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Acura TL vs Infiniti G35

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  • Good post. I also test drove the G35 Sport and TL and TL-S. The ride on the TL-S really didn't feel harsh to me. It felt the same as the regular TL actually except for cornering. The TL-S had very little body roll in the turns.

    I agree the TL's interior felt more refined, but the G35 was more fun to drive.
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    and....despite it being well into its current life cycle, the TL (especially in TL-S guise), is still the looker of the two.
  • castelinocastelino Posts: 26
    Well design is a personal taste - but I'd never pick honda styling over Nissan styling - the Acura is way to conservative. I love the curves on the Infiniti.
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    True. Design is a personal taste. Nissan's styling efforts have been hit and miss. More the latter than the former. You say conservative, I say timeless.
  • laurasdadalaurasdada Posts: 3,254
    Indeed, beauty is in the eye. To this eye, the TL is a beauty: handsome, aggressive with some nice detailing. I like the '07 restyle of the G, but to me it turned a 7 into a 7.5. While the TL is a 9...! :D

    And I judge style on the individual auto, as opposed to a whole line, e.g. while I give the TL a 9, I only give the TSX a 7. The TSX is handsome enough, but totally generic. It just blends.

    To each. :shades:

    '13 Jaguar XF, possibly my favorite of all the cars I've owned. But, my '09 Jag XK was a beauty, as was my '05 Acura TL, '88 Acura Integra, '84 Mitsubishi Mirage Turbo & '78 VW Scirocco (my first!). And, of course, the '92 Nissan Sentra SE-R and '95 Saab 900s I bought for the ex... Ok, I like a lot of the cars in my life.

  • taxesquiretaxesquire Posts: 681
    no one answered whether the TL's Nav system turns off when you start to drive, like the G35

    It doesn't turn off - it's fully-functional while driving
  • gooddeal2gooddeal2 Posts: 750
    Well design is a personal taste - but I'd never pick honda styling over Nissan styling - the Acura is way to conservative. I love the curves on the Infiniti.

    I'm w/ you on this...never like honda/acura design. Infiniti > Lexus > Acura
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    Other than the TL, I'm too crazy about current Acura styling. But you evidently have not seen the current Infiniti and Lexus, because the IS and LS sedans blow away any and all Infiniti sedans.
  • darrenwdarrenw Posts: 23
    There is no way Lexus styling is better than acura, interior maybe.

    The only car that can beat the TL in term of styling is G35 coupe only, not even the sedan. Did some opinion sample before and after buying the car. Having said that, styling has never been an issue to me. TL does not offer a RWD handling and G35's unique roaring sound.

    I read that all Acura line will receive a SH-AWD with at least 300 hp (even the civic sized TSX gets a 300hp engine). To me that is more troubling than just styling issue. These car manufacturers just don't stop unlike the old days, it makes me wanna lease instead of buying. :sick:
  • castelinocastelino Posts: 26
    Well as I said before, styling is a very personal thing - I forgot to mention that I drove the IS 350 during my shopping also. I do agree that the styling is far superior to the TL, but I wouldn't say it's any better than the G35, different but not better. That said, the anemic rear seat room makes it a non-starter for me.

    The IS was the first Lexus I had driven and after all the talk about how great the fit and finish is on Lexus cars I will say that I was disappointed. The cabin dome light in the front looked cheap and the trim in the car didn't look all that great. Drives really nicely though.
  • johninnjjohninnj Posts: 243
    45K + miles on 04 TL, and 2K on new G. Unless they revised the voice recognition, the G's is MUCH more accurate. Maybe each works better with different voices though. G offers a learning mode where you actually read back what's on the screen to taylor it to your voice. As for the NAV, my $250 mio got me everywhere and anywhere I wanted to go without any problems, and could be shuffled between our 4 vehicles in 10 seconds. If you have more than 1 car, NAV in only one seems sorta wasteful. One thing that is CLEARLY in the TL's advantage is highway mileage. Just got back from same trip done many times in TL (Auto). 80ish mph average on 120 mile trip used to net high 20's, low 30's in the TL. I just got 22.2. That is nuts. On the drive home, with radar-cruise at 80 and an even 70mph average (Reset on the highway), I got 25.2. That same scenario on the acrua would have netted at least 32mpg. If you do frequent highway trips, the G is prob not your car. Although at high speeds it is quieter and more planted than the (Non-S at least) TL.
  • johninnjjohninnj Posts: 243
    Payment diff on NAV model is accurate, but I am in NJ, and we pay through the nose for insurance. I would never wait for "Next years version" all the time, But with the competition out there, TL can be expected to come out swinging VERY hard next year.
  • jkm900jkm900 Posts: 18
    I drove bot the 2007 TL and Gx before finally deciding on the TL. I think the interior of the G is cheap looking and the interior seems cramped. I had the seat all the way back and my knees were still in the dash an I'm only 6'2. It was a fun car to drive though. I didn't like the weird CVT transmission at all. It was laggy and seemed to shift in the wrong places. The TL is smoother and frankly better looking in my opinion...guess that's why I bought one :)
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    It's not a CVT in the G though.
  • johninnjjohninnj Posts: 243
    I was thinking he drove an altima to tell you the truth. I'm 6'2 220lbs and fit more than fine...and the G shifts like a serious perfomance sedan.
  • castelinocastelino Posts: 26
    Interesting comments on the TL NAV, I found the TL to be better with natural speech than the G. The G seemed to require you to say the commands in the right way. With the TL I was able to say "find the nearest ATM" and it worked. With the G if I said that it got all confused.

    You're absolutely right on the mileage - but you don't get the performance/driving experience in the TL that you get in the G.
  • johninnjjohninnj Posts: 243
    I'm sorry....I was referring to TL's voice rec on the bluetooth phone which I used extensively. I was assuming (Perhaps incorrectly) that the nav system ran off the same voice rec core software. Did you try the "Learning mode" in the G? I found that pretty smart to offer that as a way to tailor the software to your particular pronounciations/inflections. Good stuff. TL I would sometimes wind up dialing the # on the phone, killing the call, then saying "Redial". When the fan was on high it seemed to mix up numbers terribly. G can be dialed with touch-screen, steering wheel buttons, voice command, or even using the phone itself...it will automatically x-fer without the audible "Transfer" command as in the TL. Phone book is also clearly visible like tracks on a CD. Head and shoulders above the acura. I LOVE IT.
  • goodegggoodegg Posts: 905
    I think the interior of the G is cheap looking and the interior seems cramped.

    I found the 06 G35's interior too narrow. I sat in the TL and swam in the extra room. It was close to being a coin flip for me between the two, but I bought a TL, savored the extra room, and saved a few bucks.

    I checked out the 07 G - I really liked that car - but it too was too narrow. Moving the window controls to the door didn't increase the width of the cockpit.
  • scottm123scottm123 Posts: 1,501
    "TL I would sometimes wind up dialing the # on the phone, killing the call, then saying 'Redial'. When the fan was on high it seemed to mix up numbers terribly."

    I have an 06 MDX and I find that the voice recognition is about 60-70% accurate, but if that climate control fan is on, it almost never works.

    In the G, if the fan is on and I hit the voice button, it lowers the fan until I'm done speaking.

    Someone was thinking! :blush:
  • johninnjjohninnj Posts: 243
    Def a nice touch on the fan quieter. The bluetooh phone integration in the MDX is pretty bad. Friend of mine has one (05 I think). It's much better in the TL, as it was designed for it...it was just sorta "Tossed" into the mdx.
  • scottm123scottm123 Posts: 1,501
    I'm not a huge fan of the voice recognition in the MDX.
    It seems to work flawlessly for me when I'm alone, but never works when showing it off to others.
    Also, if I have other people in the car, it's useless if they are also speaking.

    But... the Bluetooth Phone in the 06 is fantastic.
    Everyone I have spoken to say it's the clearest call they have heard... as clear as if speaking from home.
    Maybe they did some work to improve it in 06, but I like it alot.

    I like it in the G as well, but not as much.
    People say I sound clear, but that it has a speaker phone like sound to it.
    I don't get that in the MDX.
  • johninnjjohninnj Posts: 243
    Oh yeh..the acura def sounds clearer. I meant more the on-screen caller ID, and the screen to confirm the # that you dialed (Verbally) before you call it. My friends MDX doesn't seem to have that. I've heard the same with the G...sounds less clear than TL when I talk to the same people in the same sitation. Isn't it fun telling people in the car "Ssssssshhhhhhhh" I'm dialing !!
  • rmcneicermcneice Posts: 20
    Well I just compared the TL to the ES350 to the G35x and wound up buying the G. I was really sold on the Lexus but after a second test drive the wife convinced me that I needed something sportier. The Lexus is noce, but too much like driving the sofa. Her exact words were, "you're still too young for this car" (I'm 48).

    As for the Acura, I agree that styling is in the eyes of the beholder, but the TL was way behind the other 2 in that regard (inside and out). It looks like a Camery to me. I never did get to drive the thing. Every time I went to the dealer they didn't have a test car to drive (3 trips). It made me seriously wonder where all of their cars were. So I passed based on a frustration factor as well as a style preference.

    The G is way sportier than either of the other 2 though, both in looks and performance (TL test drive not withstanding).

    Enjoy,
    Bob
  • johninnjjohninnj Posts: 243
    Good choice ! !
    IS350 is really the comparison car and is friggin fast!!! Very small inside though and priced way high. Although the TL-S seems to perform better in some situations, you would never know it from behind the wheel. Reg TL can't compete in sportiness...not even close.
  • castelinocastelino Posts: 26
    Well that's great that you drove the ES 350, it's interesting you make the age comment, because when I drove the Acura RL I had the similar thought. What really made the case difficult is that the RL can be had for within $2K or less of the fully loaded G35. So it was a tough choice - the RL has such refinement on the interior but those tiny buttons drove me crazy on the center stack. Also the ride was grandma like compared to the G35 (sorry if I offend any racing grandma's out there).

    My buddy has an ES350 and he described the ride as more sedan'ish or squishy as compared to the TL/IS/G class of cars. Plus it's front wheel drive - and after driving RWD for 10 years I just can't go back.

    Oh well, glad you got the G. I did too and it's a sweet ride.
  • johninnjjohninnj Posts: 243
    Being a long time Honda/Acura guy, I wanted VERY VERY VERY much to like the RL, considering they are giving them away. I drove one back-to-back with an M45. RL felt like a high-tech towncar, sure was quiet at about 80mph though. At any rate...M is kinda overpriced and new G has better stereo and is a tad faster. M rear end seems oddly large and out of place. G it was.
  • scottm123scottm123 Posts: 1,501
    What really made the case difficult is that the RL can be had for within $2K or less of the fully loaded G35.

    My fully loaded G35x came in just under $40K
    A loaded RL at my local Acura dealer is $55K

    I know a lot of Acura dealers are throwing RLs out to buyers for less than Invoice, but my dealer wouldn't hear of it.
  • castelinocastelino Posts: 26
    I had an RL offer with everything but the CMBS for 41K before TTL - so you can see where it was close to a fully loaded G35S. Within a few K.
  • kennyg8kennyg8 Posts: 225
    The diff btn 55k and 41k is 14k!!! With that kind of savings, you can fly out to the dealer that gives you the best price and drive your new RL home. :) The loaded RL is definitely a better buy than the G35x, which is only $1k cheaper.
  • billyperks1billyperks1 Posts: 151
    The same car was offered to me for 43K, I want to pull the plug on either the RL or the GS350 but the I am waiting to see the next generation of acuras.
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