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2013 and Earlier - Audi Q7 Prices Paid and Buying Experience

Please use the following discussion to post your experiences when shopping for an Audi A7, including how much you paid if you'd like. Thanks.
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Taxes in the lease payment
36 months
12K per year
Audi Care
Panoramic Sunroof
Cold Weather package
Quartz Gray Metallic Paint
$910 a month, which I had to negotiate for a lot...but a price before that was $925 easy.
Let me know if this was a good deal please.
MSRP was 62,375, don't know about any other factors, don't care, all I care is monthly fee that I will pay.
I am pleased with the deal since some others are paying $3K - $5K over MSRP for fully loaded versions ($65K+).
It is an awesome vehicle.
The 3.6's will not be arriving for a couple of months. I would recommend calling your dealer and seeing what their incoming inventory looks like and how many of those are unspoken for. This should give you a good idea of possible discounts.
Someone on the Q7 Lease forum stated they have inked a deal for a loaded 3.6 ($55K) and got $1300 off MSRP.
Please keep us updated.
Just as a bit of futher information, my Q7 has been in the shop for repairs as the MMI blew out for the last 10 days and the service dept quickly organized a 'loaner Q7' brand new with 100 miles on the clock. That vehicle sticker price is $55,620 but the paperwork in the glove compartment is the lease documentation for the car which shows a purchase price from Audi of America of $42,339.
I don't think that I'm supposed to have seen that information, somehow...
I'm in the process of negotiating to buy a pair of Audi Q7 Premium's loaded to the gills. I've talked to several dealers. One just offered to sell the cars for $500 over "invoice" each.
When it came time to begin writing up the contracts, 2 new charges miraculously appeared. One is called “NY Upstate Dealer Advertising Group” for $300, and the other is called “Preparation and Inspection” at $195.
I’ve searched here and Consumer Reports and can not find either of these charges listed. The dealer is insisting that these are both charges that the dealership pays and that they are billed by the manufacturer. He even gave me a copy of another Q7’s invoice that does in fact show both charges. That invoice carries a notice on the bottom that reads “Prices illustrated above are subject to change prior to drafting and final shipment”.
I had arrived at a price by simply adding up the wholesale price of the car and each option selected and then adding the “Destination Charge”. I thought that by simply adding another $500 I’d have the price of the car. These "extra charges" adds another $495 to the deal.
Re these charges for real – or is it a scam?
Does the manufacturer rebate this to the dealers to allow them more profit – beyond invoice – in a manner like holdback?
By the way, I’m told that Audi does not do “holdback”. Edmund’s site shows none. There appear to be no promotions available for Q7’s yet. Does anyone have any knowledge of this?
Thanks!
OK, the deal is done and I'll share details. I understand that it's not proper to post dealer names here - but I'll give you enough that you can figure it out if you really care to. The dealer is telling me that he's not happy with the deal "I'm not making any money on this..." and he does not want others trying to get the same deal. That said... give it a shot.
I can tell you that I've been very disappointed by the sales experience thus far. Unprofessional and shabby would be the way to describe these folks. I've purchased quite a few high end cars before (numerous brands) and when you are buying a pair of $66,000 MSRP cars - you expect that the salespeople will be somewhat more polished than your garden variety used car polyester suit types. Follow up has been poor. Did not know answers to many questions asked. I hope the service dept. is better.
The deal is $750 over what Edmunds and Consumer Reports show as "invoice" + a $45 fee for getting the car registered.
Deal done at a dealership in N*w Y*rk at a dealership in the Alb*ny area. This one is in the location that starts with the letter "L".
I can tell you that I had a bid from a Vermont Dealer (K*inney) and a salesperson named Johann. He was extremely professional - a true pleasure to work with. Price came in a little bit higher (not too much) and they are a bit farther away. Otherwise I would have loved to have bought from that fellow. If you are in his neighborhood track him down. I think you will be impressed and treated well.
So bottom line is $800 over “invoice” for out the door. The online services do not show the $300 Advertising fee the dealer insists is above invoice. I’ve been told (here on the forum) that this is legitimate. I’m told there is no holdback on this Audi. So the dealers real mark-up is $500 – this seems fair to me.
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OK. I guess it just my preference not to say any names at this time. Perhaps later.
Thanks.
0.0034 seems really high. My MF was less than half that. Check the Q7 lease forum for current MF and Residual numbers.
It sounds as though your dealer is taking advantage of you. Maybe they are hoping to make a quick buck on the first 3.6's coming in. I got one of the first 4.2 Q7's and was very happy with the deal ($54K) I got from Audi Mission Viejo in CA.
I am looking at a 4.2 with premium... mf is .0125 for a 36mo lease and I said I wouln't pay msrp.. which is 58k... we are still negotiating price.
Any thoughts?
Also.. is having the dynamic suspension easier or harder to sell? it is more expensive, but I am wondering if that makes it harder to sell..so they can deal on them. The one we are looking at for 58k doesn not have it.
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MSRP $54,660
Selling price $53,346
36 month lease, 10K miles
61% residual, .00155 MF
Bank fee and 8.625% sales tax rolled into payment
Monthly payment $777.34
Security deposit waived (current VW Credit customer--Passat for wife)
Due at delivery: first payment plus DMV fees.
I believe it's a great deal. Any comments?
Your residual is higher, and MF much lower than what I've been quoted - would you mind providing the Dealer? I have no problem searching outside my state for a vehicle. I've been offered 69/59% (24/36 months w/12k mpy) and 0.0024.
Thanks in advance.
Dealer is Audi of Huntington (NY). Delivery was perfect. No surprises. Dealer even picked me up at my house and drove me to the dealership so I could leave my other car home. I even got him to split the cost of the scheduled maintenance package (no longer included for free by Audi).
Right there is your bargaining chip. Negotiate with Audi, and tell them you need a better deal or you will just wait for the X5 (you can also use the upcoming Acura MDX as leverage). If they want to move a car today, they'll work with you. Residuals and money factors are not negotiable, but selling price is. If they want you to buy now, they can sweeten the deal by lowering the selling price. I got $1300 off sticker without really trying. Each additional $100 off means about $3 less per month on your lease payment, so it pays to negotiate.
I have to believe the new X5 will take a little while before the deals get attractive. After 2 days with my 3.6, I can tell you the Q7 is one sweet ride!
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Don't do business with someone like that, go to another salesman or different Dealer. The salesman I worked with was willing to discuss the deal as I requested - cost over invoice.
BTW - we ended up Leasing a Volvo XC90. My wife is happy with it therefore so am I.
Where specifically in No. Cal? I have never seen up close and personal but am intrigued with the vehicle along with the 07 X5 and 07 MDX.
- Monochrome MMI screen.
- Black treatment around windows and on rack.
- Does the base 3.6 has a trip computer?
I road tested a 3.6 Premium and it was great, much better than the Touareg 3.6 I just tested. The Q7 is much tighter, better acceleration (odd, it's the same engine...) and much more room in the back.
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MSRP: $40,620
Invoice: $38,327
Selling price: $38,927
24 month
10k - 69%
$503.68
12k - 68%
$520.31
36 month
10k - 59%
$462.13
12k - 58%
$473.11
From dealer:
The invoice you got from edmunds is accurate, but leaves out several fees a dealer is charged before getting the car in stock. First and most obvious is the $720 destination fee. $195 "port prep/delivery" fee. $175 Pre-Delivery Inspection (PDI) fee. Lastly a $300 "Ad" fee charged onevery car which pays for Audi to run TV and print ad's in the area
Can you please advise me if this deal is ok. Also I never heared of port prep/delivery" fee, Pre-Delivery Inspection (PDI) fee and ad fee? Their invoice price include these numbers
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
2007 Audi Q7
Of course, that doesn't mean that is the number you copied down.. you may have grabbed the number without destination from a previous page.
But, anyway... Looks like the dealer wants to pop you with $670 in extra fees and a $600 profit? He is probably telling the truth about the ad fee.. that is on a lot of cars and varies regionally.. The port prep and PDI fees? I have no idea if they are on the invoice or not.
That stated, this is the base model with the least spread between MSRP and invoice.. Even if he has no other costs above Edmunds invoice, his gross profit is only $1270 on a $40K car..
Unless there are incentives, or the Q7 is just not moving, I'd say that is a fair deal. But, I haven't been following that market, so caveat emptor.
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kyfdx
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Hmmm...I didn't see anywhere where it says that Edmunds invoice includes the destination fee
see this link: http://www.edmunds.com/new/2007/audi/q7/100743967/prices.html
Also how did you come up with his gross profit of $1270 on a $40K car..?
he gave me better deal. it's $38327. I'think I'll pull the triggir..
When I tried to lower the price to $3800 he said that your "National base price" is only the top number in
a list of fees that no dealer profits on....I hate when they say that. I think there is no holdback on Aidi, so I couldn't mention that..
Thanks a Lot Audi_man. You save me some $$ My base 3.6 total now $38,152. Incl $720 destination fee. I think it is a good price
Now I can start adding some extra packages....
PDI fee
Advertising fee
$600 markup over invoice.
= $1270..
Just assuming those fees are bogus..
Like I said, I don't follow the market, but that at least seems reasonable..
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It would be great to find out what is $195 Non-Negotiable Port Charge is.. Does anyone know about this ? Thanks in advance.
These are my final numbers:
$36,937 Base 3.6
$1,820 Comfort
$1,684 Sunroof
$720 Dest. Fee
$195 Non-Negotiable Port Charge
$300 Non-Negotiable Regional Ad fee
$600 Gross profit??
Total $42,256
What do you think guys?
I'll try to remove those $195
I know I couldn't run my dealership that way...
You can make your money on the next guy..
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That is crazy... how can the dealership stay in business?
That is Gross Profit on this one vehicle.....after all the other expenses, it looks like the car is being sold at a loss.
Also I believe the national base invoice price is always higher than the amount the dealer actually ends up paying to the manufacturer
Simply look at the total price you are paying, and decide if it is reasonable for your circumstances.
One doesn't look at the cost of the individual components of the car, nuts. bolts, washers, so I think these individual items added post manufacturing, freight, advertising etc. are simply line items to bolster the bottom line of the dealer, and in my opinion, that is OK...as long as you compare it with like deals for other cars.
You should not concern yourself with the dealers profit...just the cost of the car to you. The buyer is not in a position to decide what is, or is not a reasonable profit for the dealer