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2019 C43 MF & RV

dfennigdfennig Member Posts: 21
edited November 2018 in Mercedes-Benz
Hello, I'm looking to lease a 2019 C43 Sedan and live in Colorado. What's the MF and RV for 36 months, 12k and 15k miles per year?
Thank you!
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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 243,534
    dfennig said:

    Hello, I'm looking to lease a 2019 C43 Sedan and live in Colorado. What's the MF and RV for 36 months, 12k and 15k miles per year?
    Thank you!

    36/15
    .00134 MF and 56% residual
    $1000 dealer incentive

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    CeeeeeeeeCeeeeeeee Member Posts: 4
    is the 2019 model even out yet?
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 245,216
    Ceeeeeeee said:

    is the 2019 model even out yet?

    If there are lease numbers available, I'd have to guess it's on the dealer lots.

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    dfennigdfennig Member Posts: 21
    I ordered one a few months ago and the dealer told me yesterday that the C43s are being released from port this week. I'm hoping my car will be here in the next week or so.
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    dfennigdfennig Member Posts: 21
    kyfdx said:

    dfennig said:

    Hello, I'm looking to lease a 2019 C43 Sedan and live in Colorado. What's the MF and RV for 36 months, 12k and 15k miles per year?
    Thank you!

    36/15
    .00134 MF and 56% residual
    $1000 dealer incentive
    Thank you, how about for 36/12 & 42/12?
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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 243,534
    dfennig said:

    kyfdx said:

    dfennig said:

    Hello, I'm looking to lease a 2019 C43 Sedan and live in Colorado. What's the MF and RV for 36 months, 12k and 15k miles per year?
    Thank you!

    36/15
    .00134 MF and 56% residual
    $1000 dealer incentive
    Thank you, how about for 36/12 & 42/12?
    58%/55% residual for 36/42 mo, 12K/yr

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    dfennigdfennig Member Posts: 21
    edited November 2018
    I've been going back and forth with my dealer and here's what I'm looking at, can you please give me some feedback? I know the MF is marked up a bit but I'm getting a good discount on a 2019 that I ordered.

    MSRP - $66,115
    Selling Price - $58,004
    Term - 36 months/12k miles
    RV - 58%
    MF - .00154
    Cap Cost Reduction - $2,571.27
    Adj Cap Cost - $57,126.73
    Base Monthly - $668.68
    Monthly use tax - $51.15
    Disposition Fee - $595
    Purchase option - $150
    Amount due at start- $3,500
    Monthly payment - $719.83

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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 243,534
    dfennig said:

    I've been going back and forth with my dealer and here's what I'm looking at, can you please give me some feedback? I know the MF is marked up a bit but I'm getting a good discount on a 2019 that I ordered.

    MSRP - $66,115
    Selling Price - $58,004
    Term - 36 months/12k miles
    RV - 58%
    MF - .00154
    Cap Cost Reduction - $2,571.27
    Adj Cap Cost - $57,126.73
    Base Monthly - $668.68
    Monthly use tax - $51.15
    Disposition Fee - $595
    Purchase option - $150
    Amount due at start- $3,500
    Monthly payment - $719.83

    Looks like your Gross CAP is about $1700 over the selling price.
    (57126+2571 = $59697) vs. $58,004

    Another $210 unaccounted for in your start up money
    (719+2571= 3290) vs. $3500

    That's $1910 total. Other than the acquisition fee, what are you paying for?

    It's a good discount. Probably enough to make up for the money factor bump, but you still have money unaccounted for.

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    dfennigdfennig Member Posts: 21
    Thanks for the reply. Hopefully this answers some questions -
    Total add cap cost - $1,694
    Monthly use tax @ 7.65% $51.15
    Total initial fees - $12.20
    Cap reduction tax 7.65% - $196.70
    Total sales tax - $2.038.10
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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 243,534
    dfennig said:

    Thanks for the reply. Hopefully this answers some questions -
    Total add cap cost - $1,694
    Monthly use tax @ 7.65% $51.15
    Total initial fees - $12.20
    Cap reduction tax 7.65% - $196.70
    Total sales tax - $2.038.10

    Total add cap cost - $1,694

    I guess a marked up acquisition fee and a dealer fee in this number?

    Given the big discount, overall it's a decent deal. Especially on a 2019 model

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    dfennigdfennig Member Posts: 21
    Yes, the acq fee was $1,095. I'm not sure if that was marked up but even it was I feel pretty good about the deal.
    Thanks for your help!
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    itcsps4itcsps4 Member Posts: 1
    edited November 2018
    Hello, looking to lease the C43 AMG Sedan and live in NY, What is the MF and RV for 12/36?

    Thank you!
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 245,216
    itcsps4 said:

    Hello, looking to lease the C43 AMG Sedan and live in NY, What is the MF and RV for 12/36?

    Thank you!

    .00134 and 58%
    $1000 incentive

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    Merlin3008Merlin3008 Member Posts: 12
    Hi there...does anyone have the Decemeber C43 lease numbers yet? If so, I'd like to know the residuals and MF for a C43 Sedan in 60126 for 10/36. Thanks!
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 245,216

    Hi there...does anyone have the Decemeber C43 lease numbers yet? If so, I'd like to know the residuals and MF for a C43 Sedan in 60126 for 10/36. Thanks!

    .00134 and 59%
    $1000 incentive

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    Merlin3008Merlin3008 Member Posts: 12
    Michaell said:

    Hi there...does anyone have the Decemeber C43 lease numbers yet? If so, I'd like to know the residuals and MF for a C43 Sedan in 60126 for 10/36. Thanks!

    .00134 and 59%
    $1000 incentive
    Thank you Michaell. This is a huge help. Can you tell me what the nature of the incentive is? Is this a rebate to the dealer that I should ask my sales advisor about?
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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 243,534

    Michaell said:

    Hi there...does anyone have the Decemeber C43 lease numbers yet? If so, I'd like to know the residuals and MF for a C43 Sedan in 60126 for 10/36. Thanks!

    .00134 and 59%
    $1000 incentive
    Thank you Michaell. This is a huge help. Can you tell me what the nature of the incentive is? Is this a rebate to the dealer that I should ask my sales advisor about?
    Winter sales event bonus

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    offthebooksoffthebooks Member Posts: 1
    Headed over to the dealership this weekend for a 19 c43 sedan any update on the rv and money factor? Zip 11211 36/10k 

    thank you 
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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 243,534

    Headed over to the dealership this weekend for a 19 c43 sedan any update on the rv and money factor? Zip 11211 36/10k 

    thank you 

    .00134 MF and 59% residual
    $1000 winter event bonus

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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 245,216

    Can you please provide MF/Residual for 36 month / 10/12/15k miles for C43 AMG Coupe in 44124?

    36/15
    .00113 and 51%
    $500 winter event bonus

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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 243,534

    Michaell said:

    Can you please provide MF/Residual for 36 month / 10/12/15k miles for C43 AMG Coupe in 44124?

    36/15
    .00113 and 51%
    $500 winter event bonus
    Can I assume +2 % RV for 12k and +3 % RV for 10k?
    Correct

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    dutchietxdutchietx Member Posts: 7
    H!

    Looking for numbers on a C43 Cabrio, in 77386 for 36 months/ 10K miles.

    M-B USA is involved as this concerns negotiations regarding a replacement for my 2017 C43 cabrio (at 36/10, same zip, now 16 months into lease) which is about to turn into a lemon case.
    Both parties trying to avoid the lemon case by negotiating a deal on a 2019.

    Please kindly help help with any good suggestions. 

    FYI; M-B USA offered a $2500 incentive already (dealership knows) for closing on a new 36m lease on a 2019 C43.
     Assuming the $1000 winter bonus can be added to that....

    Thanks for the input Sir! Happy New Year!
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    batmitestarbatmitestar Member Posts: 37
    edited December 2018
    Hello! I’m looking for MF and RV for AMG C43 sedan in 92620 for 36 months 7.5k mikes please. 
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    Hello! I’m looking for MF and RV for AMG C43 sedan in 92620 for 36 months 7.5k mikes please. 

    .00134 MF and 56% residual. $1000 winter event bonus

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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 243,534
    dutchietx said:

    H!

    Looking for numbers on a C43 Cabrio, in 77386 for 36 months/ 10K miles.

    M-B USA is involved as this concerns negotiations regarding a replacement for my 2017 C43 cabrio (at 36/10, same zip, now 16 months into lease) which is about to turn into a lemon case.
    Both parties trying to avoid the lemon case by negotiating a deal on a 2019.

    Please kindly help help with any good suggestions. 

    FYI; M-B USA offered a $2500 incentive already (dealership knows) for closing on a new 36m lease on a 2019 C43.
     Assuming the $1000 winter bonus can be added to that....

    Thanks for the input Sir! Happy New Year!

    .00082 MF and 54% residual
    $500 winter event bonus


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    mrniepomrniepo Member Posts: 34
    Hi, can you please share numbers for '19 c43 sedan @ 48/7.5k, 10k and 12k in 90069. Heard residual makes it a good option - do you agree? Thanks!
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 245,216
    mrniepo said:

    Hi, can you please share numbers for '19 c43 sedan @ 48/7.5k, 10k and 12k in 90069. Heard residual makes it a good option - do you agree? Thanks!

    48/12
    .00134 and 53%

    It might result in a lower payment than a 36 month term.

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    wanningerwanninger Member Posts: 3
    Hi hoping for C43 AMG Cabriolet MF & RV for 46062 -- 36/15
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 245,216
    wanninger said:

    Hi hoping for C43 AMG Cabriolet MF & RV for 46062 -- 36/15

    .00082 and 51%
    $500 incentive

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    YI89YI89 Member Posts: 9
    Can I please get MF/residual and incentives/loyalty bonus on 2019 C43 coupe, zip code 60016 for 36/12 and 42/12
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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 243,534
    YI89 said:

    Can I please get MF/residual and incentives/loyalty bonus on 2019 C43 coupe, zip code 60016 for 36/12 and 42/12

    .00113 MF
    53%/49% residual
    $500 winter event bonus

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    YI89YI89 Member Posts: 9
    kyfdx said:

    YI89 said:

    Can I please get MF/residual and incentives/loyalty bonus on 2019 C43 coupe, zip code 60016 for 36/12 and 42/12

    .00113 MF
    53%/49% residual
    $500 winter event bonus
    So I got the following offer for the 2019 C43 coupe
    The MF is .00113 MF
    and residual is 53% so that matches. Any thoughts ?




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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 245,216
    YI89 said:

    kyfdx said:

    YI89 said:

    Can I please get MF/residual and incentives/loyalty bonus on 2019 C43 coupe, zip code 60016 for 36/12 and 42/12

    .00113 MF
    53%/49% residual
    $500 winter event bonus
    So I got the following offer for the 2019 C43 coupe
    The MF is .00113 MF
    and residual is 53% so that matches. Any thoughts ?

    You don't have all the numbers needed for a lease - the stuff on the right is for a purchase.

    What the dealer needs to provide you is the adjusted cap cost, including taxes and fees.

    You live in Chicago, right? I'd avoid leasing there, as you are paying both state tax and city tax, totaling something like 17%. That's why your payment quote is so high.

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    YI89YI89 Member Posts: 9
    Michaell said:

    YI89 said:

    kyfdx said:

    YI89 said:

    Can I please get MF/residual and incentives/loyalty bonus on 2019 C43 coupe, zip code 60016 for 36/12 and 42/12

    .00113 MF
    53%/49% residual
    $500 winter event bonus
    So I got the following offer for the 2019 C43 coupe
    The MF is .00113 MF
    and residual is 53% so that matches. Any thoughts ?

    You don't have all the numbers needed for a lease - the stuff on the right is for a purchase.

    What the dealer needs to provide you is the adjusted cap cost, including taxes and fees.

    You live in Chicago, right? I'd avoid leasing there, as you are paying both state tax and city tax, totaling something like 17%. That's why your payment quote is so high.
    I don't live in the city, I live in Des Plaines 60016 (one of the suburbs) so the tax should be 7.25%
    I asked them for the adjusted cap cost and will post it shortly
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    YI89YI89 Member Posts: 9
    YI89 said:

    Michaell said:

    YI89 said:

    kyfdx said:

    YI89 said:

    Can I please get MF/residual and incentives/loyalty bonus on 2019 C43 coupe, zip code 60016 for 36/12 and 42/12

    .00113 MF
    53%/49% residual
    $500 winter event bonus
    So I got the following offer for the 2019 C43 coupe
    The MF is .00113 MF
    and residual is 53% so that matches. Any thoughts ?

    You don't have all the numbers needed for a lease - the stuff on the right is for a purchase.

    What the dealer needs to provide you is the adjusted cap cost, including taxes and fees.

    You live in Chicago, right? I'd avoid leasing there, as you are paying both state tax and city tax, totaling something like 17%. That's why your payment quote is so high.
    I don't live in the city, I live in Des Plaines 60016 (one of the suburbs) so the tax should be 7.25%
    I asked them for the adjusted cap cost and will post it shortly
    So I was told $1200 is the drive off including first month, taxes, registration, all fees and acquisition fee.
    The calculator is showing me $803 for 39 months including taxes which is about $100 less than what they are offering. Isn't the offer I posted showing cap cost at $63 523 ? That is including the discount taxes and fees ?
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 245,216
    YI89 said:

    YI89 said:

    Michaell said:

    YI89 said:

    kyfdx said:

    YI89 said:

    Can I please get MF/residual and incentives/loyalty bonus on 2019 C43 coupe, zip code 60016 for 36/12 and 42/12

    .00113 MF
    53%/49% residual
    $500 winter event bonus
    So I got the following offer for the 2019 C43 coupe
    The MF is .00113 MF
    and residual is 53% so that matches. Any thoughts ?

    You don't have all the numbers needed for a lease - the stuff on the right is for a purchase.

    What the dealer needs to provide you is the adjusted cap cost, including taxes and fees.

    You live in Chicago, right? I'd avoid leasing there, as you are paying both state tax and city tax, totaling something like 17%. That's why your payment quote is so high.
    I don't live in the city, I live in Des Plaines 60016 (one of the suburbs) so the tax should be 7.25%
    I asked them for the adjusted cap cost and will post it shortly
    So I was told $1200 is the drive off including first month, taxes, registration, all fees and acquisition fee.
    The calculator is showing me $803 for 39 months including taxes which is about $100 less than what they are offering. Isn't the offer I posted showing cap cost at $63 523 ? That is including the discount taxes and fees ?
    That's not the cap cost for a lease, that is the total for a purchase.

    You need to have the dealer give you the CAP cost, and how they arrived at that number from the negotiated selling price.

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    YI89YI89 Member Posts: 9
    Michaell said:

    YI89 said:

    YI89 said:

    Michaell said:

    YI89 said:

    kyfdx said:

    YI89 said:

    Can I please get MF/residual and incentives/loyalty bonus on 2019 C43 coupe, zip code 60016 for 36/12 and 42/12

    .00113 MF
    53%/49% residual
    $500 winter event bonus
    So I got the following offer for the 2019 C43 coupe
    The MF is .00113 MF
    and residual is 53% so that matches. Any thoughts ?

    You don't have all the numbers needed for a lease - the stuff on the right is for a purchase.

    What the dealer needs to provide you is the adjusted cap cost, including taxes and fees.

    You live in Chicago, right? I'd avoid leasing there, as you are paying both state tax and city tax, totaling something like 17%. That's why your payment quote is so high.
    I don't live in the city, I live in Des Plaines 60016 (one of the suburbs) so the tax should be 7.25%
    I asked them for the adjusted cap cost and will post it shortly
    So I was told $1200 is the drive off including first month, taxes, registration, all fees and acquisition fee.
    The calculator is showing me $803 for 39 months including taxes which is about $100 less than what they are offering. Isn't the offer I posted showing cap cost at $63 523 ? That is including the discount taxes and fees ?
    That's not the cap cost for a lease, that is the total for a purchase.

    You need to have the dealer give you the CAP cost, and how they arrived at that number from the negotiated selling price.
    So the cap cost is $58 682 which includes all fees and the price we negotiated for the car which is 58 286 (and includes acquisition fee). Drive off is 1st month payment plus the fees of $396.94
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    YI89YI89 Member Posts: 9
    So final numbers they are giving me:

    MSRP: $63 080
    Discounts: $4794
    Final negotiated price/cap cost: $58 286 (that includes the acquisition fee is what I was told)
    Fees (doc, licence, filling, title) $396.94
    MF: 0.00133 marked up from 0.00113 (what you guys gave me)
    Residual: 51% for 39 months
    0 down first month and the $396.94 = around $1200 drive off
    $902.36 per month


    the number I'm getting is $834 including tax if they use the 0.00113 MF. Are my calculations correct ? Wjere is the difference coming from ?


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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 245,216
    YI89 said:

    So final numbers they are giving me:

    MSRP: $63 080
    Discounts: $4794
    Final negotiated price/cap cost: $58 286 (that includes the acquisition fee is what I was told)
    Fees (doc, licence, filling, title) $396.94
    MF: 0.00133 marked up from 0.00113 (what you guys gave me)
    Residual: 51% for 39 months
    0 down first month and the $396.94 = around $1200 drive off
    $902.36 per month


    the number I'm getting is $834 including tax if they use the 0.00113 MF. Are my calculations correct ? Wjere is the difference coming from ?


    The only variables in a lease calculation are the MF and the CAP cost (MSRP, residual value and lease term are all fixed).

    Therefore, I would confirm the cap cost they are using for their $900/mo quote - that's over $2500 difference, over the lease term.

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    YI89YI89 Member Posts: 9
    Michaell said:

    YI89 said:

    So final numbers they are giving me:

    MSRP: $63 080
    Discounts: $4794
    Final negotiated price/cap cost: $58 286 (that includes the acquisition fee is what I was told)
    Fees (doc, licence, filling, title) $396.94
    MF: 0.00133 marked up from 0.00113 (what you guys gave me)
    Residual: 51% for 39 months
    0 down first month and the $396.94 = around $1200 drive off
    $902.36 per month


    the number I'm getting is $834 including tax if they use the 0.00113 MF. Are my calculations correct ? Wjere is the difference coming from ?


    The only variables in a lease calculation are the MF and the CAP cost (MSRP, residual value and lease term are all fixed).

    Therefore, I would confirm the cap cost they are using for their $900/mo quote - that's over $2500 difference, over the lease term.
    That explains it. Taxes and acquisition fee added to the cap cost.

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    dutchietxdutchietx Member Posts: 7
    Hello!
    Can you please share MB January lease numbers for TX77386 on a 2019 C43 Convertible @ 36m/10/yr? Thnx!

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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 243,534
    dutchietx said:

    Hello!
    Can you please share MB January lease numbers for TX77386 on a 2019 C43 Convertible @ 36m/10/yr? Thnx!

    .00092 MF and 55% residual
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    AmneyAmney Member Posts: 1
    Hey,

    Could you share the numbers for a C43 sedan 48m / 10k and 12k @ 94538 please?

    Thanks!
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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 243,534
    Amney said:

    Hey,

    Could you share the numbers for a C43 sedan 48m / 10k and 12k @ 94538 please?

    Thanks!

    .00145 MF
    54%/53% residual
    $1000 incentive

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    batmitestarbatmitestar Member Posts: 37
    Hello! Can I please have the RV and MF for 2019 C43 AMG sedan for 36 months / 7.5k miles in 92620? Any known incentives?

    Thanks!
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 245,216

    Hello! Can I please have the RV and MF for 2019 C43 AMG sedan for 36 months / 7.5k miles in 92620? Any known incentives?

    Thanks!

    .00145 and 60%
    $1000 incentive

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    batmitestarbatmitestar Member Posts: 37
    Thank you so much. Is there a recommended resource for finding incentives on one's own?
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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 243,534

    Thank you so much. Is there a recommended resource for finding incentives on one's own?

    Customer incentives are listed by Edmunds.

    You can research them, here:
    https://www.edmunds.com/tmv.html

    Dealer incentives are confidential. But, you can ask us.

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    anjony123anjony123 Member Posts: 11
    edited January 2019
    Starting to look for C43 AMG Coupe 4Matic in NY/NJ area. Can i please have MF and RV for 36/10 and 36/12.

    Thanks so much in advance, this site has been so helpful in past few years whenever my lease is up.
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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 243,534
    anjony123 said:

    Starting to look for C43 AMG Coupe 4Matic in NY/NJ area. Can i please have MF and RV for 36/10 and 36/12.

    Thanks so much in advance, this site has been so helpful in past few years whenever my lease is up.

    36/12
    .00125 MF and 53% residual
    $500 incentive

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