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Acura TL vs 2007 Toyota Camry



  • yes it can Nick...the reliability on a TL is great plus the exterior and interior are much better then the Camry ..if your not on a budget swoop up a TL
  • I found a lot of humor in so many of these comments. I have a 1995 Honda Accord EX (V6, leather), and the 2007 TL is just like it. I could barely tell that I was driving a different car, except for the navigation screen! I first considered the TL because I still love driving my Honda (190k miles), and a friend who works at the dealership said I would have to move into the Acura line to get the same quality as my 1995 Accord. I subsequently heard the TL was called the European Accord or something.

    But the Camry Hybrid caught my attention. Both cars provided what I needed (reliability) and some of what I wanted (navigation, heated seats, etc.) within the same purchase price range that I thought appropriate. But by my estimates I would save about $8000 over 6 years going with the Camry Hybrid due to reduced fuel costs, the tax credit, and the slightly lower purchase price (MSRP for the Camry).

    Acura vs. Toyota isn't an issue for me. But I prefer the drive, power, looks, and navigation goodies of the TL. Is it worth $8000 to me? I haven't made up my mind. But I really understand why the cars are being compared by certain types of buyers.
  • I bought a new 06 Accord EX V6 NAV in may 06. In aug 06 I traded it in on a new 06 TL. BIG DIFFERENCE in EVERY way!!!! No comparison. Unless you drive like a grandpa! I just Traded the 06 TL in on a 07 TL Type S. A HUGH difference from the 06 TL!!! But I drive very aggressive!!! Jeff from Northern IL. :) :) :) :) :)
  • ggesqggesq Posts: 701

    So the 170hp Accord w/ 165lbs of torque felt the same to you as a 258hp TL w/233 lbs of torque?

    IMHO the interior between the 1995 accord and TL are vastly different.

    The TSX is the European Accord not the TL.
  • He said V6 Accord which I think sports 240 hp which is pretty much inline with the TL'S 258 HP.
  • I bought a new 06 Honda Accord EX V6 NAV Auto. I traded it in on an 06 TL. Even though they say 18 h.p. diff. It feels much more powerful!!! :) I now own a 2007 TL Type S which blows away my 06 TL. I have bought 3 new cars since May 06. I am finally where I will stay for at least 3 years. :) :)
  • ggesqggesq Posts: 701
    Nope. For the 95 MY Accord V6 it sported a 2.7liter, 170hp engine.
  • frisconickfrisconick Posts: 1,275
    The new generation Camry is a great looking car, but really does not compete with the TL-S. Maybe the XLE does compete with the standard TL.
  • starman98starman98 Posts: 119
    The Accord is the competitor for the Camry...the ES350 is sort of a competitor for the TL
  • frisconickfrisconick Posts: 1,275
    the xle is very nice, leather seats and all. But it's a different class, true.
  • Don't get me wrong, I love my Acura TL, but I find that the hands-free link is yet another half-baked feature on the car. After working with my Nokia 2165 for months, it suddenly quit. The phone is recognized, and will dial, but no voice. A trip to the dealer taught me that the system is only guaranteed to work with the very small handfull of APPROVED phones. Otherwise, it may not work at all, work partly or may quit after some time. There are hardly phones from the last century on the approved list, and you can see that nearly all of them work only PARTLY with the sytem! You can check this for yourself at

    I am FURIOUS about this. My company develops electronic products, including wireless, and it is clear that the Acura engineers didn't do a very good job designing the system to make it meet all the Bluetooth compatibility requirements. I can go out and buy ANY $20 hands free headset or 3rd party handfree kit and it will work immediately with ANY Bluetooth phone I may have - but NOT this $35K car unit! Thanks ACURA.

    SO - if your phone is not working properly with the car, check the list - it is probably not on it. This is a BIG oversight on the part of Acura engineering.

    FYI one of the other half-baked features is the so-called "surround sound" system. It ONLY works with DTS audio DVDs, so it has no effect on your CDs and the XM stereo. The algorithm to convert 2-channel stereo to surround is included FREE with the DTS license, but Acura decided NOT to install it. Why? Who knows. I only know that I am not going to replace all my CDs with DVDs, so the feature is as USELESS as the handsfree system.

    Just a heads-up for your consideration. I doubt that Toyota would release such systems that PARTLY work.
  • ggesqggesq Posts: 701
    If you think you have problems- 07 Camry owners/lessees have their hands full with transmission issues.

    If I had to choose between the two- the nod goes to the TL.
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    To be accurate..'.. some owners/lessees have...'

    With 400,000+ of these on the roads it is not as pervasive as many would have you believe from reading on the forums. If you count the very vocal posters here ( who I am certain do have signigicant issues ) it's less than 100 certainly.

    My wife and I just purchased a new Solara to replace her MR2. I will be monitoring it for any hesitation because the 'old' technology of the 5 Spd with the 3.3L was also DBW and potentially susceptible to it. My feeling from driving the Highlander ( same technology ) is that we will make it accustomed to our driving and vice versa.
  • ggesqggesq Posts: 701
    kd- good point. Not all Camry owners are experiencing the hesitation/transmission issue.

    Then again, not everyone has problems pairing their phones to the BT in the TL either.

    My nod still goes to the TL. ;)
  • eroc69eroc69 Posts: 56
    Im sure my post is alittle late but its still 100% honest.
    I just purchased an 07 Camry LE V6 with the 6 sp. auto.
    I had the chance to buy an 04 TL with Nav but it had 50K miles. Now I now thats not really high but in Pittsburgh it is very hard. Lotsa hills, potholes etc. I ended with the camry and am kicking myself for not getting the TL. I will have one in a year or 2.
  • justbassjustbass Posts: 11
    The title of your post is misleading.

    Why the change of heart so soon after just purchasing the Camry?

    What did you not like about the Camry that a test drive didn't reveal?
  • british_roverbritish_rover Posts: 8,458
    I realize this is an old post but there is something you don't know.

    Most cars with bluetooth have only a select few phones they will work 100% with. The Land Rovers I sell are like this and although they have gotten better every year there are still problems. The used BMWs that have bluetooth are the same way. Hey go try a mercedes with hands free phone service and good luck getting it to work with more then a couple of phones.
  • british_roverbritish_rover Posts: 8,458
    He was responding to this post that is why it looks misleading...

    automophile, "Acura TL vs 2007 Toyota Camry" #139, 11 Jan 2007 1:30 pm#138
  • kennyg8kennyg8 Posts: 225
    I just don't understand this type of comparo, as these two cars have distinctively different personalities. Why don't we compare the TL with the Sequoia? :confuse:
  • vlapintavlapinta Posts: 22
    Everyone has their opinions but as far as comparing Camry to Accord, I did just that and chose the Camry. I test drove both and though they drove similar to me the XLE V6 Camry definately looked beter inside and out. Maybe the 08 Accord might give the Camry a run for the money but in my opinion the 07 Camry was much nicer and I could have gotten the Accord for at least $2,000 less.

  • ctlctl Posts: 129
    TL vs Camry isn't that much diff from Accord vs Camry. Yes TL/Camry are in quite diff gift wrap, but not much diff underneath -> put in a stiffer suspension, diff sheet metal, bingo, here u go.
  • eroc69eroc69 Posts: 56
    Sorry it took long to reply. YES I replied to another post and thats why my 'title' is misleading. I also know that the TL is an entry level Luxo sport car NOT the Camry. THAT is a family car. I am having issues that cant show up in a test drive unless I get a 30 day test drive like Saturn used to do, thats NOT gonna happen. I feel that the ddriver power seat is just way too soft, like sitting on a bean bag chair or that its stuffed with cotton balls{exaggeration but still, the idea is there}
    The Camry has tons of positives, quiet, great MPGs, roomy,
    the ENGINE is amazing BUT it is in direct contradiction to the suspension, its like they said "Lets stuff a fast, SPORTY engine but screw the suspension, it still needs to ride like a Buick or Bonneville} THe skid pad ratings on a regular Camry are .01 % better than a CR-V. WOW, thats scary ;)
    I know its "Buyer Beware" ANd I wish I didnt fall for the Motor Trends Car of the year BS and wish I read up HERE b4 purchase.
    At least I bought this and not leased so when a yr or 2 pass, I can get out of it and into a used HOPEFULY better TL.
  • justbassjustbass Posts: 11
    My misunderstanding on the title comment.

    I agree with you on the Camry front seats = uncomfortable.

    I also agree with the ride = soft, but as a family sedan, I don't think it was meant to throw around, and never was in prior model years(I had owned a 89 V6 5 speed Camry, and kept it for 10 years).

    Now, as for the engine and trany problems with the V6, it's very scary to drop that kind of money on a "reliable" vehicle and be disappointed; Toyota needed to step up to the plate very quickly and rectify the major troubles with their products.

    I have crossed off (at least for this model year) the Toyota and the Lexus products.

    I have yet to take an Acura out for a drive, but the Accord was quite a bit noisier than the Camry.
  • eroc69eroc69 Posts: 56
    I test drove an 07 Accord LX maybe, special edition. It had very nice tight steering almost too tight{heavy} for city driving. The cloth seats also werent great BUT the leather package is much more padded. I read a few yrs ago, maybe here at Edmunds, that Honda {also most other manufacturers} add more padding to a leather seat than the cloth. I really wish I bookmarked that because Honda never admitted that when I had probloems with my CR-V or Accord.
    I can maybe just lose 30-40 pounds :P
  • zed421vzed421v Posts: 28
    I have a 2007 Camry V6. My wife has a 2007 Acura TL. They are both excellent cars. I find the biggest difference is in dealer service. I get sick to my stomach every time I take my Camry in for service. The dealers are arrogant, and the work never done correctly. The Acura dealers are courteous, and have fixed problems Toyota would just laugh off. I enjoy both cars but will stick with Acura for their fine service.
  • ctlctl Posts: 129
    Aren't you confusing the dealers with the cars? bring your Camry to lexus, then Camry becomes better than TL because of service?
  • zed421vzed421v Posts: 28
    Can I take my Camry to a Lexus dealer for service???????
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    ;) It'll cost you a bundle but why not? It's the same basic vehicle as an ES..
  • Camry is NOT in the same class as TL. You should compare Accord with Camary and compare TL with Lexus IS/ES. Dont compare apple to orange. It's wishful thinking.

    Well, ES is the same car as Camry but with more luxury features.

    TL and IS are sportier and are in the same class.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    TL and IS are sportier and are in the same class.

    I sorta disagree. At 6'4" the differences are REALLY apparent. The IS feels like a subcompact (I couldn't be comfortable in that car), while the TL is more the size of a 5-series BMW.
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