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The car only has 53 miles on it, so, no its not a demo either. I was surprised at how many of these were left over in northern new england as this is great country for subarus. The invoice was somewhere around $35700 and with the $2500 financing rebate, brings the cost down to $33200.
I worked another local dealer over pretty hard for 6 months on the same model and then took his best offer ($30777), to a neighboring dealer. The second guy didn't even flinch when I told him I would offer $29000 and asked for the warranty.
I realize that the car is already a year old, but with 53 miles on it, its still a brand new car. I believe I am getting a great deal on this after reading some of these other posts. What do you all think?
What color?
Wouldn't we be better off with the 2007 quoted to us for $34,###(low) with same specs. (excluding Nav.-dont realy need it): with financing 2.9% - 5.75% for 3 yrs. After all, Subaru may have got the engine problem sorted out on the 2007 by now?
I would offer the dealer $28,000 on an 06 5 pass limited.. If he doesn't respond...try a new dealer.
See the actual pricing at www.cars101.com and check to see if the 1250 rebate is still on in your area.
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/ratingsbyseries.aspx?id=579
-juice
It may not be WOW deal, but going by the national average of 32,000 I think I managed okay. Since I have to register in MA so I had to pay $1300 TTL.
This is the one issue I've seem the most complaints about,the lack of vision for backing up in tight areas,many people are adding wireless systems so if you can't retro fit an OEM system there are options.
I think the price is acceptible considering it will have the full warrenty from date of sale.
I am a very good driver, had not had a moving violation in almost 25 years, but never had had an accident involving another vehicle in my life (I am over 60) and only one time over 30 years ago had a brush with a guardrail in a blizzard. Other than that, a perfect record.
There is no doubt in my mind, however, that with the extremely poor visibility while backing up I will surely hit something in the future. I just hope nothing alive.
This vehicle is the absolute worst one I have ever had for rear visibility. Probably get one of those wireless jobs; I see them now advertised for less than $100.
Other than that, I love the car!
Be sure and shop around for a better quality color system with lower light sensitivity for nite backing.RV owners have been using these for years and Campingworld has one onsale.
BTW,excellent driving record for sure..have you ever taken an advanced driving course just for fun? When we get our new Subaru we have plans to attend the bridgestone winter driving school in Colorado,reviews say it really sharpens skills.
Granted- you can buy an '06 a few grand cheaper, but it will be worth less when you sell it a few years from now as well- so factor that in.
Yes the 07 Nav has a great BU camera but you don't need to spend $2K to have one.
Depends on how much you'll save on a *new* 06..it can be substantial and well below invoice and just what frugal shoppers most enjoy..the good deal but 07's can also be 'a good deal' if your a savvy buyer/shopper.
RAV4 may be the worst, because on top of the wide D-pillar you have the big spare blocking even more of the view.
-juice
I just have a feeling I will be backing into something that I can't see with this particular vehicle.
I can't believe what is going on right now.Last week we had a salesperson from our Subaru dealership call us to ask if we were interested in opting out of our lease on our 2005 Forester X early.We called the guy back,and told him that in fact we had been thinking recently about what we are going to do at the lease end in September of 07 with the car.We absolutely love the car,but with 2 kids(both in car seats),and my large build we were thinking that it does get a bit snug from time to time.We asked if we could come in,and test drive a few different larger vehicles(Tribeca,Outback wagon),and he said sure,so we made an appointment.
If any of you have young children you understand that going to a car dealer to test drive a few cars is not the most pleasurable thing on earth with the kids getting restless,and the constant moving of car seats.We ended up being there around 3 hours with test drives,and negotaitions.
Well we test drove a 7 passenger Tribeca with leather,and NAV.We really loved the car.,but the price was out of our range even with it being a former executive car that had around 2000 miles on it,but it is sold as new.We talked numbers,and the 7 passenger with leather and NAv was going to be $430ish a month after satisfying our forester X lease,and little to nothing out of our pocket.We said we would talk about it,and then the sales guy came up with another option of a 5 passenger leather,NAV model with only 1200 miles on it in the light green color for around the same $420ish a month on a 48 month lease.
Well lets fast forward to this morning.The sales guy called me begging to trade in our X.He said they are willing to give us $16 for the X,and they are discounting the Tribeca 5 passenger with leather and nav to $27.3K.He told me that they really want our X,and that they are willing to do this deal,and have a lease program at $399 a month with around $980 out of pocket.He says that the $16 for our forester satisfys the elase,and gives up around $2k in equity which is sweet,but I wonder if this is as good a deal as he is making it out to be.Also is the $27.3K a really good discount on a 06 Tribeca 5 passenger with 1200 miles,Nav,and leather?
We went into this whole thing thinking the 5 passenger was our best bet with the lower cost,but while we think about it the 7 passenger makes more sense for the future if the kids want to bring friends along with themor if we have friends that don't want to take 2 cars.
My wife,and I both liked the Tribeca,but my wife is thinking that maybe we should get a vehicle with sliding doors for ease of loading people,and such.What are your thoughts?We want to get a larger vehicle,and not break the bank,plus the thought of never ending leasing does nothing for me,but may be the only way we keep the payments managable while still driving newer vehicles.
I am about ready to just say forget about it,and ride the elase on the X out,and then maybe buy a used min-van,but I am not sure my wife is up for that.Sorry for the novel,and any input on this is appreciated.Thanks.
Chris
Confused in Massachusetts
OK,what I'm reading here and getting from feelers,you can get somewhere close to $1200k *below* invoice on the 07's,the executive demos (make sure they are not rentals)should be had closer to $26k checking KBB. BTW, The nationwide subaru trade-in program which lasts till Jan 2 is called the GTP and it only applies to purchasing new cars from what I can tell but if you can swing a deal on an loaded 06 closer to KBB price with what you consider a fair allowance for your X.. very tempting.
Be sure and read all the Tribeca forums here for all the latest.
I found a CPO Tribeca for about $4k less, so I may get that once I'm ready.
-juice
The 7-pass- not only do you get the extra seat, but also, extra AC vents and control in the back. nice.
For an '06 still on the lot, he should be willing to practically give away this vehicle. The '07's have a number of new features- such as the seat memories and back-up camera that's really really handy, as well as suspension improvements, and some safety stuff. Realize, that a few years down the road, an '07 will be worth a couple grand more than an '06- so it might be a difference worth paying now.
Note- The dealer does not really 'want' your Forester, he wants to sell you a new car, so he's telling you that he 'wants it'. It's an old trick- knowing that you'll need to buy a new car if you sell your old one, so, they call up people and tell them that they need good used cars for their lot. Clever huh?
Hard for us to say if the $27.3K is a good deal, as he's got you on a number of fronts- trade in, lease, payments, new car sale. It never hurts to shop around... and do it via email/phone. Once you step foot into the dealership, it gives them the edge.
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/
As for the restyle. I don't see Subaru doing much dramatic. Our previous 9 year old Forester looks pretty much the same as the current forester....and that's after a couple of supposed complete makeovers. I predict it will get a new front end treatment and that's it. That should be enough to silence the naysayers.
Is this reasonable? Is the Nav option really worth the extra 2K? Our plan is to start negotiating at $28.9K ($2.5K below invoice) for the Ltd with no Nav. Any tips / suggestions would be appreciated..
Remeber to get puddle lights as well...pretty easy to install yourself...detailed instructions available online too.
Certainly- if all you want a navigation system- you can buy one cheaper aftermarket. But- it's certainly worth something extra to have the system all nicely integrated into the vehicle - plus you get a much larger touch screen system than you will get with an aftermarket. Also, there are some extra screens that come with the system that are fun and useful.
For me- pretty much the whole reason why I got the Nav system is so that I could have the backup camera. It's terrific, works well even at night, and is something I use EVERY day. I'd also imagine that when it comes to selling the vehicle in a few years, the Nav system will be worth a bit extra- so perhaps you're not really paying for the whole $1800.
Another thought- you're buying what is essentially a brand new luxury vehicle. Do you really want to be glueing things to your dashboard on your new car?
Costco has the latest c520 for $399. They have some Korean off brand with a 7" touch screen for $399 as well, but I'm not familiar with the model or even the brand. Tempting, though.
-juice
http://www.subaru-global.com/
http://www.subaru.co.uk/IMGGB/WWW/subaru_co_uk.nsf/LiveByRef/PMAS-6UNMJ7?OpenDoc- ument
Just a guess...hope it won't be a bland square grill like the Forester...no offence to any forester owners.
I doubt they'll keep it at 3.0l, the first version of this engine made 212hp, it's already been tuned for more power. Besides, torque is what will help most.
-juice
We'll see.
Even though the WRX has kept the same basic body, the "face" has changed dramatically to give it 3 different looks.
At the very least I expect a revamped front end and a bigger engine. Maybe more.
-juice
I'd keep shopping.
-juice
Are these good deals or could I do better? And if so how much better. Like the 07, even though it is more, because of the backup camera, but 06 seems like a much better buy.
Thanks for the help!
Greg
-juice
We really needed this car before our trip up to the mountains over Christmas. I guess we'll have to rent a car now!
Did they promise Dec. 10 in writing? Even if they didn't, I'd still ask for one.
-juice
If it's the type of dealer that offers loaners for service, they may be able to do it. Good luck.
-juice
I doubt I'll get a loaner. I need to take it on quite a drive. I'll just have to wait to get it in 2007 it looks like because the sales manager is leaving town on Saturday.
Does that price of 32K include TT&L??
Does anybody know if there are Factory to dealer incentives for tribecas in December?
Charlie
And yes- there is currently a factory to dealer incentive. Officially, its $1250- but given the prices I've been hearing about recently, perhaps there's something else?
-juice
-juice