Volkswagen Eos Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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I headed to David Michael VW (Freehold, NJ) to finally see it in person.
I test drove a 2.0T auto w/ luxury package.
My thoughts:
Smaller than I expected.
Fit/finish was as expected, but lacked the "luxury" feel I had hoped for...
I had driven the Audi A3 with the same 2.0T engine and was expecting the same exciting engine feel - far from it! The car felt like it was towing an invisible anchor. Could be that it had 40 miles on it and wasn't broken in, but was a detractor for me.
We had the top down - more wind noise/buffeting than expected as well. I've owned a few convertibles in the past and was slightly surprised by the wind noise. Again, expected better.
All in all, I felt like it didn't live up to the hype.
Guess I'll need to schlep to the Volvo guys and see if the C70 is REALLY worth the extra $10K!
I'm not expecting alot of luxury out of a $29k car with a retractable hardtop. The hardtop is complicated and expensive ... and, by the way, heavy, which may be the anchor you are referring to.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
DO NOT PAY MORE THAN MSRP!!! RESEARCH, COMPARE, NEGOTIATE, AND HOLD YOUR GROUND!!!
i just received an email from VW yesterday about going for a test drive, and in the email, they state the EOS is not "officially available until Fall." Are dealers "unofficially" selling their test cars? Would seem silly to me if they are not expected to get any more in until Fall.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Where didyou find the invoice pricing? I looked on edmunds...and all over and found nothing. I really want this car and it's barely in my price range (I totaled my solara convert. - the new ones are too big). Thanks
Jan
Today, he quoted the following actual prices to me:
Base Manual 27,718
2.0T Manual 29,545
2.0T Auto 30,618
These include destination charges, but not taxes.
I hope his helps.
If WITH destination as he says, I guess that makes sense. So that would make invoice $26,718 vs the $28,620 MSRP. $1900 spread sounds a bit low, but believable for the base model, I suppose.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
You are not alone. My VW dealer in Delaware has one on the lot for $35K.
From carsdirect.com:
Base 25,721 (27,990 MSRP)
2.0T 27.548 (29,990 MSRP)
3.2L 33,816 (36,850 MSRP)
Is it right? I don't know, but the MSRP seems to agree with other reports. The last I saw there isn't any invoice pricing information on packages or options.
In the San Jose area I have found the following at different dealerships:
MSRP + almost $8,000 (that's right 8K$ over MSRP)
MSRP + about $5,000 (said they might deal)
MSRP and said they were willing to deal on the one car they had (not what I wanted) and MSRP for an order.
MSRP - $500 for the car I wanted to order (a very loaded Eos)
MSRP - $800 for the car I wanted to order
None of it has been pleasant, and some of it unpleasant. The big markups really make me pause. The dealer is telling me a profit of a few thousand dollars isn't enough for them. Which makes me wonder what kind of price to expect for parts and service (will they continue to try and extract ever dollar they can?). The last I saw, the cars were not moving off of their lots. All this in the midst of the Volkswagen CFO publicly concerned about the company profits. These markups certainly are not helping the factory sell more cars (nor is it helping their profit margin). In fact, the markups seem to be killing some interest and enthusiasm for the car. There may be plenty of enthusiasm left for the dealers to sell the cars the get at the inflated price. Compare this to what I see with the Toyota Camry Hybrid - the dealers are selling them at MSRP and cannot keep them on the lot (I am told this is true of Camrys in general but especially the hybrid). The Toyota dealers tell me they have waiting lists.
But maybe it is a good thing for VW if the reliability is still poor (no sense in selling a lot of cars that need repairs - giving them a very black eye). If I got the JD Powers reports right VW is near the bottom on both the initial quality report for 2006 and the report on 3 year old models (2003). I know you can manipulate numbers and there are parts that VW does well, but they don't seem to be making the whole car with the same higher quality of some other manufacturers.
I hope this helps someone. Good luck to all you buyers. I echo the sentiments of carrara . . . shop around and hold your ground.
***Therefore, Navigation actually costs a minimum of $7290! ***
And if, for example, you don't want to be part of the animal trade, and prefer the "leatherette" upholstery to leather, you can't have Nav at all. Get lost! (Literally..) :P
Other dealearships quoted me $100 per month more than this one! Woohoo.
1/Slide back in park? Try parking on an incline.
2/Give a false air pressure reading? Wasted time checking for flat NOT..... Computer "bug"
3/Try to install a nav system ? Nope not available
4/Remote system for hands free on steering just for show .not adaptable for US products.yet they charged extra for upgrade with radio.
5/Rain drops keep falling on my head. Yep assembly problem check it out. Dealer made it go away we hope.In all honesty German Technology is great but long way to go.My wife has a Honda with 100,000 miles.No shoppe time. I guess they will get it just right with a convertable.Sometimes it pays not to be first. Lesson learned. Don't be a Gini pig.
1/Slide back in park? Try parking on an incline.
2/Give a false air pressure reading? Wasted time checking for flat NOT..... Computer "bug"
3/Try to install a nav system ? Nope not available
4/Remote system for hands free on steering just for show .not adaptable for US products.yet they charged extra for upgrade with radio.
5/Rain drops keep falling on my head. Yep assembly problem check it out. Dealer made it go away we hope.In all honesty German Technology is great but long way to go.
My wife has a Honda with 100,000 miles.No shoppe time.
I guess Honda will get it just right with a convertable. Sometimes it pays not to be first.
Lesson learned.
Don't be a Gini Pig.
Answer don't hold your breath. Maybee next year. Good Luck.
1.We could have purchased closer, (Dallas- still 350 miles away), but those dealers were charging $2000.00 OVER MSRP! We purchased for under MSRP by going to another dealer.
2. Dealer met my husband at the airport, car was as expected, for the price expected.
3. No leaks, no problems following a 800 mile drive home, rain and shine.
4. The Eos itself is even BETTER than we remembered! Our two teenaged sons really love it as well (not that they'll get to drive it anytime soon).
5. First year model cars are just that. But sometimes subsequent year models have their problems as well. I'm sure we can ALL look back and think of a car or a dog or a
house that was lower maintainence than our "NEW" one. Nobody ever wants to feel taken advantage of by price, expectations of reliability or resale value. Who really knows when they are going to sink a lot of money into something that might not turn out as expected? I'm sorry for those who are not satisfied with their purchase. We are thrilled and the only question is who's day is it to take the EOS instead of the conversion van?! :confuse:
Luxury package with the Lemans wheels. And yes I've owned a black car in the past and know what the demands of the color choice are, but we couldn't resist. It's too sweet!
Being in a smaller Texas town, we didn't feel the need for the Nav system, although I'm sure they're very useful in the big cities. The steering wheel controls for the sound system is great! I love the satilite radio, NO MORE COMMERCIALS!!! You can't beat all the other convience features.
We really shopped this purchase. Compared all the 4 seat hard top retractable models and TEST DROVE them all. For the money, the ride, the outfitting, and for the SUNROOF- to- CONVERTIBLE feature, the EOS came in with it all! I was honestly ready to put my bucks on the Volvo C70 until we compared it with the EOS. We also test drove the lower end Pontiac G6, and even considered the Lexus SC.
Hey, congrats on your car and your good deal too! It does pay to shop around! The open air is just a little sweeter when you know you didn't spend more than you wanted to.
You are correct, the audio system is amazing! I love it! And the Satellite radio is amazing. I did my research too on this purchase. I was going for a convertible, I even considered Saturn Sky, Miata hardtop, SLK280, BMW 3-series convertible and even the Volvo C70. For some cars, I can;'t justify spending over $40K for a weekend car. Finally, I test drove this car and fell in love since then.
Yes, it pays to shop around. I am glad you got a car you wanted. Now drive safe and have fun!
Also, i;ve been thinking if i should just probably wait it out and see how the reviews come out. Definitely the car is gonna get cheaper in some months' time. Your thoughta on that?
Anyone have suggestions about any good dealers? And has anyone bought the car below MSRP?
Thanks a bunch.
Anywhere in houston, dallas, austin, san antonio would do.
thanks for the info..I did contact momentum..they also have a base model with leatherette..does anyone know what leatherette is? Does it change the look of the car a lot? For now I think the base model is good for me...the problem is that i'm in austin and cant drive out all the way just to check the car out..and here in austin all they're getting is luxury and sport packages..
Can someone outline to me the difference between base model and luxury/sport packages, in layman tersms? and how many of the stuff in the luxury/sport package is really necessary?
thanks
I would say depends on your budget and what's important to u. Mine is sport package and I pretty much have everything I needed and am very satisfy with it.
Good luck.
I didn't mean to step on your toes about the website suggestion,
I am talkin right now to Momentum VW which was usggested by one of the posters here.
They're givin me the base model at 31K, which is 4-5K below the one equipped with the leather or sport package..
Someone asked me why i want this car..Cos its a hardtop convertible.
Thats the one reason..I testdrove this one but i drove the one with lux package so it definitely must be different from the base model
Looked at the website u sent..thanks for that..
I think I have to take a look at the base model and see what it does/doesnt have. I dont wanna go there and be asked " Oh you wanted a steering wheel? thats not there in the base model !!!"
Just kidding, but after driving 300 miles i dont wanna be surprised.
Thanks for the suggestion about asking them the spec page..I shall do that..and will also checkout the dealer u bought from.
Either way if I have to drive from Austin to Houston, I'd better check out all posssibilities.
Hehe
not here...not the ones i called. the least i heard till now is a guy in dallas how said he'll give to me 600 off msrp.
but thats the lux package which i am trying to avoid..i think the base model is good for me
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A red with sports package ($34100), and blue with lux package($34700)..Am confused about which one to go with.
Does the lux package automatically come with the DVD nav system?
And can some real automobile geeks tell me what is the difference between lux and sports packages>?
Does anyone have a red Eos? Can you post pics please?
thanks much
Prat