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Caravan/Voyager Warning Lights & Problem Codes
I have a 1990 Dodge Grand Caravan, 3.3l auttomatic tranny.
Recently i was just leaving the park in my van and the "check Guages" light came on, immediatly at startup, and the only guage that was low was the battery guage.. i know that my battery was quite old so i replaced it. the problem persists.. i do have an aftermarket stereo system (nothing fancy) and when i drove further i noticed that the "check engine" light came on. I then stopped, turned off the engine, waited a few min, and then started again. Once again the "check Guages" light came on immediatly, the "check engine" light was off at this time. i then drove home but this time i did not turn on my stereo and the "check engine" light did not come on. im not sure if the problem is with my alternator at this pint or not.. i would think that even if it was the alternator, the new battery would have been at least a temerary solution. However i cannot afford to do anything more with it right now. so i am hoping that some of you out there might know what i need to do or have some suggestions.
Thanks
Mike
A.K.A. Van_Mann
Recently i was just leaving the park in my van and the "check Guages" light came on, immediatly at startup, and the only guage that was low was the battery guage.. i know that my battery was quite old so i replaced it. the problem persists.. i do have an aftermarket stereo system (nothing fancy) and when i drove further i noticed that the "check engine" light came on. I then stopped, turned off the engine, waited a few min, and then started again. Once again the "check Guages" light came on immediatly, the "check engine" light was off at this time. i then drove home but this time i did not turn on my stereo and the "check engine" light did not come on. im not sure if the problem is with my alternator at this pint or not.. i would think that even if it was the alternator, the new battery would have been at least a temerary solution. However i cannot afford to do anything more with it right now. so i am hoping that some of you out there might know what i need to do or have some suggestions.
Thanks
Mike
A.K.A. Van_Mann
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They really have us over a barrel with those chips!
I can also sense burning gas ans the whole engine 9and the car) are shaking lile Little Richard.
What's wrong and what to do?
Thanks!
Gail
Under the assumption that the above is true (as opposed to an electrical problem, a problem which is highly unlikely to manifest itself this way), the reason that the light goes off when you are accelerating is that the transmission is typically in a lower gear meaning that the engine driven oil pump is running at a higher RPM which in turn means that it is pumping more oil.
Sludging is fairly easily diagnosed. You should simply be able to open the oil filler cap and look inside. On the 3.3 and 3.8 liter V6 engines you should see nice clean rocker arms, identical to the ones that can be viewed in my "Caravan Stuff" photo album on my Yahoo! photos page: http://photos.yahoo.com/shipo
If instead you see lots of crud built up around the rocker arms and rocker shaft or on the underlying cylinder head, your engine is sludged. Regarding the Mitsubishi 3.0 liter V6 (if you have that engine instead of either of the Chrysler V6s), I haven't looked through the oil filler hole of one of those since a friend of mine had an old Dodge Dynasty back in the 1980s so I'm not sure if you can similar engine details.
Another thing you can do to help us offer more qualified opinions as to what your problem might be, is if you would post some particulars about your van. I'm including a list of points to cover to help get you started:
- Engine model [3.0, 3.3, 3.8] liter V6, Note: for the 3.3s and the 3.8s, the displacement is casted into the top of the intake plenum on the 1998 engines)
- Typical type of traffic encountered when driving the van
- Typical time duration and mileage distance for each trip
- Total miles on engine
- Typical miles driven between oil changes
- Typical type of oil used
- How many oil changes went beyond the recommendation of 7,500 miles
- How many oil changes went beyond 10,000 miles
- Greatest number of miles driven on a single oil change
Best Regards,
Shipo
If you don't have an electronic dash, take it to Autozone, Murray's or something similar and they will read it for free.
Thanks
Were I in your shoes I'd try a heavier oil first before I did anything else. IIRC, our vans call for 5W-30 oil in the Owner's Manual, however, as I've now had a couple of cars that call for 0W-40 and as I don't like keeping different kinds of oil in my garage, I started using 0W-40 in both of our 3.8 liter DGCs a couple of years back. As the 0W-40 won't thin out as much as 5W-30 when at operating temperatures, I'd start there. If you are still seeing the light at idle with that oil I'd probably bump the oil up to either a 5W-50 (hard to find here in the U.S.A.) or a 15W-50 and try one of them out.
While I consider it fairly likely that the heavier oils will solve the light issue; if they don't then your only other option will be to drop the oil pan and have the (four) main and (six) rod bearings replaced. I haven't heard of anybody ever having to have that done to the DC V6 engines in our minivans so I don't have a real good feel for the potential cost. That having been said I guess I wouldn't be too surprised if you were quoted between $500 and $1,000 plus parts.
The counterpoint to all of this is that if you are running low oil pressure at idle only, your engine will most likely last many more years (assuming you keep good oil in it). I had an old (as in old when I bought it) 1966 Plymouth Valiant with the 225 "Slant-Six" engine that was constantly winking at me when idling. I bought the car with 103,000 miles on the clock and finally pulled and overhauled the engine when the odo showed 210,000 miles. It was still running perfectly well I just simply got tired of feeding it oil all of the time.
Best Regards,
Shipo
Dodge Caravan because I have a '92 Toyota Tercel and I never had that kind of problem. I am really not gonna buy another american made cars.
today i drove it about 4 miles from my home and the engine started to sound like it was running out of gas,soon the van would not go but engine ran rough.I put in some heet and some more gas into the tank. The van started right up,so i hop in and continue on my way,
Then the van again did the same thing. now is when i notice the engine light is on. I had van tow home,an hour later van starts up no problem,engine light stays on but now worried to move it.
where does the engine code show up?
do i have tranny or emission problem?
I have a 2000 Grand Caravan with a pesky ABS light that keeps coming on.. It is only after you drive the car a little and seems to reset itself after turning the car off... It has only 85,000 miles on it and to be honest I am not happy with it... I had it in to put in a new transmission (YES IT JUST DIED ON THE HIGHWAY 200 miles from home) In the dang thing and at that time they told me that it would need a new ABS pump.... At a cost of an other 1000 dollars... I have since been driving the Van with no reall braking issues other than no ABS... But would like to get it fixed as we will be holding on to it for a while longer...
First question is Being a motor head of sorts, Is it possible to do the work my self? If so are there any manuals out there to make it easier?
By looking at it it seems rather point blank easy bolt on... And then Bleed... Of couse it would need a change of break fluid...
Any body done this out there???
PS. I would just live with it, but the warning tone can be rather annoying :-)
van runs like new no problems engine smooth tranny smooth
any help on this would be great
also where is the ecm located hope i dont need a need 1
thanks
bobby v
The dinging and warning light are driving me NUTS!!! Please help.
I'm wondering if you simply have a bad temperature sensor/sender causing your intermittant light.
Best Regards,
Shipo
anyway, just hope you are right because here the french local mechanic cannot really understand why he has changed the hoses and even the radiator ( which cost us a lot ) but still there's the "beep & light warning every now and then" and we noticed the car does still loses water slowly... its not normal right? hmmm... its quite irritating the beeps
am quite apprehensive of going to the chrysler agent which might cost us double or triple, and still the problem will not be solve, because when we phoned them, it seems they have no idea of this problem too... ayayay!!!
thanks....
it? Thanks, Michele
My 2002 Dodge Grand Caravan has just started getting an intermittent security warning light will come on during initial ignition and while driving. When it comes on while driving nothing happens. However sometimes (3x this morning) when turning the car on the light will come on and the car won't start. Turn the key to off and then back on ususally solves the problem and the car will start.
Any ideas??
Thanks
Darren
Thanks in advance.
1) My backup lights do not work (yes, the bulbs are good), and I've been told it is "probably" the neutral safety switch (NSS).
2) In addition to that, my gear indicator lights are all lit when I'm in Park, and remain that way when shifting. Only when I select Reverse or Drive do the other lights finally go out.
3) On top of that, I cannot manually shift into 1st gear, though when in Drive the transmission shifts through each successive gear without problem. This is only a issue because I live in a very hilly area and prefer to do what little I can to preserve my brakes, particularly coming down a snowy hill in the dead of winter
4) Finally (though not really), my ABS light goes on and off intermittently, while the ABS system still seems to be operating.
5) And finally (at last), my Air Bag light comes on at randon times, and then goes off whenever it pleases.
Are any of these issues related? Does the (NSS) neutral safety switch come into play with any of them other than the back up lights?
I believe I've located the NSS, but if anyone has a picture or diagram of its location that would be real helpful
SURE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF MINIVANMAN4 HAS RESOLVED HIS PROBLEM OR IF ANYONE DOES KNOW IF THIS 'SOLUTION' IS WHAT IS REQUIRED.
Any ideas?
I was checking the internet site to see if I can find solution to my problem. I saw your posting. I have the same problem with my Dodge Carvan 2006.
Were you able to fix the issue?
Thanks
Vikram
oil light, my wife had both problems in our 98 Caravan and the best way to fix the dash board issue on an on going or temporary basis is the Fondz. Not sure of the spelling but the method works well. Just give it a wac with your fist on the dashboard panel. Works in our van every time. I believe though not yet proven the oil issue in our care is a bad sender unit. Out of time.