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Honda Odyssey Transmission Problems



  • I will say this...I had a 2001 with 68000 miles and the tranny failed. There are no good fixes or parts out there. I traded it in for something else becasue the van was not worth the cost to fix. Sell the van while it still runs and get something that is more reliable and safe to operate. Honda will not assist you. THey knew of the issue when the made the van and if you call or send them letters looking for some assistance they will tell you thanks but no thanks.
  • eng2eng2 Posts: 10
    You are sadly right about Honda. I had written Honda that our 2002 Odyssey that was serviced regularly at the dealers had a failed transmission at around 100,700 miles. I realize that this is past the warranty period, however Honda at extended the warranty to 7 years or 107,000 miles, knowing that they had a problem. The Honda representative called me yesterday to express his regret that they will not do anything to assist in the $4,600 repair bill. I would have felt even having me pay for the labor of $1,100 and Honda paying for the rebuilt transmission would be more than fair. Honda spends millions on advertising, and they have just lost a good client as this will be the last Honda our family buys. We are trading the Odyssey for a Toyota Sienna, as even though we have a 3 yr 36,000 mile warranty I just don't trust this rebuilt transmission.
  • All my confidence build-up over the years with Honda vehicle was shattered when the transmission failed at 90K miles. (Our family owns over 10 Honda) I bought it new, never abused the car, nor stressed the transmission. Did all due services at the dealer, per Honda Manual, yet the transmission failed. Basically, Honda know this problem and tried to put a fix, which I found out after talking to the dealer. Apparently, the fix did not solve the problem.
    The local Honda dealer gave me estimate of $5,7841 to fix it. I call American Honda and they said they will give 10% discount and nothing more, even though Honda knew about the problem and put a Band-Aid to cover up-to the warranty period. I started calling local Transmission shop and will get it done for $2,350 with 1 year warranty and 3 year warranty with additional $200. Will see how it turns out after the repair is done. Those crooks at Honda want to make money at your misery with over blown prices.

    I am not buying Honda in the future. In fact I would file a complain about bad business practices, if I know how to do.
  • Honda can read your comments and so can other consumers at Post there and see what you get.

    Some consumers have taken Honda to small claims on this issue and won as well.
  • Keep on Honda about fixing it. Leave it with them for a few days, and insist on a loaner, for them to drive it, have the techs drive it an insist that they investigate and repeat the issue. Also tell them that you are not picking the car up until the fix it. that will force them to contact Honda Tech Line and provide updates to you. Eventually they will tell you to come get your car even if its not fixed. Our car was in the shop for 3 weeks within a 6 week period. Long story short, we kept excellent records, submitted them to a lawyer and we have filed with Honda under the Lemon Law. Research it, lemon laws are there to protect the consumer of situations such as these where the investigations for defects in new cars can go on for months and years and menwhile you are driving and paying for the car with a defect!

    Let me know if you want ore info.
  • I just bought a 2002 Odyssey with about 240,000 on it. Regularly maintained?? The plugs were in rough shape, oil was filthy but full. Anyways, I did all the usual things I do when I buy a new old car to begin fixing, fresh oil with cleaning agents and Lucas oil additive, new iridium plugs, fixed the hole in the exhaust system, etc. We had a bad rain the other night and right after that when the van is in Drive and I am stopped there is a shutter in the whole van. Not just the steering wheel, but the whole van. When I shift to neutral it goes away. The motor sounds and runs great. Occasionally when the tranny is cold it will miss shifting down to first and not engage if the throttle is depressed to quickly. You just have to let up and wait, then you would feel and hear it engage and you can drive as normal. The rough tranny in idle just started while the cold shift issue was present when I bought it. It gets smooth as you accelerate and stays smooth at speed. I added a bottle of lucas tranny fix last night, I will see what that does. Anyone who fixes their own car have experience with a similar issue? I can get a whole new/used (condition unknown) tranny from a scrap yard for $85 with a $25 core. Not sure if it would be worth the risk given the transmission issues described here. Anyone know if the bolt pattern for the newer tranny will fit my block? Any help would be greatly welcomed.
  • jpfjpf Posts: 496
    The problem is if you're looking for great reliability in a minivan you won't find it. Even Toyota has issues with the Sienna (esp. the AWD model). The only thing that you can do is minimize the risk. For example, avoid the power sliding doors for all makes and models because nobody has got it right. Check the forums. All of them have issues, either with the doors closing on hands or opening up while driving or some other issue. Honda may be slightly worse than Toyota, reliability wise, but who else makes minivans besides Toyota, Honda and Chrysler? Good luck with your vehicle.
  • longo2longo2 Posts: 347
    " Honda may be slightly worse than Toyota, reliability wise, but who else makes minivans besides Toyota, Honda and Chrysler? "


    I think if this guy is on his 5th transmission he has every right go Postal on Honda.

    I think a lot of the problem is Consumers Reports has looked at Honda with Rose Colored glasses for years and over looked the obvious transmission issues. They still have the 2001 02 and 03 automatic transmissions rated as "Excellant" Buyers expectations for their "recomended" vehicles are that they earned that rating and didn't get it because of politics or worse.

    If CR blasted Honda for the 2000 to 2003 (and more) years, people wouldn't be so shocked when their Ody dies in the ditch.

    I change 3 1/2 liters of a/t fluid my Ody 2003 a/t fluid every second oil change and run an extra magnifine filter on the return line for the a/t, but who knows when my luck will run out, when it does I won't be shocked.

    As for the alternatives, yes they all have their issues too, I think a Honda Ridgeline will be the vehicle to replace my Ody.

    I hear some intenet chatter that 2012 might be the last year for the Ridgeline.
  • FYI, the ridgeline, pilot, and odyssey all share the same engine & transmission setup. I would avoid all V6 Honda products until they figure this thing out.

    We had a '10 pilot with engine pinging problems also. Traded it for a 4cyl CRV they are supposed up be reliable.

    My neighbor has '05 Toyota sienna with 110k never had one problem with it. Personally I would buy Toyota for reliability. My issue with Toyota in the past was their ho-hum driving experience. We like our cars to have sporty handing with great ergonomics & interior finishes. Honda was our first choice in the past.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 25,380
    the ridgeline and I think pilot have a different tranny. And the ody switched over to that model trans in IIRC 2007? Still seemed to have TC issues, but the fatal issues of the earlier ones don't seem to be there anymore.

    2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4i Limited Tech (mine), 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's) and 2015 Jetta Sport (daughter's)

  • i am a transmission builder in south o.c. i work on hundreds of honda transmissions, this is nothing new as far as the problems you were having. I agree partly with honda being one of the premier manufacturers but saying this, there are a couple of designs that deserve no praise.The biggest flaw being that the filter is not serviceable. the trans filter is internal and the trans has to be removed and completely disassembled to replace it. by the time the filter is plugged, there are mechanical failures withing the transmission.The second issue i have, is that second gear oiler that is the major upgrade in your transmission. It is basically a band-aid repair, not a redesign of the transmission.Even with this oiler assembly, they still fail. although it may prolong the inevitable, it is just a after thought. The transmissions behind the v-6 have more failures basically due to the extra torque provided by the engine. the trans is really undersized for the job. You can expect between 80k and 125k before the trans will have issues again. ive seen them reach 150k miles but 125k miles is the average. It also depends on how the vehicle is driven.
  • How should transmission be driven? I had to replace my 2002 at 184,000 kms in 2007. Last year I added an after-market cooler and switch over to synthetic trans oil. I currently have 289,000 kms. That's 105m kms or 64m miles.
    In your shop do your also come across Siennas and Chryslers with replacement issues?
  • eng2eng2 Posts: 10
    Are you saying till 2007 the filter position has not been changed. You indicated that they fail between 80k to 125k miles. Has that improved with the 2007 and above models? I have a 2005 Odyssey with only 21k miles on it, and hope it will service me for years to come. My daughter's 2002 had to have a transmission replace by 100,700 miles, and Honda wouldn't do anything about it. Yes it is out of warranty, but if it is a known defect, I feel Honda should at least meet us part way.
  • matmamatma Posts: 2
    Four months ago I bought a 2002 Honda Odyssey, it had 112,000 miles on it and had been regularly maintained by a dealership other than the one I had purchased it from. However, the dealership that sold the car off the showroom floor and where it was regularly maintained was just down the street. So, after my purchase, I took it where it had been serviced. I told the service mgr. that I wanted a bumper to bumper inspection. (This was for my daughter who has a handicap 3yr. old and I wanted the van to be road worthy.) The timing belt needed changing, the brakes were worn, the oil changed....Three months later, she's on the freeway in SC and the transmission starts to thud....I told her to take it to the Honda dealership and find out what the problem could be. The transmission needs to be replaced (she's only put 5K on it since she's had it) for a tune of $5800. I feel like two Honda dealerships have mislead me. I'm afraid if I replace the transmission it might only last for a few months...any suggestions?
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 25,380
    hindsight is easy, but always get the PPI (pre-purchase inspection) before you buy.

    In this case, if it was driving fine when you bought it and for 5K after, I don't see it as the fault of either dealer. basically, there was nothing to find. And at that mileage, on a unit known for failures, you were playing with fire from the start.

    I would, however, plead your case to Honda corporate to see if they will help out, and try to get one of both of the dealers on your side (especially the one that did all the maintenance). Hopefully you can at least get some relief from them.

    Other than that, it should be fine for a while, and will have a warranty.

    2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4i Limited Tech (mine), 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's) and 2015 Jetta Sport (daughter's)

  • eng2eng2 Posts: 10
    I understand how you feel, as I gave my 2002 Odyssey with only 14k miles on it to my daughter who has 4 children. It has been serviced by the book at the Honda dealer, and at 100,700 miles the transmission failed. The cost $4,300 to put in a rebuilt with a 36 month, 36,000 mile warranty. We replaced it, but in all the blogs I was afraid that there is a problem with this transmission and so we traded it in last month for a Sienna, as Honda refused to help out with the repair, even though they know that this is a problem.
  • I am afraid that the replacement transmission is no better then the one that came with the car originally. It sounds to me like the dealer misled you. My suggestion would be to trade the car in now before things gets worse. I would also suspect that the motor mounts are broke as well and they did not tell you.
  • 2001--only 65000 miles. Driving down a city street early October when I notice the TCS light and D3 indicator light flshing and the check engine light on. Could no longer accelerate, van would move only very very slowly. Had it towed to local Honda dealer.

    They diagnosed it as a tranny failure, replacement would cost $5300. Did the dance with service rep, etc. Got American Honda involved, had to ask, offered replacement for $4320. Told them no thanks, will never buy a Honda again (unless they own this) and will discourage anyone else from doing so. They were actually going to charge me $80 for giving me the diagnosis that I now owned an $8200 paper weight! When I objected, they relented. About the only good thing I can say about the service reps effort and keeping me as a happy Honda consumer.

    Took it to an approved Jasper Transmission installer and had them put in the recommended Jasper replacement (why in the world would I want the same product from Honda again?) Total bill just under $4K. We obviously don't drive our van much, but so far it is running perfectly. Jasper comes with 3yr/100,000mi warranty. I just discovered tonight that there is now a class-action lawsuit filed. Unfortunately it seems to cover only 2005/06 modely years. You can bet I will be contacting them to see if the suit can be expanded to additional years. There is also an Occupy Honda facebook page!

    It is simply reprehensible that Honda is acting this way and they ought to be held accountable.
  • matmamatma Posts: 2
    From what I've read on the blogs here is that i should check out the Jasper transmissions.....shoot at this point who cares if it comes from Honda? In fact, I don't think I'd want another Honda transmission in the van. The dealership that I purchased it from won't even return my calls.....the dealership where it was bought new and serviced, did offer me the labor free....but the van lives in South Carolina and I'm up north, so it doesn't help me any...:)
  • Lots of talk about Jasper transmissions BUT what transmission dealer/shop sells & installs it in Canada?
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 8,862
    Does anybody even know if Jasper rebuilds the Odyssey transmission with better parts or if they just know they are less expensive?

    Does anyone have a long enough history with the Jasper to say it really is a better unit?
  • For a year and a half our van has had problems going from 2nd into 3rd...we recently have to shift it into second and then after we get past 30 mph we switch it back into 3rd and then drive. This has carried us through...for how long I don't know. We have 187,000 miles on this van. I just got an estimate from a local Honda dealer $4250.00. We wanted to sell it next year, but nobody will buy it like it is now.

    Has anyone else had this problem? I had the transmission flushed about a year and a half ago. I just had the trans fluid checked and it was fine.

    Thanks for any sounds like Odyssey's are an issue, but I am wondering if it is van's in general. I have had friend's who have had American made van's and they have gone out. We use Ford van's at the Transit Company where I work...3 went out this year. They sure are cheaper than the Honda replacement trans.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 25,380
    at some point, parts (even major ones like a tranny) wear out. 187K is starting to get up there, so hard to argue you did not get your money's worth out of it.

    and a new trans is quite possibly going to cost more than you would get for the van after that.

    2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4i Limited Tech (mine), 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's) and 2015 Jetta Sport (daughter's)

  • I know the few horror stories I read last night are disturbing...The Accords can go forever...I guess I thought the vans would also!

    So...You don't think that it is worth putting a new transmission in? We decided that we will keep the van longer if we put the new trans. in.

    Thanks for your feedback...
  • My question to you at 187k - what else will need replacing besides the transmission? Wheel bearings, cv joints, does it burn any oil? etc.

    If you decide on replacing the transmission don't go back to Honda for the work. They will replace the transmission with the original defective design.

    Look for a transmission shop that offers a good warranty. Jasper transmissions have a 3 year 100,000 mile warranty! I think Honda will give you 6 months maybe 1 year?

    Also, look at the Odyssey vibration forum there's some links discussing why Honda transmissions fail.
  • eng2eng2 Posts: 10
    I ran into the same situation last month except our 2002 Odyssey had only 100700 miles on it. To replace the transmission ran $4600 with tax, and if we didn't replace it the car would not be worth much, so we replaced it with the idea that we had a 36 month warranty if we kept it. However reading all about the motor mounds etc. etc. I got a good trade in on a Sienna, however at the mileage you have I'm not sure I would invest $4,000 more.
  • For the last few months my D light has been flashing intermitinly. Yesterday it did it even when the van was in park so I called my dealer. They wanted it there immiedately. I waited for service keeping the van running so a code would not get re-set and lose the flashing D. Unless the D is flashing they cannot tell what senor it is. Apparently it could be one of three senors on the side of the transmission. They found it was the Third Pressure Switch and it got replaced for a cost of $227.90 tax (13%HST) included.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 25,380
    worth it? Depends on the overall condition of the van.

    At minimum, before I decided, I would fine a good indy mechanic (preferably one that really knows Hondas and has experience with the Odyssey) and have it gone over with a fine tooth comb. Engine compression, suspension, motor mounts, everything. Get a quote for bringing it fully "up to snuff".

    then, add that to the cost of the trans and decide if you want to invest that much with the intent of keeping it a couple more years.

    If it really needs a couple K more in repairs beyond the trans, might be better off dumping it as is.

    2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4i Limited Tech (mine), 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's) and 2015 Jetta Sport (daughter's)

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