable.

    For 2-doors, I'd look at the Honda Civic Coupe and Toyota Celica. Even a well-maintained 2002-2003 Acura RSX would be a very good choice.
    2015.5 Volvo S60 T6 Drive-E Platinum, 2012 Mazda CX-9 GT
  • morin2morin2 Posts: 399

    According to the Edmunds incentives page, the $5000 marketing support - cash to dealer, went from 6/02/09 through 7/06/09. There should be no problem finding a dealer passing this savings on to the buyer. Check again in a few days to see if this continues after the 7/06 date.
  • elburnelburn Posts: 4
    Need to purchase a vehicle for my 16 yr old son. Unfortunately do not have a lot of money to do so--about 4K. What would you suggest? Purchase from private seller and stay away from dealers? I absolutely do not care if it is sporty--if fact prefer it not to be! Priority is on saftey and reliability. (of course this is from a mom) :)
  • morin2morin2 Posts: 399
    Actually, paying less is the right way to go for your son's first car because you will be able to buy liability-only insurance for it. Full coverage is unaffordable for a new teenage boy, so you want a cheap, reliable and safe car. When my son was 17, 4 years ago, he got my '94 subaru legacy - which has been a great car and he is still driving it going into his last year of college. And it is still reliable enough with 153K miles on it that he just got home late last night from a 900 mile trip. I think its a mistake to give them the car - he paid me for it, and I have taught him to maintain it. The deal I made with my 16 year old daughter was that she would get a car if she got all A's her first 3 years of HS - which she did, so I gave her my 2002 Chevy Prizm. In hindsight, that may have been a mistake, because, having cost her nothing, she does not value it and treats it poorly.

    Many will tell you to get a corolla or civic and i will say that those models are in too much demand to be worth the inflated used car prices. The condition is more important than the label. Have it fully checked out by a mechanic - best $50 to $100 that you will invest before getting down to negotiations. Don't fall in love with any used car for sale. I am subaru-biased, but I think a subaru impreza with the 2.2 engine only is a great used car buy. It has the AWD for safety - many kids crash in single car accidents when they lose control - so control is most important (that is why the very worst vehicle for a new driver is a small pickup truck). Look for a 99-01 Impreza with the 2.2 only. Mazda protege and Chevy Prizm (same car as the Corolla but cheaper) of same years. Even a well cared-for Chevy Lumina, saturn SL-2, Volvo 240, 740, 940 - if you have it fully checked out. If you have a regular mechanic, talk to him - some mechanics have excellent used cars for sale or can recommend one. If you don't have a regular mechanic, I have had great luck with this site (my son found a wonderful mechanic 2 miles from his college using this site:
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