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  • laurasdadalaurasdada Posts: 3,102
    Hi, NYC: UConn is a fine skool! Both my bruther and me is prowd graditates!

    He, along with all my friends and fellow alumni, are quite successful in their chosen fields. Me? My UConn degree has allowed me to post such witticisms as this on Edmunds message boards when not changing the grease, I mean oil, in the fryolator. Not that there's anything wrong with that... Liberal Arts major, D'OH!

    My daughter is 17, has already been early accepted at a couple of schools. I was hoping she'd be interested in UConn, I was going to send her to live with my friends in Wilton to establish residency. Alas, being a Husky was not on her list.

    If one chooses to go to one of the fine New England state U's, none finer than the one in beautiful Storrs, Ct. If for nothing else, the Dairy Bar!

    '13 Jaguar XF, possibly my favorite of all the cars I've owned. But, my '09 Jag XK was a beauty, as was my '05 Acura TL, '88 Acura Integra, '84 Mitsubishi Mirage Turbo & '78 VW Scirocco (my first!). And, of course, the '92 Nissan Sentra SE-R and '95 Saab 900s I bought for the ex... Ok, I like a lot of the cars in my life.

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 11,393
    Ha! Thanks for the heads up!

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Infiniti G37x Q40 AWD

  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 19,663
    Mr Grumpy has found something else he doesn't like. Buy one - get the 2nd one for 50% off.
    I went to the outlet mall and bought some Addidas running shoes for $70. Then, I had to make use of getting the 2nd pair for 50% off. Well, I didn't really need a 2nd pair but I found some that were $40 tegular, so I got them for $20. Not bad, but I did end up with a 2nd pair I don't really need.

    It's much worse when we go to the grocery store...where they all started doing these. For example, if you buy a pre-made salad for $4 you get the extra one free or for 50% off. What if I can only eat one salad, or lettuce, or pepper?

    It is clever marketing, I figure the retailer is making his full profit on the first item, and the second item he is selling at cost. Basically, I would just prefer to get 25% off or something like that.....I don't want to encourage this. It could lead to buy a 535, and get an 135 for 50% off!

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 6,471
    It's just a percentage off sale, that in turn makes the average sale higher. Quite common. They suckered you in to spending more money. The retailer cost averages between the two items and probably end up at a 30 gross instead of the usual 50/60. Good for them (and good for you if you really wanted 2!). Not so much if you wanted a good deal on one.

    2017 Buick Enclave / 2017 Hyundai Elantra

  • houdini1houdini1 Kansas City areaPosts: 7,541
    edited January 2013
    Speaking of percentages, here is one of my favorite riddles:

    Three men spend the night in a hotel. The desk clerk charges them $30. for the room. Later he discovers that he has overcharged them by $5. so he gives the bellhop $5. and tells him to give it to the 3 men.

    He gives the men the $5. and they give him back a $2. tip. So, in effect the men have paid $9. each, or $27. for the room. The bellhop has $2., for a total of $29. Since they had originally paid $30., what happened to that last dollar???

    If you have a mathematical mind you can figure this out pretty quickly. If you don't, like me, you can struggle for a long time !

    And don't ask what 3 men were doing in the same room !!

    2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460

  • michaellnomichaellno Posts: 4,300
    I'd have no problem buying a "pre-owned" C Class or 3 Series. And really, after I park it in the garage, I think she'd get used to it...and try to use it. Luckily, they opened the newest MB dealer right up the street, next to the VW & Audi dealer. By 2017, my target date, the last kid will be done with pharmacy school and she'll be retiring so my plan could come to fruition!

    By 2017, you could probably find an off-lease CLA sedan - this is a new model introduced by MB that is smaller than the C-class.
  • sterlingdogsterlingdog North CarolinaPosts: 6,984
    "We went in May, so it wasn't too warm..."

    Michaell, I would suggest a visit to North Carolina in July if possible. That's as hot as it gets, which can be pretty hot these days. You could deal with the cold weather easily. We do have the four seasons which is really nice.

  • graphicguygraphicguy SW OhioPosts: 10,197
    Another vote here for Temurpedic. They aren't cheap, but they do give a great night's sleep. Previously had a SleepNumber. Won't make that mistake again. It never would hold the same "number" in the air chambers from one night to the next. They kept replacing parts to make it "work". Finally, I gave up and wanted to return it under their "try it for 90 days" promise. By the time I made my request to return for a refund, the store I bought it from said I was past the 90 days. Well, yeah....they took 60 days to try to "fix" it. I fought with them for 6 months and finally prevailed. Never again, though.

    Costa Rica....great place. I used to go down there quite a bit for work when we were doing business with a computer company called Alienware (since bought up by Dell). They had their training HQ in Costa Rica. Inexpensive and the people were terrific. Rain forrest is a sight to behold. I'd live there given the chance.

    Talking about buying without knowing the asking price, I was at the Consumer Electronics Show in Vegas a couple of weeks ago. Anyone who's attended these large conferences is used to seeing booths with the high end massage chairs. CES is so big, I think there were actually 3 booths hawking those message chairs. These aren't the ones you find at Brookstone. These are allegedly a couple of steps above those chairs.

    They demo these chairs in the hopes that you'll plunk down $4k-$5k large and have one delivered to your home. I don't know the commission on these, but it must be pretty good given they have to haul the chairs to these venues, pay for hotel rooms for a week, in addition to paying for booth space, which isn't cheap.

    Anyway, after walking the show floor for about 6 hours the first day, I plopped into one of these chairs for a 10 minute massage demo. These chairs do everything but make you a cup of coffee.

    When the massage was done, I asked the booth person how much they cost. He went into this diatribe about how you can't put a price on your health, how your well being is worth more than money, etc. Then came..."just give me your credit card and the chair will be delivered by the time you arrive home."

    I still didn't know the price. When I pressed him, he went into stupid mode. Why does the only thing people care about is dollars?

    Me....."well, unless you want me to pay you in Carp, I need to know the cost in dollars."

    I didn't spend any more time with this guy or the booth. I did talk to one of the other people getting a demo to find out how much the chairs really cost. I can get a lot of professional massages from a licensed massage therapist for $5,000.
    2018 Acura TLX SH AWD ASpec
  • sterlingdogsterlingdog North CarolinaPosts: 6,984
    "Any recommendations would be appreciated."

    We buy Restonic mattresses. There is a reason for doing so. Their factory is 45 minutes from here. They allow us to select the coils, fabrics, and thickness that we want. We use high mattresses for our antique beds. Since they are custom done, I can't speak to the quality of those in the stores. We have owned Bemco mattresses and found them to be quite good.

    I would never, ever buy a product from a company that tries to frighten you into a purchase. As for dust mites and dry skin, it's part of life. If you wash the sheets, mattress pads and turn the mattresses regularly, you'll be fine.

  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 6,471
    They paid $28.00 for the room or 9.33333333333333333333 each!

    2017 Buick Enclave / 2017 Hyundai Elantra

  • sterlingdogsterlingdog North CarolinaPosts: 6,984
    "Mr. Grumpy has found something else he doesn't like."

    I never realized when I gave you that name you would enjoy using it so much. :P I do agree with you on the topic of getting the second item at 50% off. What burns me up is that they make the 50% sign really large so that you at first think that the items are actually 50% off each.

    I love the signs this time of year that say "75% off and take an additional 20% off". Now that's a deal!

  • sterlingdogsterlingdog North CarolinaPosts: 6,984
    If you leave off the tip, it was $8.3333333333333 each. :P Can you imagine the lovely decor of a $25 room? :sick: Talk about dust mites and shed skin! :surprise:

  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 6,471
    Ha ha. I was flipping channels this morning and an old I Love Lucy episode was on. They were in a hotel for 16 bucks a night!! :surprise:

    2017 Buick Enclave / 2017 Hyundai Elantra

  • jayriderjayrider Posts: 3,602
    Going to Sottsdale for 7 days soon. Using my points, I pay $59 a night for a Suite in Old Town. Free full breakfast every day as well. We charge almost everything on the rewards card.
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Posts: 13,458
    Sorry but they paid $25 for the room, $2 for the tip and got $3 back from their original $30.

    2008 Sebring Ragtop, 2011 Hyundai Sonata.

  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 6,471
    Yeah, after you read it back it makes sense. I guess I need to go back to high school. :surprise:

    2017 Buick Enclave / 2017 Hyundai Elantra

  • sterlingdogsterlingdog North CarolinaPosts: 6,984
    Where in heaven's name have you been?! I've been asking about you for months. I'm glad that you're alive. How's Chicago? Try to stay around and keep me straight. I know; it's an impossible job. ;)

  • sterlingdogsterlingdog North CarolinaPosts: 6,984
    Cadillac ATS wins North American Car of the Year Award for 2013.

  • laurasdadalaurasdada Posts: 3,102
    edited January 2013
    I was at the New England International Auto Show yesterday. The ATS had a pretty constant flow of traffic. I played around a bit, it's pretty small inside, as is the trunk. And, while I have a version 1.0 touch screen in my current car that is slow and semi-annoying, the new ultra modern CUE in the ATS I found even more annoying! The "virtual sliders" for volume are a terrible idea. A lot of distraction whilst driving. Luckily, redundant controls on the steering wheel. Simple buttons and dials, auto mfgs., please! They work!

    The new Lincoln MKZ is a nice looker, but the center stack plastic does not look upscale. This car is based on the new Fusion. And, Lincoln, your naming nomenclature is terrible. Does anyone really know the difference between an MKX, MKS or an MKZ? I think you have some pretty good currency with "Continental" and "Mark xxx..."

    While I'm an Acura fan, and two time owner, they really have to hire an outside stylist. Beauty is in the eye, but I find none with Acura. My '05 TL was a simple, classy, handsome design. What happened??? At least the beak is dying a slow death.

    BMWs are becoming a bit ridiculous in price (well, maybe they always have been). We did get a nice chunk of change off the 535ix we bought in 2011, which got it "down" to loaded 3 series territory.

    Mercedes? Ditto.

    Maybe Caddy will help save GM, a lot of traffic there. And more products coming, I'm looking forward to reviews of the ELR.

    Sad, one lonely Fisker cordoned off amongst Aston Martin, Lamborhini, Bentley and Rolls. The Fisker was garnering no attention. Keep that in mind when pricing the ELR, Caddy!

    And, my current marque, Jaguar, was MIA. Que lastima.

    Oh, yeah. The "Spokesmodels?" Oh, my. :) :D :blush:

    '13 Jaguar XF, possibly my favorite of all the cars I've owned. But, my '09 Jag XK was a beauty, as was my '05 Acura TL, '88 Acura Integra, '84 Mitsubishi Mirage Turbo & '78 VW Scirocco (my first!). And, of course, the '92 Nissan Sentra SE-R and '95 Saab 900s I bought for the ex... Ok, I like a lot of the cars in my life.

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 10,453
    "..maybe we always need adversity in our lives..."

    I'll take the beautiful weather and if I need adversity I'll pick a fight with my wife. At least then, when she throws me out in the street I can sleep on the beach. :shades:

    2015 Mustang GT, 2009 PT Cruiser, 2004 Chevy Van

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 10,453
    "...only drive about 1300 miles/yr...."

    A 13 year old car with only about 16k miles? That's my dream car. Call me when you want to sell. I should be down in St. Pete's by then. :)

    2015 Mustang GT, 2009 PT Cruiser, 2004 Chevy Van

  • mako1amako1a VirginiaPosts: 1,855
    Que lastima

    I remember that from Spanish class. Like Holy Sh&* or Holy cow (more likely).

    Nice review on the car show. ATS sounds nice, but I agree with you...knobs on the radio WORK. Last time I was in a drive-thru and had to turn down the radio quickly I just hit the power button and turned it off. (easier than holding the volume down button)

    2013 Mustang GT, 2001 GMC Yukon Denali

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 10,453
    "...the difference between..."

    I totally agree. The other day a friend was talking about a particular Lincoln model and I started discussing a totally different one because I can't keep all the "Ms" straight. :( For a low volume brand like Lincoln they should make it easier.

    2015 Mustang GT, 2009 PT Cruiser, 2004 Chevy Van

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Posts: 13,458
    I thought I replied to this (I know I did) but it hasn't shown up.

    Where in heaven's name have you been?!

    Been around, tried to get my book finished and then started getting ready for tax season.

    How's Chicago?

    Can't wait to put this state in my rear view mirror (hows that for a car reference?).

    2008 Sebring Ragtop, 2011 Hyundai Sonata.

  • bwiabwia Boston Posts: 1,908
    edited January 2013
    We buy Restonic mattresses. There is a reason for doing so. Their factory is 45 minutes from here.

    Thanks guys but when it comes to mattresses it seems as though high prices do not necessarily equate to comfort and relaxation.

    *Richard, according to an "unbiased" review I read, the Restonic mattress is slightly below average when it comes to comfort, after four years down the road, and above average when it comes to price. They claim the mattress tend to sink in the middle after fours years of use. Besides, the product is not available in the Boston area.

    *Driver, I really like the Tempurpedic, but the model I like retails for $7,500. My budget is maxed at $2,000, but if I have to, I probably could go as high as $2,500 but that will result in a big fight with my wife.

    *graphicguy, I am very surprised to learn that the SleepNumber bed does not hold the number setting and must be adjusted every night. In that case, I will have remove it from further consideration.

    Still, I understand that it is possible to buy "real" hotel mattress sets from the leading hotel chains. If I can buy something as comfortable as what I slept on at the Hilton and the Marriott I wouldn't hesitate if the price is relatively reasonable.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 25,737
    Philly had jaguar. Some new convertible sport model roped off on a platform was quite attractive. They also had Fisker. Maybe 3 cars, and one of them had a big Sold sign on it. I did not get up close to that one.

    Acura styling is improving. I like the ILX, our RDX nose is toned down, and the RLX actually looks good.

    2018 Hyundai Elantra Sport (mine), 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's) and 2015 Jetta Sport (daughter's)

  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 19,663
    At least then, when she throws me out in the street I can sleep on the beach.

    And, when are you going to Largo? This has been an amazing January so far.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 19,663
    Does anyone really know the difference between an MKX, MKS or an MKZ?

    Really good comments about your impressions of the cars you saw. Those are the things I would be interested in knowing.

    If I have to refer to one of those Lincoln models I have to look them up on the wesite to know which is which.

    Slide controls for volume would be difficult to use. The Passat has slide rule to find stations on Sirius and it is hard to control the selection, either go to far or not far enough.

    I agree about the Accuras, the vintage before the snout was much nicer...some cars just get uglier for some reason.

    BMW has some game going on using option packages to really boost the price. We priced a 328 and 335 for my wife. Then when we drove the A4 and liked it better no matter what the price, I was shocked to find it cost $16K less than the 335. The Premium Plus model included everything, even lange change warnings, which the 335 didn't have. Something is wrong with this.....except for 300 hp vs 240 we like the Audi in every way a lot more.

    Good points made though...loved the review of the cars you commented on.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 19,663
    *Driver, I really like the Tempurpedic, but the model I like retails for $7,500.

    $7500 has to be the top of the line set. The top of the line could get up there, but there are models that cost less. I just quickly found this site:
    Tempur Cloud

    We prefer Scandinavian style beds which are driving a bmw, usually made of foam, and don't require a boxspring. We got one for the Florida home and it was about $500 at Ikea........we love it. Not as good as the Tempurpedic but better than 90% of the mattresses I have used in motel/hotel rooms.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 10,406
    As promised, I test drove a 500 Abarth today. This one was a 2012 with a tick over 4,000 miles on the clock. I really enjoyed driving it; it's not very fast(6.9s 0-60, 15.1s 1/4 mile) but it is very tight and tossable- and the rorty exhaust note is worth the price of admission alone. The ergonomics are a bit on the quirky side and I sit a bit too high for my taste, but in my opinion it is more fun than a GTI(too smooth) or Cooper S(too cute- see: interior design by Playskool). The deal killers: I don't want a car payment and the 2012 didn't get heated seats :mad: (I didn't realize that until after the test drive). Aside from that it would be a great car to drive for my last 2 to 2.5 years of traveling the state- after which I'd sell it off and buy a true RWD performance car...

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport / 2014 M235i / 1999 Wrangler / 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2016 i3 REX/2009 Cooper Clubman Son's: 2009 328i

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