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1. It doesn't have to be a Prius (or a hybrid) to get into this situation. Any car can be stopped with its nose near the sidewalk, and not making any noise. Unless you are driving a 2 decades old Diesel.
2. If the car is stopped, does it matter that it was a hybrid or a regular gasoline engine?
3. how does a stopped vehicle hurt anybody?
4. Last but not the least, the driver of the vehicle is not blind. Why would he drive off when a blind man is crossing the road?
Yes the driver of the vehicle has an obligation to be aware, an obligation which is not necessarily fulfilled. I can think of my younger, much less experienced days, not long after I got my drivers license, when I almost hit a young child. I was driving to college and passed a school bus stop. I saw a parent standing there with a child, both the parent and child were looking right at me. The child suddenly darted right in front of me. I had assumed (you know what they say about assume) that as the child had looked right at me that he would know I was there and that he wouldn't run into the street.
A driver can think that a pedestrian is aware of the car and not be prepared for the pedestrian to step right in the cars path.
Now I believe that there IS something in that coffee! :P
Richard
However, my response was for a car parked(stopped) near the crosswalk.
For a moving silent car, see my earlier suggestion of putting on jingle bells on the wheels, like they have been done in India from, gosh I don't even know how long ago, times.
The Denali is an upscale Yukon priced around $10K more than a Tahoe or Yukon and $10K less than an Escalade. The 2001 Denali came with the 6.0 and the new version has the 403 HP 6.2L. As far as towing and hauling, I have a full size Titan to do those things. Being a crewcab truck it can also double as a family hauler. The only thing I use the tow hitch for is a chrome Denali insert.
The new Tahoe can be had with the 6.2L as an option on its LTZ model.
I will tell you what will probably happen will be a dealership will straight up lie and give them a stupid low number (since there's no vehicle with these specs anywhere anyway) and who knows where it will go from there. Then when the consumer comes in "sorry we were unable to get this vehicle" and who knows where it goes from there. Tell me it doesn't sound like they are the ones taking advantage of the customer. I'm in the process of trying to contact this company to find out exactly what the fee is. Should be interesting.
He's a clean cut guy that looks like one of those environmental guys who drink tree sap for breakfast and can speak bird and racoon languages from the time they spent in the wild.
He asks me what I have that can compete with a Hummer. :confuse:
I was a bit shocked because I though he'd be asking me for a hybrid or a bicycle, or he's asking for our biggest gas guzzler so he can make a statement by setting it on fire, and then fleeing on his bicycle.
He said he does guided tours of rainforests and he wants a car that can go offroad and carry lots of people and gear. I smelled bs right away and asked him to produce a business card as proof of his story. Well ok, i didn't say it like that but I did some info digging (asking qualifying questions) and he did give me a card, nothing professional, with some free hosted emails on it.
I asked him what he drives right now, to which he hesitated ( i had a feeling he rode a bus or a bicycle), and after a few uhhhs, uuuhs, he said a classic car, few more uhhhs, and then he said a Buick from the 80s.
Right right right I said. His car I did not see parked on our lot though.
Anyways I told him a Wrangler Rubicon will do the trick as it's one fo the most capable off roaders there is, aside from a Humvee H1 or H2.
"Nope" he says, "too small. I need more room. I need 8 seats inside"
Hmmm I'm thinking, unless I sell him a military transport truck, there isn't many vehicles out there that match what he wants.
So I run by him the idea of a 7 seat SUV, ala Commander, Durango, Aspen: nope nope nope (all too much dough). Pilots, MDX, all to no avail.
He looks inside a Caravan, and doesn't mind the room, but i told him he won't get anywhere off road in it. I started to lose focus as to what he was saying because his lips had lots of white saliva on the side when he was talking and it wasn't going away and it made me wanna gag, and the saliva was stretching between the top and bottom lip and it was kinda nasty. Sort of like when you're really thirsty. I had a sour face at that point and nodded as to show my attentiveness to his needs.
I offered water but he didn't want it but had more inquires about his off roader 8 passenger van, so this came to my mind:
but he didn't want a custom made one cause he didn't want to spend much money.
I told him his best bet was to go for a pick up truck. Great off road, great deals on them , seats 6 but put a canopy on it and he'll be good to go. At which point another customer of mine (that bought a month ago) walked up to say hi. He aslo mentions to this guy that he bought a Jeep from me and is very happy with it. The enviro-guy asks me: "Did you paid that guy to say good stuff about you and your products while customers are here?" :confuse: I should have said yes to throw him off..
As a last resort I showed him our gem of a offraoder, an 00 Land Rover Disco, with rear jump seats, but that too failed to impress him. He had to have 8 seats plus room for cargo.
He told me to call him when something that he wants shows up. I told him I would, but I also said that "no manufacturer ever made what you're describing for civilian use. And chances of it being traded in to us are slim to none."
But I'd call him anyways if it came in.....He said he's going to buy within a year.
He went off to look at a Hummer. I told him he 's not going to find more space inside anyways. But away he went.....
2016 Audi A7 3.0T S Line, 2021 Subaru WRX
Not to jump to conclusions, but some medications cause the foaming of white saliva at the lips. Some of those medications deal with psychological problems. From what you shared, I would say that you had a rather unique experience. He could have been hitchhiking and decided that he needed some diversion from the road. There are many displaced persons out there these days. It was good of you to give him so much of your time.
Richard
2016 Audi A7 3.0T S Line, 2021 Subaru WRX
LOL.... You poor [non-permissible content removed]. That up sounds like a nightmare. You probably wanted to kill yourself. I know I did reading it.
For the record the pn;y reason I wanted to kill myself is because I can understand the pain Boomcheck was going through.
Also my comment was a figure of speach.
GP
You meant that he looked rabid?
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Valet key doesnt matter....
If you got $9000 off looking at a Nissan you should hava bought it!
Sorry I didn't get back to you quicker.
GP
'I do believe it was a comedian...
I'm thinking it was Woody Allen but I'm not sure. "
Thinking not, at least Woody, perhaps another one. Though you deleted my previous post to your question, offensive it was not. You leave me to respond only with the obscure, The parrot says, you know. Lord Acton indeed!
tia.
Many mean spirited people out there.
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It's still there right where you left it.
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And in the process missed out on the guy that came in right after him and bought at full pop, mop and glo, rust and dust, and financed at 15%. :P
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LOL... I was thinking the same thing.
5.9 is a great deal... if you don't like it just get your own financing. Just what ever you do don't bother with a draft check :sick:
GP
My credit union offers 5.29% for 60 months on new cars..
PenFed CU offers 4.5%..
Maybe, you guys need to get out more...
Or... maybe the F&I guy is getting most of the commission on your deals... :surprise:
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at least that is what they teach us in sales training
I thought it was 15% the words we use....68% tone of voice and 25% body language... GP
Don't know much about history, don't know what a sliderulers for (do they still have those around), but I do know 1 and 1 are 2. Guess Toy and Hondo do have different selling techniques!
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I am aware of those rates also :surprise:
As I said though you could get the money from anywhere... Maybe you could borrow it from the Mafia.... or Deskman
GP
That is a either or.... either rebate or special financing.
GP
Richard
You need to remember in most cases it's either low APR or cash, or at least some portion - some mfrs. have low APR plus bonus cash OR large cash. So if you pile cash discount then you need to go with commercial (market) rate - 5.9% is quite good for somebody below 750 score. You may find somebody giving you a few points less, perhaps 5.5% or so perhaps. OR - if you do want low APR, you will likely need to relinquish some of that discount. The same would be true in any other brand.
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Richard
I have been offered all rebates plus 0% from a Toyota dealer outside of Atlanta, more than $10k off sticker. I am definitely going to find out if it is a legit deal.
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
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I've learned, however, that my viewpoint is usually the opposite of the general buying public.
So how is the traffic in your showrooms this weekend? Is it a madhouse full of customers or do they all stay home and drink like me? :sick:
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
That's salesman's jargon for a person who pays full MSRP right?
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
2016 Audi A7 3.0T S Line, 2021 Subaru WRX
I have been offered all rebates plus 0% from a Toyota dealer outside of Atlanta, more than $10k off sticker. I am definitely going to find out if it is a legit deal.
As the saying goes, If it sounds too good to be true, it probably isn't., just came true! The Toyota dealer just tripped all over themselves backing off of their offer.
Thanks Traindriver ...... that was fun.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
-moo