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Buying American Cars What Does It Mean?

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  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 4,860
    Anything, it was a 2014 Hyundai Tucson and it wasn't a bad vehicle, on the contrary, it was a great vehicle but just not for me. I had driven econoboxes for such a long time, I just wanted something different and to be sitting higher up due to my spinal issues. I searched for awhile, weeks, but got tired at the end and settled on a model I didn't absolutely love. Within a few days I knew I had made a huge mistake but decided to live with it. Exactly a year later, my wife bought an Audi A3 and I fell in love...only issue was she had more $ to spend on a vehicle, long story! Since the door was now open to German ownership, stopped by the local VW store and finding the Jetta just too big and the Tiguan out of my price range, drove the Golf and that was it. Took a few days to process it all and to get the wife's o k, not really necessary but wanted to make things easier for me in the long run.
    The mileage difference between both vehicles became the deciding factor in my decision since I have a part time gig which I work 3 days/week with a 60 mile round trip. Went into the dealership and after some back and forth, made the decision and never looked back. After driving a few '15 models this past week, I work for a Hertz HLE, it just reinforced that I had made the right decision to trade out the Tucson. First time I've ever done something like this, and definitely the last...I've finally found a vehicle, vehicles, I absolutely love and plan to stay the course in the future. Figure at my age, there's not going to be many more vehicles in my future so plan on going with those that make me smile each time I walk in the garage!

    The Sandman :) B)

    2015 Audi A3 (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2008 Hyundai Accent GLS (daughter #2)

  • andres3andres3 Southern CAPosts: 10,821

    Anything, it was a 2014 Hyundai Tucson and it wasn't a bad vehicle, on the contrary, it was a great vehicle but just not for me. I had driven econoboxes for such a long time, I just wanted something different and to be sitting higher up due to my spinal issues. I searched for awhile, weeks, but got tired at the end and settled on a model I didn't absolutely love. Within a few days I knew I had made a huge mistake but decided to live with it. Exactly a year later, my wife bought an Audi A3 and I fell in love...only issue was she had more $ to spend on a vehicle, long story! Since the door was now open to German ownership, stopped by the local VW store and finding the Jetta just too big and the Tiguan out of my price range, drove the Golf and that was it. Took a few days to process it all and to get the wife's o k, not really necessary but wanted to make things easier for me in the long run.
    The mileage difference between both vehicles became the deciding factor in my decision since I have a part time gig which I work 3 days/week with a 60 mile round trip. Went into the dealership and after some back and forth, made the decision and never looked back. After driving a few '15 models this past week, I work for a Hertz HLE, it just reinforced that I had made the right decision to trade out the Tucson. First time I've ever done something like this, and definitely the last...I've finally found a vehicle, vehicles, I absolutely love and plan to stay the course in the future. Figure at my age, there's not going to be many more vehicles in my future so plan on going with those that make me smile each time I walk in the garage!

    The Sandman :) B)

    Is your wife's A3 the 2.0T Quattro version, or the 1.8T? I'm a big fan of the 2.0T motor.
    '16 Audi TTS quattro 2.0T, '17 VW Golf Alltrack SE 4-Motion 1.8T, '16 Kia Optima LX 1.6T
  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 4,860
    The base 1.8T that I've got in my VW Golf. Great engine though it seems to pull better in her A3, shifts a bit smoother. Hoping to take it from her if she decides to trade early as it'll have less miles than mine and I really like it, a lot. Audi does a nice job and even though it is their lowest priced model, does not feel that way. Prefer my blue over beige to hers, white over black guts, but it was either that or black over black, which we both did not like. The silver and dark gray were nice but weren't in stock when we bought.

    The Sandman :) B)

    2015 Audi A3 (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2008 Hyundai Accent GLS (daughter #2)

  • berriberri Posts: 9,878
    I don't know why, but it seems like to get a blue exterior and beige like interior you almost have to buy European. The US and Japanese seem to tend toward blue with grey interiors. Also, Europe serves up some nice medium blues, while US and Asia seem to favor silver blues or dark ink blues. I sure wish we had more variety in colors and color combinations.
  • andres3andres3 Southern CAPosts: 10,821

    Anything, it was a 2014 Hyundai Tucson and it wasn't a bad vehicle, on the contrary, it was a great vehicle but just not for me. I had driven econoboxes for such a long time, I just wanted something different and to be sitting higher up due to my spinal issues. I searched for awhile, weeks, but got tired at the end and settled on a model I didn't absolutely love. Within a few days I knew I had made a huge mistake but decided to live with it. Exactly a year later, my wife bought an Audi A3 and I fell in love...only issue was she had more $ to spend on a vehicle, long story! Since the door was now open to German ownership, stopped by the local VW store and finding the Jetta just too big and the Tiguan out of my price range, drove the Golf and that was it. Took a few days to process it all and to get the wife's o k, not really necessary but wanted to make things easier for me in the long run.
    The mileage difference between both vehicles became the deciding factor in my decision since I have a part time gig which I work 3 days/week with a 60 mile round trip. Went into the dealership and after some back and forth, made the decision and never looked back. After driving a few '15 models this past week, I work for a Hertz HLE, it just reinforced that I had made the right decision to trade out the Tucson. First time I've ever done something like this, and definitely the last...I've finally found a vehicle, vehicles, I absolutely love and plan to stay the course in the future. Figure at my age, there's not going to be many more vehicles in my future so plan on going with those that make me smile each time I walk in the garage!

    The Sandman :) B)

    It would be easy to turn a 2.0T Quattro A3 into an S3 for much less cost; but at what expense in lost durability?
    '16 Audi TTS quattro 2.0T, '17 VW Golf Alltrack SE 4-Motion 1.8T, '16 Kia Optima LX 1.6T
  • steverstever Posts: 52,462
    "The Chattanooga City Council on Tuesday approved a tax break of a little more than $1 million over a period of 14 years for a Chinese company building a local plant to manufacture automobile interiors for Volkswagen.

    The company says it is the largest manufacturer in the world of auto interiors, with 22 plants in the U.S. and 100 worldwide. In Chattanooga, it will supply interior components including floor consoles, instrument panels and trunk trim for future VW models."

    City Council approves tax break for Chinese auto parts firm (timesfreepress.com)
  • steverstever Posts: 52,462
    "The arrival of Chinese-made cars has surprised some people in the United States, particularly United Auto Workers leaders who objected to General Motors’ decision to begin selling the Buick Envision starting this July.

    But it is the culmination of a long-promised, never-fulfilled vision, and their introduction stands in stark contrast to 2007, when Chinese automakers stormed auto shows in America, making bold promises that they would soon open showrooms here."

    Chinese-Made Cars Arrive in U.S. Showrooms (New York Times)
  • fintailfintail Posts: 47,603
    Buy a Chinese car, say "I believe in fair trade", LOLOLOL...I don't think you know what that means.

    Still haven't seen one of those LWB S60s, and I live in a market where Volvo has a presence, and there are lots of proud expats (just ask any realtor).
  • berriberri Posts: 9,878
    edited January 2016
    I think many Asians in the US seem to like German brands if they go import, just like most everyone else, so might be why Volvo's aren't doing much here with their expats?
  • fintailfintail Posts: 47,603
    Here it is a mix, German or Lexus if one has money, highline German or Italian if one is an "investor" resident, otherwise, the Civrolla rules the roost.

    A number of high spec Genesis and even Equus around here are driven by Koreans, I assume the pride would translate.
    berri said:

    I think many Asians in the US seem to like German brands if they go import, just like most everyone else, so might be why Volvo's aren't doing much here with their expats?

  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Alamogordo, NMPosts: 7,615
    edited January 2016
    Prefer my blue over beige to hers, white over black guts, but it was either that or black over black, which we both did not like. The silver and dark gray were nice but weren't in stock when we bought.

    sandan, lol, I don't recall ever hearing of car interiors referred to as "guts."

    2011 Kia Soul Sport 5-speed

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 64,490
    Well, if you think carefully about where leather upholstery comes from..... :D
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Alamogordo, NMPosts: 7,615
    Righteo - shifty! And the subject is right in our snouts here in Dodge City, Queen of the Cowtowns. B)

    2011 Kia Soul Sport 5-speed

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 64,490
    I read somewhere that it takes 9 cows to pave a full size Lexus.

  • berriberri Posts: 9,878
    So did Toyota get an EPA emissions credit for reducing air pollution :p
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 64,490
    edited February 2016
    hahaha....probably cancelled out by the use of wood trim.

    I wonder if those were domestic content cows?
  • berriberri Posts: 9,878
    You know, if you go through all the EPA and other related gov regulations it really is about that complicated and goofy!
  • steverstever Posts: 52,462
    A reporter is working on a story about car shoppers who are only interested in buying cars that are made in the USA. If you're one of these shoppers, and you'd like to talk about your experience shopping for American-made vehicles, please reach out to PR @edmunds.com by no later than Thursday, September 15, 2016.
  • berriberri Posts: 9,878
    Looks like he'll be talking to Toyota and Honda buyers B)
  • steverstever Posts: 52,462
    We did post that blurb in the Camry and Odyssey discussions. :)
  • andres3andres3 Southern CAPosts: 10,821
    Is the Kia with a VIN starting with 5 made in the USA? I suspect it is.
    '16 Audi TTS quattro 2.0T, '17 VW Golf Alltrack SE 4-Motion 1.8T, '16 Kia Optima LX 1.6T
  • steverstever Posts: 52,462
    "The No.1 U.S. auto maker in terms of sales started selling the Chinese-built Buick Envision in North American dealerships in late spring, importing relatively small numbers of the vehicles to give a boost to the Buick brand. A few months into the experiment, dealers are clamoring for more because they say most of their customers don’t care where the vehicle is made."

    Americans Embrace a Made-in-China Buick SUV (WSJ - probably a registration link)
  • fintailfintail Posts: 47,603
    Haven't seen one on the road.

    And yes, a "5" VIN is a USA-built car.
  • steverstever Posts: 52,462
    ~6,000 sold since May. September sales were 1,649.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 47,603
    Retail sales?
  • steverstever Posts: 52,462
    lol, excellent question. Have to ask the Journal/Autodata.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 64,490
    I read recently or I thought I read that you cannot buy a 100% u.s. content car anymore
  • fintailfintail Posts: 47,603
    Just hard to imagine 50+ of those selling every day for half a year.

    Even my E-class is only about 75% German content. 100% local content is impossible with so many electronics in cars.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 64,490
    Far cry from the day when Henry Ford made just about every part for his cars, including the steel.

    I'm not on board with regarding globalization as some horrifying menace. The overview of the whole process is extremely complex and there are some distinct benefits that are reaped everyday by American citizens.

    I just read where Ford execs pretty much went ballistic over remarks that building cars in Mexico was some sort of dastardly unpatriotic act.

    The Bureau of Labor Statistics is an interesting place to get some idea of what's going on in the U.S. auto industry.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 47,603
    Globalization is likely a net positive, but a lot more needs to be done for those who are left behind. A lot of the one-worlders won't touch the socio-economic elephant in the room - this is the stuff that breeds populist insanity. To borrow a fun old quote, history doesn't repeat itself, but it can rhyme.


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