I just ordered a grey (meteorite) hatchback. I loaded it up a bit. I got the convenience package, side airbags, power package, automatic, foglights, abs, split rear seat, spoiler, 15" alloy wheels, and mud guards and matts.
Working with the dealership was an adventure. They had no clue as to what I could get and when. I put 500.00 down towards the 15,600 (ouch!) sticker price. I felt I had no leverage to negotiate since I was working them hard just to order it for me!
It took them over a week to check on the car. They called and said the only way I could get the car was to order it from Japan. "It might take four months to come in." I went ahead with the order. The first time I ever ordered a car. I hope they deliver without any fast-shuffle games. Any comments out there about ordering from Toyota? Comments in general? Thanks
If I were you I'd check each week with the allotment guy at your dealership to see what is out there. From what I've heard you may have a very long wait if you plan on ordering one that they'll make special in japan.
I finally got one sort of close to what I wanted. A silver hatchback. But I had to get some stuff added onto it that I didn't really want. But i'm pretty assured I'll have it in 3 or 4 weeks. I went down to my dealership every week and the allotment guy searched what was available and finally found the one sort of close to the one I wanted.
I've made repeated phone calls to a NYC Toyota dealer who insists that Toyota isn't manufacturing the hatchback with side airbags. I said, ok, maybe not in current inventory, but can I order one? He insisted that they just don't make them that way. ZZK, are you really getting a hatchback with side airbags? Does anyone know how I can get one in New York? (I also want manual 5-speed, the power package, anti-lock brakes and keyless entry).
your nyc toyota dealer is not telling you the truth. Or thier out to lunch. All you can buy here in the northwest are liftbacks with side air bags right now. At least thats all the liftbacks that were on the latest allotment.
The NYC dealer may be telling the truth. With Toyota, different regions have different options available for their region. I ran into this with the Prius a few years ago when I ordered one. Maybe the NY region is not getting any hatchbacks with side bags.
Going by edmund's price figures, are you guys paying closer to MSRP or Invoice?
I got quoted $15,150 for a Yaris sedan, auto trans, Power package and keyless entry system. This quote doesn't include processing fee of $225, tax of 3.2% and tags of $80.
I haven't purchased one yet... but the best price quote I've gotten so far is $14,650 + processing fee, tax and tags for a base Yaris sedan w/ Power package.
No sticker is pretty mcuh what you will pay inititally, and its only about $700 to $800 over invoice, so there is not a huge mark up. B/utgrab the car while you can and start saving on gas :-) Its $2.95 here in Lexington today for regular unleaded. Edmunds says people are paying invoice so I was okay to do the same, plus they are ordering the car the way I want and we locked in a deal on my trade if I dont sell it outright before then :-)
I went to SE Toyota web inventory and selected the car I wanted. (truth is a lot of them were not actually in inventory yet, but on the way or in port)
Mine is an S sedan with 5 speed and no options.
MSRP was 13973.00 Invoice was 13,600.00
Plus most of the dealers around here get a "dealer fee" and they all claim that it's not negotiable.
Any way, I offered 12,700.00 plus tax, tag, and dealer fee of 500.00
Final total 14087.00 out the door. So basically I bought the car for invoice.
Paid MSRP of $12,498 plus $299 doc fee plus taxes at Wolfchase Toyota in Memphis for 5-speed manual hatchback. These are fairly hard to find around here, didn't want to take a chance on loosing it to someone else.
Looks like a broker, why not just go directly to a dealer? I have shopped the Yaris a little and $250 to $600 over invoice is typical - although the spread between invoice and MSRP isn't much on these - on a stripped model there's only $600 in it (not counting holdback etc.).
I ordered my Yaris from Japan also, on April 11th, they advised me 6 to 8 weeks, its been 4 and they have not heard anything. They advised me that once it hits port its about 3 to 4 weeks, so Im thinking its going to be close to the 8 weeks, I will not accept 4 months. If they have problems getting it to me in the timeframe they quote I may decide to purchase a Corolla or if they get a Yaris close to my features, I may change to one that is available. I ordered a base flint mica with power windows, locks, keyless, security, and ABS as major options.
I am picking up my Yaris S/Auto on Friday. Have not negotiated the price yet. I am trading in my 2005 tc/Auto with 25,000 miles.
I am going to offer $16,500 (sticker is $17,051)for the Yaris S, want $14,000 for the tC (Edmunds has right around $14,000 but I also have the TRD exhaust which costs $400), and also ask for free oil/tire changes for life of car (as long as I am owner).
The Yaris is an overpriced $10K car. I don't know why anyone would pay $15K for this car when you could get a nicely equipped year old Corolla (which is leaps and bounds a nicer car) for the same or less money. Honda is apparently on the same drugs with the pricing of their Fit, which is also an overpriced $10K car.
Disagree. Had a Corolla for five years. Basically a great vanilla type car with no styling. The Yaris S provides a very nice looking car with the same interior space as the Corolla but at 39MPGs. And you can touch a Corolla S (year old) for cheap.
Both cars are very very good. I went with the Yaris due to MPGs and styling. And you see a ton of Corollas on the road whereas the Yaris is very uncommon and different.
Just picked up the second of two Yaris liftbacks for my "kids" for use at college. Both are automatics equipped with the convenience package (CQ), extra mile option package A (AO), and passenger arm rest (CR). Would have liked to have ABS and side curtain airbags but that would have meant a 4-5 month delay. We placed our order 4/5/06 and picked the cars up 5/9 and 5/10/06. Agreed price was $225 off MSRP. I've been tracking inventory activity (only the liftback automatics)since placing my order and here in the Houston area it looks like stock is holding steady around 7 units, with sales of 1-2 units a week. I'm happy and I love the cars. I will be driving one to California at the end of the month, so I'll report back on the Owner Test forum.
Congrats on getting the Yaris twins. Were you able to get the $225 off MSRP by buying two? I think for this car anything off MSRP is a pretty good deal.
well, here in the northeast, you can only get the yaris hatchback, with the convenient package, and the all weather/coldweather package. no side curtain airbags, no abs brakes. so the dealer gives me an msrp for that car with those options, plus 580$ destination charge. for 13170. hi invoice price was about 12400. he told me he couldnt go lower than the msrp. i laughted, and he balked back, "what do you want me to do? go downa hundred?" and i replied, what do you want me to do? pay the full MSRP???!! so i walked out. i went to another dealer and he had one on order, coming in two weeks, instead of the 6 to 8 weeks. i said if you can garuntee that in two weeks we got a deal. kerpow, he said its a coming, so i said 13000 is what i want it for. got it! cant wait to see it!
I'm leaning toward a yaris sedan (that's pretty much all we have locally....no hatches), but the dealers all have these two packages that are increasing the price... for value that I just can't see.
The extra mile package supposedly includes cargo mats, mud guards, roadside assistance for 36K miles, fabric guard, extended life tires, 6 year/100K mile "something" which wasn't specified on the sticker, and a cargo net...for $507.
The shield package supposedly has lusterizing sealant, soundproofing, sealant cleaner, and rental car assistance for $349.
That's approaching $900 in extra "stuff"! The sheild package sounds really bogus to me. And the extra mile package doesnt' say *what* the 6year/100K mile line item is for. $500 sounds pricey for cargo mats, cargo net, and fabric guard. The rest of it sounds suspect to not be something you'll actually use or need. How much longer life do the tires have? What are the limitations to the 6/100 warranty and the roadside assistance. I've seen so many companies balk at fulfilling service based obligations that I'm hesitant to pay for it.
What do you folks think? Did your cars come with these packages? Can you expalin them to me in greater detail? Do you think they're worth almost $900?
My opinion is to NOT get those options. I see many dealers taking the economy cars that they don't get much profit for selling and then tacking on unneeded options which have a GREAT markup and profit for the dealers. The fabric guard is a rip as you can go get a can of Scotchguard for less than $10 and DIY in less than 10 minutes.
Mine is not coming with this package and I am glad.
Yup...that's the same feeling I have. I'm miffed to say the least that *every* yaris on the lot has these bogus packages on 'em. It makes me want to shy away from that dealership. Tacking almost $900 of "fluff stuff" that's pure profit onto each car defeats the purpose of even trying to sell inexpensive, small cars. It looks like to me that sticking obvious markup items on these cars is driving away the very buyers that you should be courting.
Anyway...I'll have to see what I can negotiate to get a car without that stuff built into the price. I'd hate to buy it from somewhere else since the local guys might have a "problem" servicing a car that I bought from somewhere else. Then again...maybe the service shop doesn't play favorites???
folks its all about the markup. Ceci, if you can wait 6 to 8 weeks for a yaris, then you are better off ordering it with what you want, minus the added junk. i live in NY and here, they told me i couldnt order it with anything except the convenience package and the all weather package. it seems the dealers in the northeast get together and decide on how they want to sell these cars, and offer them to the public. at least here in NY they didnt try to force added junk on my car, they just want me to keep it as an econo car. i was told they did not want this car to compete against the corolla. its true they make very little off this car. but dont be fooled by the dealers claims that they cannot come down in price they can. remember. the MOST a dealer pays for a car is the invoice. more than likely, they pay less, or get back bonus dollars for selling those cars. i would be very forward, in the asking price, maybe two to three hundred over the invoice price. alot of places will freak out for you trying to low ball them. but in reality you arent. trust me you will find a dealer to play ball with you. my buddy used to be a car salesman and tuned me in to some of their ploys. a huge help to me was to find out what toyota dealer sells alot of cars per month.(the place i went to sells about 200 a month) you can call any of them and ask them what their average is. the more cars sold, the more likely they will let you take the car for whatever you want. bigger sales leads to monster kickbacks to the managers. so i think i have ranted enough here. its a shame that in your area they are trying to sell you junk with your car. good luck, and where are you from anyway?
the msrp's and invoice prices are very close with these cars. a good bet is to meet them halfway between the invoice and the msrp. good luck, ok im out! PS i had one salseman tell me "what do you want me to do, come down 100 from the msrp?" and i replied, what do you expect me to do, pay the msrp? lol good luck and have fun ok now im really out
Thanks. I do think I'll wait. When other 2007's hit the market, there will be more competition. (ie when the nissan versa comes out or the new scion) I'm in MS. What's odd is that I would have thought that in this area (where unemployment rate is 10% and salaries are low) that the dealer would be focusing on selling cars quickly and as cheap as they could versus adding on junk that people can tell is pure profit. Oh well...who am I to tell them how to run their business.
I'll check other dealerships in MS (and AL if I need to) to find one that'll sell me a car without silly packages. FWIW...I understand how it can drive you nuts to try to get one of these little cars tricked out. Most subcompact/mini cars around here are stripped down...only come with automatic. I've been considering many cars, not just the yaris....also the fit, rio, focus, and versa. Good luck finding any new car here with a premium stereo option. Trying to make sure I get cruise control, manual transmission and a premium stereo/mp3 player has been driving me crazy when all the dealers have their mind made up for all the cars to be basic level and automatic ...*period*.
Thanks for the insider info. I'll work from invoice and go from dealer to dealer until I find one who'll play.
I still haven't negotiated my price but I am starting at $500 over invoice and also asking for six oil changes. I might be somewhat limited as I am also trading in my Scion tC. Many times they will give on one and take back on the other. I am not much of a haggler. But these type cars only have a very minor markup; ie $1000.
That's correct. I live in Michigan. Here, I can get a sedan with the power package, but I cannot get a liftback with the power package. What few liftbacks are in this area are generally equipped with All Weather Guard and Convenience packages only.
I used to sell new cars. All that stuff is what we considered the "back end" of the deal, because we didn't include them up front as included options. The car came as it came and we tried to sell these accessories at point of sale. That is why it was called the back end of the deal. Customers had the option of passing on all this garbage. And it is garbage. It's all high-markup stuff.
I believe Scion actually started this trend within Toyota with accesories offered at point of sale to boost dealer profit. The center armrest for an xA is $135. For all this stuff to be included up front as part of the deal is bad. This dealer is shady.
Sure, there isn't much markup in the Yaris, but the way for the dealer to make a little money is to hold near the MSRP.
Heck, when the PT Cruiser first came out is was $3,000 above sticker. The new Z06 Corvette is $10,000 to $20,000 above sticker. Any car can be priced according to market dynamics.
The Yaris is hot right now. I am trying to get a liftback and the dealers are selling them 2-3 weeks before arrival. They aren't even on the dog-gone lot and are sold out. I see these going above sticker real soon. I need to get mine quickly, but they can't locate it and the exact one I want isn't in the pipeline.
I know I probably read like a shill for Toyota or the whole segment in general, but it is true.
Similar story with the Nissan Versa. Nissan keeps upping the starting MSRP because the sub-compact and compact hatchback segments are red hot right now. The Yaris, Fit, Versa, Mazda3, Rio, etc... all offer SUV-like utility at a great price with equally-great fuel economy.
The fluff stuff that you are referring to is a standard package added throughout Toyota's Southern Region. I have checked several other regions and they all price the Yarii the same right down to the dollar. I am not sure what states are in this region, but I know that they include all of Arkansas and Mississippi, and probably Louisiana and Alabama. If you live in Mississippi, Memphis is probably the closest location to you outside your region. I just checked the three Memphis Toyota Dealers and between them, they have 5 Yarii in stock, no hatchbacks. If you can get any of them below invoice I would be surprised, but at least they are not adding fluff stuff, only the standard Toyota packages.
it seems alot of you on here are worried about getting one. you just need to order it. i just happend to luck out, when i walked into a toyota dealer and he already had one allocated, due in two weeks. and i got it for 400 under their sticker price. this i know was due to the dealership having high monthly sales. 12900 for the hatch with the convenience pckg, and the all weather pkg. i probably could have gone a bit lower.basically all the yaris' you see on the lots are already sold. i think this is a ploy from toyota to generate hype. to cause the price to rise. dont be scared to ask for a low price. call aheae of time and ask someone how many cars they sell a month. and rememebr almost anything they tell you about what they can do on the price is a LIE. they do this everyday, you do this once every 5 to 10 years. they know that if they hold their ground 90% of ppl will crumble and pay their price. meet them halfway between the invoice and the msrp, and dont budge from it. when you walk out, i bet someoen will call you later that day. thats just my 2 cents
How many more months are you willing to drive that gas guzzler to save $400 bucks? I think that you will be doing a lot of walking out. Unless you live in an area with lots of Toyota dealers, it seems like a lot of hassle to save a little money.
very true hanson, i hadn't thought about that. i guess where i live, i am lucky that there are about 10 toyota dealer ships withing a 60 mile radius . so it was easier to negotiate. i did not go to all 10, but three. it was the third one that took the price i wanted to pay.
How much are you willing to plunk down on a new car just to 'save money' on gas? For most people, unless you're driving a whole lot, and/or going from a big SUV to one of these (whether it's a Yaris, Fit, Rio, Corolla, Civic, Scion), it isn't necessarily wise to go out and buy a new car ostensibly to save gas, aka money, especially if trade-in values on larger vehicles are as crummy as I think they are. Just my $.02.
If it's all the same, $400 savings on a new car will buy the difference between 12000 miles of $2 gas and $3 gas on a car that gets 30 mpg, right?
Traded in my tC to get the Yaris S. Was not able to negotiate anything down from the $17,010 sticker. My dealer has sold every Yaris that has come in and they are not coming down in price. However, they did give me $250 more for my tC than Kelley/Edmunds.
i am on the flip side, as i drive over 100 miles a day. the car (or boat i should say) only got 20 miles to the gallon. so making the switch to the yaris was key.
I wanted a liftback with the power package (with alloys), cold weather package, ABS and keyless entry.
I went to half a dozen New Jersey dealerships and none could help me. Some lied and said they wouldn't be making the liftback with the power package or the Sedan-S either - what they meant was they weren't coming into NJ and they weren't willing to locate one for me.
I left a deposit with a local dealer who I've dealt with before to find me one in Pennsylvania. In the meantime, I searched dealer inventories on the dealer sites that would allow it and found one in Philadelphia with the power package (no alloys), cold weather package, ABS, keyless entry and floor mats.
I called them up and asked if it were still available. While they were checking, I called my dealer and asked why they hadn't made a deal for that car. They called me back and said it was sold but they had one in port just like it so I cancelled with the Jersey dealer and bought from the Philly dealer. I can add alloys myself for about what they cost in the package price and have a distinctive style to boot.
With all the trouble I had finding one how I wanted it, I was willing to pay msrp. I didn't really have a great bargaining position.
I was nearly ready to give up and buy the Honda Fit which is in many respects a nicer car, but something about the Yaris Liftback's styling really grabs me.
Man, what a hassle just to get the car. The dealers want the sale but none of the work that goes with it. Luckily my dealer was able to do a dealer exchange with another one so I had my car one day after I selected the Yaris S.
I wonder how much the dealer would have gone out of his/her way if you were looking at a $30,000 vehicle....?? Think we all know the answer.
I'm a little surprised by all the negative talk about this car. Every situation is different. Ours is that we (wife and I) have been sharing my Jeep for a year getting about 16 mpg. We wanted a car for her that would get good gas mileage and be dependable. She tested several cars. Toyota got high marks for their reputation of reliability of course but that alone wasn't the decision maker. The bottom line is this: She was excited about the Yaris. She likes it. To her, it's cute and fun. It's the perfect car for her right here, right now.
That and the money saved in gas is almost 65% of the new payment. No brainer. Ignore the people who pick everything apart. This is a GOOD car, at a decent price with (relatively!) excellent gas mileage.
Recently relocated from the US to Sydney and picked up a black -- YR 4 door hatch (I belive this is not sold in the US) 1.3L - Automatic - "Safety Package" (i.e. extra airbags) -- the YR comes standard with AC/MP3 Audio/Power Locks..Windows/Keyless entry in Australia. Purchased from Sydney City toyota (the only dealership owned by Toyota in Sydney.) At first they told me it would take months -- but then located one on a ship headed for Australia and I had it 2 days later. Ended up with the car for $19,700AUD on the road including Dealer Delivery/Rego/Lic/and CTP Green Slip (liability insurance.) Not sure if Toyota owns any dealerships in the US -- but going direct seemed to be the key.
Gave up my new Volvo S40 in the states -- but love the Yaris. With petrol at $1.60/L --- the Yaris runs about $50-60AUD for a fillup. I find that I am only having to re-fuel once a month (usually walk to work).
Toyota's European design center, ED2, began operations in May 2000 at Sophia Antipolis, near Nice. Both the Yaris and the all-new Corolla Verso were developed by the designers at ED2.
Toyota's European design center, ED2, began operations in May 2000 at Sophia Antipolis, near Nice. Both the YAt ED2 we would like to utilize the experiences gained from EPOC to generate many outstanding new designs at Sophia Antipolis (Science Park; the site of the new operation) with its creative environment. We aim to provide cars that will satisfy European customers, as well as customers around the world who prefer European design," Kato said, singling out the Yaris and Yaris Verso, winners of the European Car of the Year in 2000 award, as examples of Toyota's understanding of European values.
I just went into the dealership today and drove away in my brand new Yaris Hatch (automatic) in white. It was the only hatch they had (and apparetnly the only one in all the dealers i called) and it was on the showroom floor.
It has a lot of junk in it that i didnt neccesarily need but it was so cute i couldnt resist. It also had a factory installed passive alarm with key remote.
She originally tried to play off the alarm as being included in teh sticker price. Well then she turned around after i signed and said it was 995 bucks plus an additional 375 admin fee. Bah... no way. Anyway i walked off with it at $14,180 (plus tax & tags - no processing fee). Its alittle more than i wanted to spend but i just fell madly in love with it. It also didnt help the fact that 2 people walked in while i was signing stuff who came in to buy that exact car. I was like "sorry its mine".
Anyway i didnt expect to buy this car tonight. I probably got ripped off but im too happy to care right now. What do you all think??
Under the circumstances, I think that you did as well as can be expected. Hatchbacks are pretty hard to come by in most places. None have been in stock at the three Memphis dealers for weeks now. I am sure that you will be very happy with your new car.
I think you did fine on your purchase price. In light of the supply (almost nonexistent) and demand (very high, especially for small high mileage Japanese cars with low buy in price) you got a great deal. Congratulations for not letting them mark it up $1,370. The extra you paid got you a passive alarm (which is good, as I recollect the Yaris doesn't come with an antitheft, chip in the key, key).
Wow . . . $17,010, plus TTL for a Yaris! Just think, a Yaris is segmented below the Corolla and Camry, and there is certainly evidence of price creep given the current market demand and gas situation.
My sister bought a new 2006 Camry LE auto just a few months ago for $17,900, INCLUDING TTL. Although I love the new Yaris, I would much rather have a Camry, even an '06, at essentially the same price. She's getting 35MPG on the highway with the Camry, and I could certainly live with that.
Well the dealer gave me a VIN number today and said it should be arriving in about a week. Im getting pretty excited and actually might have an interested party in selling my vehicle and making $1500 abover the dealers trade. Ive never sold a car so I have to research what needs to be done at point of sale, I will keep you all informed on when I get my Yaris, I will then need help with an aftermarket keyless entry/maybe security system, it doesn't do much for insurance, but they said the toyota keyless is strictly an at port add on. So ill deal with that seperate.
So i WANT the Toyota Yaris Liftback in grey/silver. I just went to a local dealership in SI NY and the salesperson told me that they are selling out like hotcakes. The features I want are power locks, windows, and antilock brakes. he told me he would have to order it and it would be 3 months with the price of 15,200K. I won't pay more than 14,500k, and am willing to wait though I have a terrible itch to get this car asap! Any adivice on recent purchases in Staten Island Tri-state area? Thanks. I won't settle for the sedan - this liftback is so cute!
I bought mine in LI NY and i paid 14.2 w/o power or ABS. What i did get was in the car already that was on the lot (actually showroom floor and the only one in stock at the time - and they didnt even have any on order to come in). It came with spoiler, mats, bumber guards, armrest, passive alarm, and some other crap i didnt need but got. I really really wanted the power and if it was any other car i wouldve waited but i didnt want to wait for this one (in white - the color i wanted!) and after several calls and reading online they dont seem to be getting many liftbacks with power or ABS in NY, and in most cases they need to be ordered. I also think the Liftback is WAY cuter than the sedan... i fell in love at first site, hence why i got it w/o it being equipped with all the goodies i want but im still really happy (also i havent seen one person yet with it and have gotten a lot of stares, so that in itself is pretty cool too).
Thanks for the info. I am like you, I am so inlove with this car! I decided that I won't go with the ABS but am still interested in keyless entry and power windows. It looks like I might have to order the car with those features... I can't imagine having to wait, but I know it will be worth it. I agree, the liftback is MUCh cuter than the sedan. I am so anxious to get it already! I am jealous of you!
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Working with the dealership was an adventure. They had no clue as to what I could get and when. I put 500.00 down towards the 15,600 (ouch!) sticker price. I felt I had no leverage to negotiate since I was working them hard just to order it for me!
It took them over a week to check on the car. They called and said the only way I could get the car was to order it from Japan. "It might take four months to come in." I went ahead with the order. The first time I ever ordered a car. I hope they deliver without any fast-shuffle games. Any comments out there about ordering from Toyota? Comments in general? Thanks
I finally got one sort of close to what I wanted. A silver hatchback. But I had to get some stuff added onto it that I didn't really want. But i'm pretty assured I'll have it in 3 or 4 weeks. I went down to my dealership every week and the allotment guy searched what was available and finally found the one sort of close to the one I wanted.
I got quoted $15,150 for a Yaris sedan, auto trans, Power package and keyless entry system. This quote doesn't include processing fee of $225, tax of 3.2% and tags of $80.
Final out the door price is approx. $16,000.
Do you think the price can be better?
Thanks
I haven't purchased one yet... but the best price quote I've gotten so far is $14,650 + processing fee, tax and tags for a base Yaris sedan w/ Power package.
Mine is an S sedan with 5 speed and no options.
MSRP was 13973.00 Invoice was 13,600.00
Plus most of the dealers around here get a "dealer fee" and they all claim that it's not negotiable.
Any way, I offered 12,700.00 plus tax, tag, and dealer fee of 500.00
Final total 14087.00 out the door. So basically I bought the car for invoice.
So I'm amused that everyone in this thread seems to be talking about the liftbacks.
(I wound up with an Elantra 5-door, and am silly happy with it.)
I am going to offer $16,500 (sticker is $17,051)for the Yaris S, want $14,000 for the tC (Edmunds has right around $14,000 but I also have the TRD exhaust which costs $400), and also ask for free oil/tire changes for life of car (as long as I am owner).
Any other ideas?
Thanks.
Both cars are very very good. I went with the Yaris due to MPGs and styling. And you see a ton of Corollas on the road whereas the Yaris is very uncommon and different.
Kevin
Kevin
The extra mile package supposedly includes cargo mats, mud guards, roadside assistance for 36K miles, fabric guard, extended life tires, 6 year/100K mile "something" which wasn't specified on the sticker, and a cargo net...for $507.
The shield package supposedly has lusterizing sealant, soundproofing, sealant cleaner, and rental car assistance for $349.
That's approaching $900 in extra "stuff"! The sheild package sounds really bogus to me. And the extra mile package doesnt' say *what* the 6year/100K mile line item is for. $500 sounds pricey for cargo mats, cargo net, and fabric guard. The rest of it sounds suspect to not be something you'll actually use or need. How much longer life do the tires have? What are the limitations to the 6/100 warranty and the roadside assistance. I've seen so many companies balk at fulfilling service based obligations that I'm hesitant to pay for it.
What do you folks think? Did your cars come with these packages? Can you expalin them to me in greater detail? Do you think they're worth almost $900?
Thanks,
Ceci
Mine is not coming with this package and I am glad.
Kevin
Anyway...I'll have to see what I can negotiate to get a car without that stuff built into the price. I'd hate to buy it from somewhere else since the local guys might have a "problem" servicing a car that I bought from somewhere else. Then again...maybe the service shop doesn't play favorites???
Thanks for the advice.
Ceci
I'll check other dealerships in MS (and AL if I need to) to find one that'll sell me a car without silly packages. FWIW...I understand how it can drive you nuts to try to get one of these little cars tricked out. Most subcompact/mini cars around here are stripped down...only come with automatic. I've been considering many cars, not just the yaris....also the fit, rio, focus, and versa. Good luck finding any new car here with a premium stereo option. Trying to make sure I get cruise control, manual transmission and a premium stereo/mp3 player has been driving me crazy when all the dealers have their mind made up for all the cars to be basic level and automatic ...*period*.
Thanks for the insider info. I'll work from invoice and go from dealer to dealer until I find one who'll play.
Ceci
Kevin
I used to sell new cars. All that stuff is what we considered the "back end" of the deal, because we didn't include them up front as included options. The car came as it came and we tried to sell these accessories at point of sale. That is why it was called the back end of the deal. Customers had the option of passing on all this garbage. And it is garbage. It's all high-markup stuff.
I believe Scion actually started this trend within Toyota with accesories offered at point of sale to boost dealer profit. The center armrest for an xA is $135. For all this stuff to be included up front as part of the deal is bad. This dealer is shady.
Sure, there isn't much markup in the Yaris, but the way for the dealer to make a little money is to hold near the MSRP.
Heck, when the PT Cruiser first came out is was $3,000 above sticker. The new Z06 Corvette is $10,000 to $20,000 above sticker. Any car can be priced according to market dynamics.
The Yaris is hot right now. I am trying to get a liftback and the dealers are selling them 2-3 weeks before arrival. They aren't even on the dog-gone lot and are sold out. I see these going above sticker real soon. I need to get mine quickly, but they can't locate it and the exact one I want isn't in the pipeline.
I know I probably read like a shill for Toyota or the whole segment in general, but it is true.
Similar story with the Nissan Versa. Nissan keeps upping the starting MSRP because the sub-compact and compact hatchback segments are red hot right now. The Yaris, Fit, Versa, Mazda3, Rio, etc... all offer SUV-like utility at a great price with equally-great fuel economy.
Sorry to digress and go long.
Rip
If it's all the same, $400 savings on a new car will buy the difference between 12000 miles of $2 gas and $3 gas on a car that gets 30 mpg, right?
Love the car so far.
Kevin
I wanted a liftback with the power package (with alloys), cold weather package, ABS and keyless entry.
I went to half a dozen New Jersey dealerships and none could help me. Some lied and said they wouldn't be making the liftback with the power package or the Sedan-S either - what they meant was they weren't coming into NJ and they weren't willing to locate one for me.
I left a deposit with a local dealer who I've dealt with before to find me one in Pennsylvania. In the meantime, I searched dealer inventories on the dealer sites that would allow it and found one in Philadelphia with the power package (no alloys), cold weather package, ABS, keyless entry and floor mats.
I called them up and asked if it were still available. While they were checking, I called my dealer and asked why they hadn't made a deal for that car. They called me back and said it was sold but they had one in port just like it so I cancelled with the Jersey dealer and bought from the Philly dealer. I can add alloys myself for about what they cost in the package price and have a distinctive style to boot.
With all the trouble I had finding one how I wanted it, I was willing to pay msrp. I didn't really have a great bargaining position.
I was nearly ready to give up and buy the Honda Fit which is in many respects a nicer car, but something about the Yaris Liftback's styling really grabs me.
I wonder how much the dealer would have gone out of his/her way if you were looking at a $30,000 vehicle....?? Think we all know the answer.
Kevin
That and the money saved in gas is almost 65% of the new payment. No brainer. Ignore the people who pick everything apart. This is a GOOD car, at a decent price with (relatively!) excellent gas mileage.
Gave up my new Volvo S40 in the states -- but love the Yaris. With petrol at $1.60/L --- the Yaris runs about $50-60AUD for a fillup. I find that I am only having to re-fuel once a month (usually walk to work).
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For whatever reason -- the Yaris sold in AU and UK seem to come with all of the extras as Standard. In the UK -- the Yaris even has the bluetooth key!
www.toyota.com.au
www.toyota.co.uk
It has a lot of junk in it that i didnt neccesarily need but it was so cute i couldnt resist. It also had a factory installed passive alarm with key remote.
Here are the specs:
Automatic
Convience package
Door guards
Bumber guard
Spoiler
Floor mats & Cargo Mats
Armrest
and passive alarm (not included in MSRP)
Sticker was 13,750 MSRP (approx)
She originally tried to play off the alarm as being included in teh sticker price. Well then she turned around after i signed and said it was 995 bucks plus an additional 375 admin fee. Bah... no way. Anyway i walked off with it at $14,180 (plus tax & tags - no processing fee). Its alittle more than i wanted to spend but i just fell madly in love with it. It also didnt help the fact that 2 people walked in while i was signing stuff who came in to buy that exact car. I was like "sorry its mine".
Anyway i didnt expect to buy this car tonight. I probably got ripped off but im too happy to care right now. What do you all think??
My sister bought a new 2006 Camry LE auto just a few months ago for $17,900, INCLUDING TTL. Although I love the new Yaris, I would much rather have a Camry, even an '06, at essentially the same price. She's getting 35MPG on the highway with the Camry, and I could certainly live with that.
So i WANT the Toyota Yaris Liftback in grey/silver. I just went to a local dealership in SI NY and the salesperson told me that they are selling out like hotcakes. The features I want are power locks, windows, and antilock brakes. he told me he would have to order it and it would be 3 months with the price of 15,200K. I won't pay more than 14,500k, and am willing to wait though I have a terrible itch to get this car asap! Any adivice on recent purchases in Staten Island Tri-state area? Thanks. I won't settle for the sedan - this liftback is so cute!