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2007 Acura TL Type S



  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Um, if you decide to do that, hope you can will let us know how it works out.
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519, I don't think I will try that experiment despite what british_rover said! :P
  • patpat Posts: 10,421

    No offense br, it just seems like a pretty scary thing to contemplate!
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    I'm with you on that, pat! It's just that what british_rover said seems to fly in the face of what I thought was undisputed fact. (Or maybe he was just being facetious and I misunderstood).
  • No its true a lit cigarette probably won't ignite a pool of gasoline. I wouldn't try it myself and advise against it but most likely the lit end of the cig will miss the fumes and be smothered by the liquid gas when it hits the surface.

    My college roommates Uncle, and yes I know that makes it sound like an urban legend, used to do this trick all the time. He was an old school race car driver that raced in the IMCA series and I remember him doing this at his shop quite a few times.

    They used it as a kind of hazing ritual for the new guys on the team. He said 9 times out of 10 the gasoline would not ignite. Still a 10 percent chance is a 10 percent chance so I wouldn't risk it. I guess the conditions really need to be ideal for the gasoline to ignite.
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    You know, I think probably the hosts have a responsibility to test this out to either debunk or confirm your theory once and for all, since all members are no doubt keenly interested in the results! And afterall, it's only a 10% chance! ;) :P
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 57,831
    I'd be glad to... but, I don't smoke.. :shades:

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  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Neither do I - anymore. :blush:

    Bodble2 is the one who put this out there. I'm waiting for him to tell us what happens. :P
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    Umm....huh...what are we talking about again? :blush: :P
  • scottm123scottm123 Posts: 1,501
    The mythbusters already did this, in one of their movie myth episodes.
    A lit cigarette will not ignite a puddle of gasoline.

    With that being said, I have no intetion of parking a TL or any other car with a gas leak on or near a lit cigarette.
    It just goes against everything that little "keep me safe" voice in my head is always telling me.
  • laurasdadalaurasdada Posts: 3,062
    Will a Pinto or Corvair ignite a puddle of gasoline??? :surprise:

    '13 Jaguar XF, '11 BMW 535xi, '02 Lexus RX300

  • scottm123scottm123 Posts: 1,501
    One of my first cars was a 1978 Green on green Ford Pinto.

    I spent more time watching my rearview mirror than I did watching the road ahead of me. :P
  • I am deciding between a AWD Infiniti G35 and Acura TL. I live in the northeast. I would be curious to know how the Acura TL front wheel drive performs in the snow. thanks
  • scottm123scottm123 Posts: 1,501
    Get snow tires LOL

    Being that you posted in the Type-S thread, I assume you're looking at the Type-S?
    You'll need winter rubber, and a skill to drive in the stuff.

    I had the same decision to make and ended up with the G35x.

    Do yourself a favor... drive both before deciding.

    I was pretty much sold on the Type-S until I drove the G and then never glanced at the TL again.
    There are many TL owners who can say the same about the G.

    Only you can decide that... but one thing is for sure.
    The G35x is leaps and bounds better in the white stuff than the TL...type-s or not.
  • Ah I figured they would have done this.

    Still a gas leak is a serious safety problem even if you don't have to worry about lit cigarettes.
  • laurasdadalaurasdada Posts: 3,062
    I compared the same two cars as Scott, but went the way of the TL because my needs/wants/desires were best filled by the TL just as the factors Scott sought were with the G35x.

    My (non-S) '05 TL was rather poor in the snow due to, I hope, the Bridgestone Turanze EL42 tires. I made it through the last two Boston winters without incident, just a lot more TCS and ABS (as well as caution) action than I've ever had in the snow before. Turanzas are gone, we'll see how the Toyos handle the white gold.

    I've driven FWD all my life to the mountains of New England. Never really had a problem with FWD/all season tires....until the TL.

    Can't speak to TLs with other tires, but given equal treads, AWD will give you better traction through the snow. The question is, do you want to (or care about) carrying the added weight and complexity of AWD all year long?

    '13 Jaguar XF, '11 BMW 535xi, '02 Lexus RX300

  • scottm123scottm123 Posts: 1,501
    If I cared that much about the extra few pounds, I'd use my $1,500 rowing machine more often! :P

    Even with the AWD, I'm seriously considering winter rubber on dedicated wheels anyway.
    I may put my Tirerack order in as early as this weekend.
  • laurasdadalaurasdada Posts: 3,062
    Like any decision, pros/cons. AWD, of course, offers each...

    So, you do use the rower occasionally? My Nordic Trac skier (which really is a great workout) has died of loneliness. Especially since I unplugged the treadmill it shares a room with... :sick:

    '13 Jaguar XF, '11 BMW 535xi, '02 Lexus RX300

  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    I have a 2004 TL 6-speed that came with the "HPT" summer tire package. Bridgestone Potenzas in place of the universally despised Tourenzas. Great dry pavement handling; absurdly bad snow performance.

    My former hometown gets 100-120 inches of snow a year. If I was to move back, I'd still be hard pressed to get an AWD sedan. I think you can do just fine with the right set of winter tires in FWD or even RWD.
  • scottm123scottm123 Posts: 1,501
    I have bad knees and the doc said one way to releive some off the pain is to work the leg muscles with some sort of zero tolerance exercise.
    He suggested an eliptical machine, but I feel retarded on those things.

    The rowing machine is awesome and it does one heck of a full body workout.
    I use it on a fairly regular basis, but the wife will never think it's used enough, no matter how long I spend on that thing.
    I should spend less time washing cars and more time rowing!
  • xrunner2xrunner2 Posts: 3,062
    I would be curious to know how the Acura TL front wheel drive performs in the snow. thanks

    We live in the snow-belt and have 3-4 months of exposure to snow/sleet/ice. Have had many fwd cars, and rwd, in years past and always mount 4 snow tires on the cars for the winter. Have an 04 Acura TL and have had dedicated alloy rims with Dunlop "50" series snow tires. Got these at TireRack. Live in a rural area with a long uphill drive. The TL has been very good in snow, ice, slush condition. As with any vehicle though, the limiting factor on getting through snow is ground clearance. Knowing that the TL is not a high-standing suv, one must be prudent in attempting to drive through freshly fallen snow that is close to ground clearance dimension in order to not hang up.

    I would never consider driving a vehicle in snow or ice with "all-season" tires. For sure, not with summer tires. Once got caught in an early snow with summer Pirellis on a Honda and it was nearly impossible to move or control.

    With Infiniti G35 awd, what are penalties in extra weight, poorer gas mileage, and handling (in the dry) vs a rwd?
  • scottm123scottm123 Posts: 1,501
    With Infiniti G35 awd, what are penalties in extra weight, poorer gas mileage, and handling (in the dry) vs a rwd?

    Yes, but not enough to keep me from owning one.
    It's heavier, a little more hungry and not quite a nimble on the dry roads, but it's still an insanely fun car to drive.

    I was also on the TL Type-S/G35x fence, and I'm glad than I fell in the direction that I did.

    Both are super cars and I wish I could own both, but I had to make a decision and with 2 little ones being brought to school each morning, I figured the G would suit me perfectly.
    Safe handling awd "Dad's car" when the kids are with me, and sport oriented speed and handling when alone.

    I also opted for snow tires, even with the AWD.
    Tirerack has Bridgestone Blizzak WS-50's on clearance for $99 (now down to $93)... and I had them mounted on dedicated 5 spoke aluminum wheels.
    Came to less than $800 and they look awesome (for snowtires)
    In the long run, it actually saves money, with the summer rubber being in the garage for 4 months a year.
  • xrunner2xrunner2 Posts: 3,062
    I also opted for snow tires, even with the AWD.
    Tirerack has Bridgestone Blizzak WS-50's on clearance for $99 (now down to $93)... and I had them mounted on dedicated 5 spoke aluminum wheels.

    We have had WS-50's on our Ody minivan since Nov 2000 in winter time. They are great in snow/ice, "but" they are kind of spongy in the dry. Can kind of toss the Ody around a little with regular Michelins in summer/fall in the dry, but have to be very careful with the WS-50's.
  • scottm123scottm123 Posts: 1,501
    The rephrase a bit... they are spongy in the warmer dryer weather.
    If it's cold (Below 35), they're not as bad.

    Most dedicated winter tires are this way, due to the softer compound.
    The Blizzaks are a little more noticable though, yes.

    Mine will not go on the car until the temp drops permanently, and will be off as soon as the temps start to hit above 40 during the day.

    Very good point though... thanks
  • Why is cruise control bad on a new car?
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    Using cruise control is bad on a new car, because you'd want to avoid going at a constant speed for an extended period of time on a green engine.
  • Hi All,

    I've been looking at some low milege TL type S's with 6MT. Looks like they are selling on eBay in the 31-32 range. Good prices or not? Anything to look out for? What's the story on the struts, is there a range of VIN #'s to worry about?
  • I have a manual 2007 TL type S and occasionally I have trouble engaging 3rd gear and reverse gear. When I try to shift to those gears, it feels like the stick is encountering a physical barrier and it pops back into neutral. Anyone have any ideas what may be wrong and does this warrant a servicing?
  • nowakj66nowakj66 Posts: 709
    I know the TL-S with ebony interior also has a black headliner and black carpets.

    The TL-S can also be had with a taupe interior and black carpets. Does the taupe interior TL-S also have black headliner like the ebony version?

    Any opinion on which interior looks better with a Kinetic blue or Carbon Bronze TL-S?
  • pv2pv2 Posts: 37
    I have a Carbon Bronze TL-S with the taupe interior. The headliner is taupe and the floor carpet is black and I'm very pleased with the car and color combinations. I was unsure about the exterior because it can look gray at times and brownish at other times depending on lighting. My prior car was a 2003 CL-S and all black so I just wanted a change. Also, the dark chrome wheels and trim look particularly good with the Carbon Bronze color. Good luck.
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