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Lexus ES 350

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  • teemmbteemmb Posts: 1
    I have 500 Miles on my ES350, bought in May, I find that when I brake for a stoplight (not hard), when it downshifts from 2nd to first gear, it hesitates, then the tach goes from 1200, to 800 to 1200 then down back to aprox 600-800. This causes a small (but noticable) lurching while braking. I also have a little bit of lag between 3rd and 4th upshifting. I have not taken it to dealership yet, don't want to feel like a complainer. Anyone else notice this? First time Lexus owner, had Buick previously.
  • kewl1kewl1 Posts: 11
    Got my 350 on 8 June. Just now hit 600 miles and I have noticed the exact same thing when it starts down shifting as I slow for a light. It isn't that big of a deal, but it sure is irritating. It certainly isn't something I would have expected from this car. I haven't noticed the lag between 3rd and 4th, but will look out for it tomorrow on the drive to work.
  • gkoffgkoff Posts: 36
    Yes the transmission problem has been resolved. Dealer put new transmission in and installed new software. That took 3 days but they had it a week and a half longer to get rid of various noises. That was successful also. Now I can call it a Lexus instead of a Defectus.
  • "Throttle Lag - The worst I have experienced in any car. Dealer says "that's just the way it is"

    "Handling - Car is very "soft" in steering and handling. Again, the Auroras were much more precise and stable when going around curves. However, the dealer did warn me about that and told me I would have to buy a Cadillac to achieve that type of steering/suspension."

    WOW, i was on here when we were looking at cars. We test drove the 350 and experienced the samething, the handling was just like driving a "Big Old Loose Park Avenue" it was atrocious!! it had way to much understeer.

    I could not bring myself to buy this car, i thought that the wood trim was sub par from the 05 models as well.

    I endeed up with a BMW. drives great and so far no problems what so ever. Was surprised of this because i have had plenty of problems with other BMW's i have had. Bmw is steadly driving up Reliability on it's cars. If BMW keeps up how they are going then i will go back to them. Can't justify a car in the 350 price range that looks and drives "Slightly" better than a Camry.
  • We just bought a Black Saphire ES350 for my wife. So far we love it! It's a little smaller in the back seat than the Avalon we traded in but otherwise it is much nicer. The interior is hushed, ride is smoother without the level of noise going over bumps, and the driving is smooth! Really love the soft leather seats. I personally like the softer ride. I don't think it looks like a Camry from the front or the back and prefer its style. I have the premium/plus with NAV package and it is more than I need. Only thing I would improve is the stereo. It is just ok. Our Avalon had the JBL and it was significantly better in my opinion. Still, I much prefer the ES so far!

    Michael
  • joedejoede Posts: 2
    I bought my ES 350 on May 18th, 2007, when slowing down by lightly pressing on the brake pedal, the car speeds up (lurches forward) when changing gears (down shifting) in the automatic mode. The tack jumps up 200-400. This requires increasing the pressure on the brake pedal, to slow down or stop the car. This occurs just above 20 mph. Some of the other gears are also not very smooth on downshifting. I have taken it to the dealers, and I drove with the mechanic. He understands what I describe, but says the transmissions vary, depending on how you drive the car. I drive very normally, with steady pressure on the gas pedal, and without any jerky motions. He is going to report it to quality engineering in California. Hope you guys report this problem through your dealer, so that it gets some attention. Possibly fixing the other transmission problems through software programing created this new software bug.
  • frostyrfrostyr Posts: 20
    Have owned mine for 1 year. Frankly I think that the car is a little better than mediocre. It does get great mileage though. Next time I will give a lot of consideration to an American car. This car is overrated.
  • After waiting for several months, Lexus finally confirmed (via 800 number) that they are *not* going to offer an upgrade to restore the nav override, that had been present since 2000 model year. :cry:

    Rather than complain, I am working to get Lexus to see the error of their ways. I need your help.

    I have started a website, www.lexusoverride.com where you can register your disappointment with this situation. With critical mass we can fix this mess. Please join me and sign up. Email information will be kept confidential.
  • rgerchakrgerchak Posts: 1
    Vam,

    I am also in the market for the ES350 - Can you identify your dealer?
    Thanks
  • crazymacrazyma Posts: 20
    As a major commuter, I was very intrigued by the idea of dynamic cruise control. The pre-collision system also seemed like a winner from a safety standpoint. When I visited the dealership last weekend I asked to test drvie an ES with the dynamic cruise. The dealer said that in 4 years, he has seen only one vehicle come through with that option and it was an LS. He said that if I wanted that, I could not test drive it and I would need to order it from the factory. This, he said, would take about 4 months. Does anyone have an opinion on this? Is that true that it is a very rare option? Does anyone have it? Is it worth the wait? I know there was some brief discussion about this topic a few months ago, but I thought perhaps there would be some new information available. I was also suprised to hear that the dealership will be receiving the 2008s at the end of July. Does anyone know what is changing, if anything? My dealer couldn't say for sure -- suprisingly. Thanks!
  • Car is fine as far as it goes. My issue however is that Lexus (and Toyota, their parent does the same thing) has the navigation system disabled for most features whenever the car is moving.

    This may sound like a good idea until you consider that:

    1. The car is not theirs to tell me how to use it.

    2. My $500 Garmin Nuvi doesn't have these restrictions at 1/4 the price.

    3. A passenger can safely operate the system while in motion had they left it enabled.

    I have details along with a collection of comments from users at: www.jeffsstuff.com/blog

    Please, before buying a Lexus or Toyota with a navigation system, ask yourself if it is worth it. For me, it is not.

    Had Lexus been honest with me and disclosed this limitation before the sale, I never would have bought the nav system and probably not bought the car. Their competitors don't treat their customers like children!
  • I asked about this as well at three different dealers here in NJ. They all said the same thing.

    I actually wondered if there was a problem with the system and they pulled it from production and don't want to admit it until they get it fixed. Otherwise, I can't imagine why they don't sell tons of these. I'd pay the price just for the cruise control. It sounds like one of those things that, just like ABS, airbags and seatbelts, will end up being everywhere if a few years.

    I'd definitely be interested in knowing the story here. Also, is there a way to add it after the fact? Is it available aftermarket?
  • zekeman1zekeman1 Posts: 422
    What other cars, with factory installed nav systems, allow the driver to have complete control of the nav system as you describe?

    3. A passenger can safely operate the system while in motion had they left it enabled.
    A pretty general statement - can you back it up with valid, safety facts, other than a collection of comments from users on your blog?
    Z
  • kewl1kewl1 Posts: 11
    My two cents...first the radar cruise control. If you read the user manual on that thing there are so many 'situations' where it might not work right, i.e. motorcycle, small trailer like one a PU would pull, lane changing cars, and more, that you will spend more time watching the radar cruise then you would just watching the road. I don't think that system is ready for prime time. Maybe when all vehicle have to have some kind of radar reflector on the back to be sure you see the vehicle in from of you....and the system is fine tuned to deal with the sudden appearance of another vehicle, like that of a lane changer....then I might consider getting one.

    As for the Nav...I think restricting it is smart. Yes it would be nice if the passenger could run the nav for you, but there is no way the manufacture can be sure that is the only way it would be used while the vehicle is in motion. Is it a pain, yes, but I watch too many people have accidents just talking on the phone. I can't imagine what the accident rate would be with driver looking down at the display trying to make some kind of adjustment to the nav system.

    I hope Lexus continues to hold to the approach they current have for the nav system. All I can say to all of you who want to use it while driving...plan better. Or...come up with some foolproof method Lexus can use to ensure only the passenger can use the Nav system.
  • crazymacrazyma Posts: 20
    Why can't they just put a sensor on the passenger seat to activate the nav just like it activates or deactivates passenger airbags for kids?
  • fredvhfredvh Posts: 857
    Because the driver would just put a weight on the seat to defeat the purpose.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    From what I've read around here, I believe Acura does and that may mean Honda does as well. I would guess they have the same or similar systems.

    And about sensing a passenger, it seems to me that is the most logical solution to their concerns. If they are truly worried about a driver putting a weight on the seat to mimic the weight of an adult, then they really are going waaay too far.
  • crazymacrazyma Posts: 20
    Then so be it. It certainly clears lexus by showing that they did something. Its like the warning on the bottles of whipped cream. Yeah, everyone loves it, but it should be used as directed and intended. No one ever said all whipped cream needs to be non-aerosol because some people misused them. You don't see ready-whip getting sued and cool-whip indemnified. This is micromanaged in loco parentis and it is terribly inconvenient and seemingly, unnecessary. I would like to see a study showing accident rate reductions as a result of inactivating the fuctions during vehicle movement. If there is a sensor on the passenger seat and someone intentionally weights the seat to regain nav fuction, then I say Lexus did all they could. I would be very suprised to ever see them liable in that situation.
  • prazpraz Posts: 163
    I bought this gorgeous and reliable luxo car in the second week of December as a gift to my wife for our 10th Anniversary. Here are the issues that I have noticed and probably some of you might.

    a) The rear bumper expands in sunlight and therefore does not align with the fender on both sides.
    b) The door metal trim for the front and back door do not align.
    c) Rattles from rear deck.
    d) Speaker makes a buzz noise when the volume is above 12.
    e) Engine makes a loud noise when you start it in winter.

    Have been to 2 dealers and none of them have solved the issues and they say nothing is abnormal, meaning all the above issue are normal to $40,000 reliable car? I don't agree. Please help me out on how to solve some if not all of the above issues.
  • kk79kk79 Posts: 4
    Does one need to pay extra for the Backup Camera option if getting the Premium Plus with Navigation with basic Audio.
  • lexusguy3lexusguy3 Posts: 12
    I found a reference to oil leaks in the newspaper. "Owners of two Lexus models2007RX350 and ES350 (TSB's EG011-07 and EG010-07) issued on April 12 may have an oil leak from the timing cover, where it meets the cylinder head and engine block. Removing and resealing the timing cover should stop the leak. No mention is made of whether coverage extends beyond the warranty." Has anyone had any experience with this problem. LEXUS GUy 3
  • I frequently rent cars in Europe with Nav systems. ALL of them have the system fully enabled at all times. They make you push a button when you turn the Nav On, in order to acknowledge that you are repsonsible for it's use, but after that you have full control over it. This is just a stupid Toyota idea to disable control during driving.

    As for adaptive cruise control, there is still much to be done before it will be useful.
  • larrymitlarrymit Posts: 80
    My car, equipped as you describe, has the backup camera. I believe it is part of the NAV system.
  • navguy1navguy1 Posts: 181
    I noticed today that Lexus has added a new option, if you have registered on Lexus.com, to submit a missing address or business, check to see what is available on the current map disc, check city listings and verify which DVD map disc fits your vehicle.

    Go to www.lexus.com and click on OWNER at the top of the page. Just register and you will have unlimited access to these features. Remeber, you must have your VIN to register
  • crazymacrazyma Posts: 20
    Anybody know where the DVD player for the Navigation system is? What happens if I push the eject disk button on the Nav system? Can I insert a DVD movie and watch it while in park?
  • kewl1kewl1 Posts: 11
    DVD access is just below the screen...the trim piece that says Lexus on it. That trim piece slides up to reveal the DVD slot.
  • larrymitlarrymit Posts: 80
    I must be blind, but I can't find this on the website. (I am a registered owner and can see the other owner resources.)

    Please give more detailed steps on how to reach this.

    Thanks.
  • klee3klee3 Posts: 55
    I'm interested in buying an ES 350 with premium plus pkg and no navigation. Should I wait for 2008 model? What are the advantages of buying 2008? I know I can get a pretty good deal ($3k less than MSRP) on the 2007's now. I'm just wondering if getting a 2008 would be better in terms of less problems and issues (1st yr model always have more issues that should be fixed next year or two). Please let me know what you guys think. Thanks for your response.
  • klee3klee3 Posts: 55
    Hmm... I'm shopping for a car to replace my 2005 TL. The rattles in the TL are driving me crazy. I've taken it to the dealership 5, 6 times and they keep coming back (rattles from different areas too). I'm about to buy an ES 350. I don't want to have the rattle issues to deal with again. Is this a common problem for 2007 ES 350??
  • prazpraz Posts: 163
    Yes, the rattles in ES350 are common and they come from different areas. Rattle in my car comes from rear only but for some it comes from dashboard or doors. I have driven a few new ES350 without AC and music system and you can hear the rattle. Also, as mentioned all new cars have bumper, engine noise when you start in winter and door trim issues. Apart form this, the car is excellent.
    2008 have minor changes like new exterior mirror and rear reading lights for $250 extra but you also might not get a good deal on them until December.
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