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What is "wrong" with these new subcompacts?



  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,726

    Bad news about the next-gen Mazda2 (and the Yaris that will be based on it) and the new Honda Fit coming this fall are they will all be built in Mexico, as opposed to Japan where they are all built now.

    Historically the Japanese (and most others) have done a bad job of transplanting their build quality to Mexican auto plants.

    2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)

  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Manson, WAPosts: 6,920

    That is not the best of news. Might have to wait and evaluate the build quality for a bit.

    2011 Kia Soul Sport 5-speed

  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 23,040

    @iluvmysephia1 said:
    That is not the best of news. Might have to wait and evaluate the build quality for a bit.

    Hey now, my 2012 Ram came from Mexico...don't put a curse on me, now! B)

  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Manson, WAPosts: 6,920

    Having said that, I can't see Honda or Toyota or Mazda putting up with shoddy quality of any of their cars made anywhere. If it's got their name on it, right? Right. That's how we need ta think about that, right, andre1969?

    2011 Kia Soul Sport 5-speed

  • steverstever Posts: 52,683

    A reporter would like to speak to a car shopper under the age of 34 who is unsure whether you should lease or buy. If this is you, please send your daytime contact info to by Friday, May 2, 2014 at 10 a.m. PT/1 p.m. ET.

  • benjaminhbenjaminh Posts: 2,876
    edited June 2014

    The all-new 2014 Mini, with its BMW-engineered 1.5 liter 3-cylinder turbo, is rated 42 mpg on the highway by the epa. Impressive!

    But does anyone who owns one have any real-world results that equal that?

    Ford's Ecoboost engines seem to have trouble meeting their epa ratings in the real world, and I'm wondering if the same is true here or not.

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