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2009 Mazda6



  • Thanks barry626,

    Mine is a 6-cyl. BTW, I stumbled upon - they had the exact pricing but had free shipping for > $100 (mazdagear's shipping for what I wanted was around $30). I've ordered my all weather mats, splash guards and touchup paint from mazdaparts. Hope I get them soon in proper shape.
  • I have 3K miles on mine and I haven't felt the car to be unrefined though the engine is definitely slightly on the rougher side under hard acceleration. I don't get the hum in neutral but there is a noise that comes in idle (this comes on and goes off) and I had already contacted the dealer and even Mazda about this. They know what this problem is and is not isolated to my car alone (I checked out another car and it too had the same issue) and they claim that they are working on to fix this. The road noise on some surfaces is also higher as I had mentioned in one of my earlier posts. But all these don't bother me much - I would think any car I buy would have some annoyances like this.
    Today I had gone for a long drive and loved the way the car drives. It feels planted, stable and quite fun to drive for a large family sedan. Even under heavy rains today I was impressed at how easy it was to drive it and to point the car to where you wanted it to go.
  • xyz123xyz123 Posts: 18
    Venture and Drosa - Maybe it has a bit to do with sensitivity, as I am may be overly aware of every sensation. Even during the test drive, a relative lack of refinement was noticed, but comfortably tolerable. Compared to the Toyota 3.5, and to a lesser extent the Honda 3.5, the Mazda 3.7 doesn't feel as smooth, refined, or quiet. Historically speaking, that's to be expected. After putting 800+ miles on the car, I'm just more familiar with the harshness.

    Yes, I was referring to the 1500-2000 rpm range. The rumble/perceived lack of refinement isn't just noticed only within that range. But, since that's often the rpm the engine is turning at during uneventful cruising it's easier to notice. It's much more understandable during acceleration, but I imagined cruising at low rpms wouldn't exhibit this characteristic. Engine harshness and noise is present during acceleration, and is actually a bit more pronounced in a similar rpm range. Maybe 1500 to 2500 rpm.

    It's a little confusing, since it feels slightly rough/rumbly with an accompanying roar. Almost as if it might be due to a deliberate attempt to have a sporty tone. It reminds me somewhat of the Nissan 3.5, but thankfully less grainy, less buzzy, and without the contrived engine note.

    My last Mazda with the supercharged Miller cycle V6 engine was silky smooth during acceleration, when the damned thing wasn't malfunctioning. The 3.5 in the Toyota Avalon is exceptionally refined. The inline 6 of the BMW may be an unfair comparison, since engines with this configuration are inherently balanced and of almost incomparable smoothness. It's possible I'm spoiled by recent models with unusually refined engines. But, it's still a curiosity.

    By the way, further driving at around 70 hwy/30 city has yielded 19 mpg.
  • xyz123xyz123 Posts: 18
    Hi Sedmund. Would you mind expanding on the noise that you mention experiencing at idle? And was there any further explanation when you contacted your dealer and Mazda? I admit, it might be nitpicking for me to be concerned about this. But, if it's actually issue that is recognized and can be resolved, I'd like to take advantage of it.

    You're assessment sounds great. For a practical, front drive family sedan it's quite stable and enjoyable to drive.
  • ventureventure Central PAPosts: 890
    I understand what you are saying. I've owned many cars that were unrefined. The DOHC Monte Carlo I had comes to mind, as well as some of the old Corvettes I had, but they were still a blast to drive.

    I guess I just don't worry about things like that. I just drive them for all they're worth.

    I'm still getting used to the nose heaviness of a front wheel drive car and am learning what it takes to get around a corner as fast as it can go. It may take a while.

    One thing I didn't expect - this s GT doesn't ask to be driven hard. You have to want to do it - if you know what I mean. It's a little too civilized for me.

    2018 Legacy 3.6R, 2015 Crosstrek, 2015 Forester

  • Can anyone help me out. My lovely bride seems to think that a price of $4000 below invoice is a realistic expectation on an iGT. If I am not divorced by then, I plan on buying at the end of this month. Does anyone mind sharing where their price was in relation to invoice so that I can call the dealer or my lawyer depending on your answers?
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,906
    There is an easier solution than divorce: let your lovely bride negotiate with the dealer, if she thinks $4000 below invoice is realistic. :)
  • ventureventure Central PAPosts: 890
    Do you have a trade?

    Assuming you do - the dealer I bought mine from asked for $100 over invoice and gave me Kelley Blue Book "Good" condition for my trade. They could also have asked for $4,000 under invoice and given me $4,000 less for my trade.

    If you don't have a trade - If you can get anywhere near invoice, grab it.

    2018 Legacy 3.6R, 2015 Crosstrek, 2015 Forester

  • xyz123xyz123 Posts: 18
    Haha, the way you describe it is hilarious! Just like Backy said, if she thinks 4000 below invoice is reasonable, let her do the negotiating. You'll either have very understanding salespeople who will realize her perspective on car pricing is unrealistic, and they'll try to be educate and accomodate her. Or, you'll never be able to step foot in there again. One great thing you can count on is that you don't have to argue with you wife about what's reasonable, in terms of pricing. The dealer staff will be burdened with that task. Another possible outcome is that her genuine belief that such a low price is possible may help in negotiations and get the salesperson to give you the lowest number he or she is comfortable with. Good luck.
  • xyz123xyz123 Posts: 18
    Compared to Corvettes, any mid-sized sedan will feel civilized. You're right, it doesn't beg to be pushed. But when you do, it feels more capable than most of its competition.

    Experiences with other cars definitely affects our perspective. But, this is a brand new, modern car with improved refinement as one of its main objectives.

    Another peculiar thing that came up is this dull little clunk that occurs a moment after breaking and coming to a complete stop. Like something has momentum and is shifting and coming to a rest after the rest of the car.

    I finally saw another Mazda6 on the road! It was fun having such a "unique" car. Now that bubble has burst. The good thing is that it looks great moving on the road. It's great that Mazda has come up with a decent, practical four door with cool style that normal people can afford.
  • Thank you for the responses. I am glad you could tell my sarcasm from my frustration.

    I do have a trade, but it is a 2000 Grand Am with 131,000 miles. Not exactly a great bargaining chip. To be honest, the only reason I was looking right now was because of the economy, I thought I could get a good deal. Not to mention that I loved the car when I test drove it. But I am realistic at least as to what a good deal is. Right now, I am so frustrated with my "bargaining coach" that I may say the hell with it and just drive my current car until the wheels fall off.
  • Philitus, I paid 24900 + tax, etc for IGT w/ moonroof/bose and all weather floor mats. Ebony Black. I didn't get in on any of the Maxda cash that others have been talking about in here, you may look into that.

    I do have a question regarding a roof rack. Anyone have info or recommendations on a roof rack for my 09 Mazda for Mtn bike, snowboard, etc? Also on the smart key settings it states that you can turn off the audible beeping noise that the car makes when you dont fasten your seatbelt. I have had the car in twice and to have this turned off. It still beeps, anyone had any luck with this? Thanks in advance.
  • xyz123, the noise I'm talking about is like a faint knocking noise just barely audible. Not many people may even notice it - I could hear it every-time but my wife didn't notice for a long time even after I told her about it!
    A Mazda technician took a look at it and, if my memory servers me right, told me that it was caused by the purge solenoid. I will confirm it when I take the car in for the first service. This noise comes on when the car is idling, stays on for 30 seconds or so and turns off. When this noise comes on I can in fact feel something on my foot on the brake as if something is tapping the bottom of my feet! Again keep in mind all this is very faint - I'm just trying to describe it as best I can.
    The Mazda technician was quite friendly and didn't pretend, even for a moment, that this noise didn't exist. He acknowledged the problem and said they are aware of it and working on a fix. Let's see ...
  • Hi Sedmund -- is this only an issue on an 6s 6cyl or does it also affect the 4cyl 6i?
  • ventureventure Central PAPosts: 890
    Also on the smart key settings it states that you can turn off the audible beeping noise that the car makes when you dont fasten your seatbelt.

    I could be wrong, but I don't think that has anything to do with the key personalization settings. It's listed, separately, in the seat belt information part of the manual.

    Maybe the dealer is confused. :confuse:

    2018 Legacy 3.6R, 2015 Crosstrek, 2015 Forester

  • I have been looking at new cars for a while now and mazda had not been on my list of contenders. Mostly due to a lack of mazda dealers conveniently located. After reading/studying up on them I see that it might be a good option. The question I have is: does the bluetooth allow for 2 devices to be connected at the same time?
    I don't want to have to buy a crap phone with a built in MP3 player when I can get a good phone and a good MP3 player for next to nothing.
  • All the 3 Mazda6's I saw that had this problem happened to be 6-cyl. So I don't know if this issue is present in the 4-cyl or not.
  • Has anyone had problems with fluctuating MPG readings from the info button. At one time it read i was getting 21 AVG MPG. Now its reading 18 AVG MPG. I've had my 09 Mazda S for about two months so I know the engine has been broken in some what. :confuse:
  • xyz123xyz123 Posts: 18
    Maybe you're just consuming more gas per mile traveled. That would be the simplest explanation. Is that for one trip or for the duration of your ownership? If you're talking about from the time you brought it home until now, that's a big change. You can reset any particular display category if you hold down the trip button while it's being shown on the little screen. Then maybe you can monitor each tankful, and compare it to the calculation you make at the pump. Neither one will be completely accurate, but at least you'll get a good idea if the computer is working properly.

    21 miles per gallon sounds really good for an average. I averaged low 19s for the first tankful, mid 18s for the second, and it seems like it's going to be mid 18s for the current tank. That's for around 1/3 city, 2/3 hwy.
  • jkobty2jkobty2 Posts: 210
    Yes you can pair as many devices as you like. And you can configure everything using voice commands.
  • Its for the duration my ownership. I have 2500 miles (give or take a little) on it now. I do drive 1/3 city and 2/3 hwy. It just seemed so strange how at one time my the info button read 21 AVG MPG then 18 AVG MPG. I reset the info button every time I fill up. Are you suppose to rest the info button every time you fill up or every once and awhile? IDK but I'm just gonna calculate the AVG MPG after I fill up again :confuse:
  • xyz123xyz123 Posts: 18
    You can reset it whenever you'd like... or never. The chances are that your driving habits or routes are just requiring more fuel at different times. If you notice that it's really too erratic, get it checked out. Otherwise, that mileage isn't too unusual.
  • drosadrosa Posts: 24
    Yesterday I drove at least 15 miles after the INFO screen said 0 to empty. I pulled up to Valero on route 130. Only had $16 in cash. $16 took it past the 1/2 tank mark. woo hoo. Having a hard time keeping my S below 75mph. The speedometer is small and its hard to note 65 vs 75. It still feels a bit rough when accelerating but the Noises are either going away or I am getting used to them. Really haven't seen another 6 on the road on my daily commutes
  • I sure would appreciate if someone with factory fog lamps would be able to check their passenger side lamp for more play than the drivers side. It seems that it could rattle some due to the extra play it has with respect to the movement of it.

    Thank you in advance... :)
  • ventureventure Central PAPosts: 890
    I checked mine. The passenger side is a little looser than the drivers side. Weird, huh?

    Doesn't seem like a show-stopper.

    2018 Legacy 3.6R, 2015 Crosstrek, 2015 Forester

  • Does anyone have the factory remote starter installed on the 2009 Mazda 6 with the advanced keyless start system? I would like to know how it works in conjuction with the keyless start system.
  • xyz123xyz123 Posts: 18
    The fog lamps seem to have the same security/tension on both sides for me. Is the passenger side fog lamp on your car so loose that you really think it'd rattle? Have you heard it rattle yet?

    This is sort of trivial and admittedly immature, but I just had an impromtu in motion acceleration contest with an older Audi S4. I guess the engine note of the Mazda is quite noticeable outside of the car even with moderate acceleration. This apparently encouraged the other driver to egg me on. Surprisingly, the Mazda won.

    Now for the somewhat applicable part; mysteriously, some of the engine noise and harshness diminished while driving around immdediately afterwards. It seems that the aggressive engine sound was noticeable to the S4 driver, and friends have mentioned an audible "roar" from the outside. So, maybe part of the perceived lack of refinement is due to a deliberately engineered rumble and exhaust note? And possibly, with more use, it'll further subside? I hope this is the case.
  • xyz123xyz123 Posts: 18
    Gas mileage continues to be middling. I knew fuel economy wasn't going to be a strength with this car, but there was still a sliver of hope it would be better. With 40% city driving and 60% hwy, my last tank calculated to be in the mid 18's again. The situation in the above post was really an anomoly, so that shouldn't factor in. However, I generally tend to keep a brisk pace, which surely contributes to the less than stellar numbers. Plus, when I say city driving I mean downtown Chicago. That's lots of lights and traffic. Does anyone know what the EPA's "city" testing actually involves? How are other people doing with fuel efficiency?
  • jkobty2jkobty2 Posts: 210
    I was looking inside my engine compartment yesterday and I noticed a suspicious looking yellow cap with kind off a half moon opening in the middle sitting on its side on top of the transmission. I did not want to attempt to move it or remove it just in case it is actually meant to be there, but it does not seem connected to anything and it is sitting on its side so it does not seem to be actually covering anything.
    Could it be something that dropped into the engine bay during manufacturing by mistake, or is it supposed to actually be installed somewhere and was missed? Any ideas?
    Also my niece who also bought the same car as I (Mazda 6 GT), says her radio channels seem to change by themselves. I thought it might be the RDM button, but that seems to be related only to the CD player. Did she press something by mistake to cause that behavior or should she get this issue checked out.
    Thanks for any insight
  • I have noticed the "rattle" or I should say potential to rattle under the following condition:

    When I press on the passenger side lamp, gently pushing it backwards (I press on the furthest right handside middle) the lamp goes back further than the other side and when I let go, I hear it hitting something upon return (as if it was hitting something plastic) but what is strange is I don't see it hitting anything visible from the front outside, like the frame around it. If I press on other parts of the lamp, the mounting seems firm as would be expected.

    What part of the lamp did you push on?

    It again is a small thing, but I am thinking that driving on roads a rattle or vibration would most likely occur maybe causing the lamp to prematurely go bad.

    Thanks all for your input.
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