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Full-size pickup sales - F-150 best selling truck, but for how much longer?



  • KCRamKCRam Mt. Arlington NJPosts: 3,516
    Feel free to add comments to my blog post regarding the F-Series sales slump: The Big Rigs - How the mighty have fallen

    kcram - Pickups Host
  • KCRamKCRam Mt. Arlington NJPosts: 3,516
    dismal, as expected...

    Jun 08 / Jun 07 / +/- / CY 2008 / CY 2007 / +/-
    F-Series 38,789 / 65,156 / -40.5 / 274,713 / 355,438 / -22.7
    Silverado 34,290 / 44,955 / -23.7 / 231,320 / 310,896 / -25.6
    Ram 16,149 / 31,114 / -48.0 / 128,944 / 185,257 / -30.0
    Sierra 12,409 / 15,187 / -18.3 / 83,174 / 99,293 / -16.2
    Tundra 10,238 / 21,727/ -47.0 / 76,516 / 82,840 / -7.0
    Titan 1,260 / 4,405 / -71.4 / 17,185 / 33,073 / -48.0
    Mark LT 405 / 756 / -46.4 / 2,226 / 4,332 / -48.6

    Toyota is finding out just how fickle Americans can be.

    kcram - Pickups Host
  • obyoneobyone Posts: 8,054
    Nissan Titan down 48%. That makes Nissan look like they discontinued the Titan.

    Looks like the new Ram isn't doing so good either. It's a no brainer for Ford to delay the intro of the 2009 F150.
  • KCRamKCRam Mt. Arlington NJPosts: 3,516
    The new Ram isn't out yet... production doesn't begin until September 8. This is all the current design for Dodge.

    kcram - Pickups Host
  • KCRamKCRam Mt. Arlington NJPosts: 3,516

    Jul 08 Jul 07 +/- CY 2008 CY 2007 +/-
    F-Series 44,829 56,488 -20.6 319,542 411,926 -22.4
    Silverado 32,989 46,997 -29.8 264,309 357,893 -26.1
    Ram 21,328 29,312 -27.0 150,272 214,569 -30.0
    Sierra 11,596 15,892 -27.0 94,770 115,185 -17.7
    Tundra 13,413 23,150 -42.1 89,929 105,990 -15.2
    Titan 3,972 5,708 -30.4 21,157 38,781 -45.4
    Mark LT 488 758 -35.6 2,714 5,090 -46.7

    kcram - Pickups Host
  • KCRamKCRam Mt. Arlington NJPosts: 3,516
    Aug 08 Aug 07 +/- CY 2008 CY 2007 +/-
    F-Series 40,429 69,220 -41.6 359,971 481,146 -25.2
    Silverado 55,765 67,486 -17.4 320,074 425,379 -24.8
    Ram 24,974 32,309 -23.0 175,246 246,878 -29.0
    Sierra 20,297 23,574 -13.9 115,067 138,759 -17.1
    Tundra 17,401 18,919 -8.0 107,330 124,909 -14.5
    Titan 5,871 6,985 -15.9 27,028 45,766 -40.9
    Mark LT 562 768 -26.8 3,276 5,858 -44.1

    Ford can't be happy that Chevy kicked their butt last month.

    kcram - Pickups Host
  • iontrapiontrap Posts: 139
    Where can I find the monthly sales numbers for the Toyota Sequoia?
  • beat! I need a basic truck, traded a basic Hyundai Santa fe and got this! I hope Dodge stays in Business as this will last me the rest of my life!
  • obyoneobyone Posts: 8,054
    I hope Dodge stays in Business as this will last me the rest of my life!

    Are you 84 years old? At those prices Dodge will need government intervention or they will be out of business in a couple of years.
  • KCRamKCRam Mt. Arlington NJPosts: 3,516
    Actually, that's about right. A base 1500 regular cab shortbed 4x2 has an MSRP of $22,1 and an invoice of $19,8. There's currently up to 7-large in rebates available and another $1400 in factory-to-dealer, so $11,5 sounds about right from invoice. It's all to clear the old 1500s off the lots before the redesigned 1500 hits the street in a few weeks.

    kcram - Pickups Host
  • KCRamKCRam Mt. Arlington NJPosts: 3,516
    It's OT here in Pickups, but... :)

    Sequoia sales are up, but it's kind of a false increase as the model was changing to the new Tundra chassis from the old one a year ago.

    Aug 08 - 3,195
    Aug 07 - 1,717 +86.1%
    2008 - 22,562
    2007 - 16,299 +37.8%

    kcram - Pickups Host
  • obyoneobyone Posts: 8,054
    It's no wonder that Toyota closed a plant for retooling and shifted production on the Sequoia and Tundra. With sales of 3K per month the dealers must be loaded on those things.
  • The msrp was 23,050. so 11,525, what I paid was zactly half! And with the warranty and a GREAT local dealer 3 miles down the road, I could NOT pass!S far I love it and will be trying to drive for milage if it is possible. A long time tech friend says for now DO NOT LUG the engine. Forget 6th until 55 at least! Great forum, i enjoy helping and having help available!
  • KCRamKCRam Mt. Arlington NJPosts: 3,516
    This was just a classic beating

    Sep 08 Sep 07 +/- CY 2008 CY 2007 +/-
    F-Series 32,727 56,065 -41.6 392,698 537,211 -26.9
    Silverado 50,428 52,480 -3.9 370,502 477,859 -22.5
    Ram 20,812 30,100 -31.0 196,058 276,978 -29.0
    Sierra 18,744 18,445 1.6 133,811 157,204 -14.9
    Tundra 7,696 19,571 -59.0 115,026 144,480 -20.4
    Titan 2,872 5,193 -44.7 29,900 50,959 -41.3
    Mark LT 383 795 -51.8 3,659 6,653 -45.0

    Chevy and GMC were helped big time by GM Employee pricing.

    If Ford doesn't get their act together, the F-Series could fall to
    second place for the first time in about 30 years.

    Toyota... right truck, 3 years too late.

    kcram - Pickups Host
  • osellrosellr Posts: 6
    learn to spell and before you form an opinion, go find a tundra and put it "to work" on your farm and i guarantee you that you will be surprised. just because your a conservative farmer doesn't mean you HAVE to drive an american truck. the step that tundras had made in the past 4 years when it comes to size, power, and towing, has been bigger than fords step up in the past 10 years. be flexible and just because all the rednecks are so into american automobiles, doesn't mean you'll look weird driving a nice tundy around the farm.
  • Folks who work that tundra in them fields is bustin them ones quick! We need full size trucks for haulin them tobacco trains now... facts is facts! Them forien pumpkins be popin if put too that haul now! Never heard a single tell on them tundra ones workin any field... just folks workin that hi-way with them shiney ones. They lack haul for farmin and such. What say? Any folks here workin that tundra in them fields? Good luck on this one now!
  • I can't afford a new truck. Prices are way to high for any of them. I buy well used trucks and drive them up and down the road till they don't go anymore. I will continue to buy the 99 1/2 to 03 F350 SD 7.3 L till I can't find one anymore. As for nissan and Toyota I wouldn't buy one of those if I had the money and used a 1/2 ton. Sorry but I support my fellow American workers and American companies. I know Ford's sales aren't up like everyone elses but they also don't base thier company off of small little cheap cars. Thier company is built around trucks real trucks. The ones you see in farmers fields and on the road pulling trailers. If we as a country keep buying imports where will our kids work?
  • osellrosellr Posts: 6
    I would have kept buying American trucks but i switched to the tundra because it's more reliable. Tundras can do anything a F-150, a silverado, or a ram can do, except with more horsepower and torque. Tundras can tow 10,000 pounds like its nothing, and you can drop 1,600 pounds of anything in the bed and the truck will still have the get up and go like it does if it were dry.
  • morganvmorganv Posts: 49
    maybe its just coincidence but everytime i take my camry in for service i see a tundra with the transmission apart. maybe i wouldnt notice it but a friend has a 3 year old tundra and the teansmssion been apart 2 times.
  • osellrosellr Posts: 6
    No it's not a coincidence. Go to any dealership that sells trucks and there will be trucks in the service center.
    Ford, chevy, dodge, Toyota. No truck has a 0% defect rate.
  • b2900b2900 Posts: 20
    Without question there is going to be mechanical failures with any Truck. I have had GM and Ford pick pkups as well as Dodge cars in the past. The difference is, should it be it a major transmission problems( which every one of my Dodges had) or a simple burnt out light bulb, I was properly serviced by Toyota the issue was fixed. Unlike my Ford and GM where I always felt gouged or over charged often the problem not being fixed properly. I am happy to say I have had three new Toyota trucks including the new Tundra with no problems what so ever and a resale at trade that only Ford,Dodge, and Chev could not even come close to. Sure the big three cost a little less to purchase however the trusting consumer takes a drastic loss at trade in.

  • Tundras suck. The box frames on a tundra snaps easily because they aren't built for heavy towing. they get horrible miles to the gallon and are only driven by idiots who think that it's a more reliable truck. Well it's not because once you kill the frame trying to tow what it's not or ever should try and tow and makes your truck look like some one treated it like silly puddy bending it out of shape. This is what it comes down to if you want a great street truck with good speed then you need to buy a dodge ram hemi. If you want a truck to tow small loads then you need to get a gmc. If you want a heavy duty hauling truck that gets the job done then get a ford. If you want a piece of crap not meant to be driven and only tow your trash to the end of the driveway then get a tundra and other foreign trucks. They don't farm in other country's like we do so don't complain when you buy a foreign truck meant for just driving plants in and nothing else.
  • your all idiots Ford has the best towing out of any truck. It tows at the max about 10,700 and the max for a dodge ram is about a 9,100. It says on both of they're sights if you really want a good towing truck do your research. I hate you idiots who know nothing of trucks and just put your two cents in because your never broke down. The reason behind that is you never did any really strenuous work on that truck dummies. Until you really know what your talking about get off this forum and don't look back.
  • b2900b2900 Posts: 20
    My goodness did someone poop in your pancakes today? Oseller are you a Ford sales rep? I know what I have experienced and frankly I will never go back the LITTLE THREE. If you drive a Ford then expect poor resale THAT'S A FACT and being gouged for service. OH by the way your hard earned tax dollars bailed the other two companies out and Ford is next... why is that? Because they build quality vehicles? Toyota is leading the way to quality cars with resale that is next to literally non. Sincerely if they improve their quality,their reliability, and greatly improve their resale I may come back but not till then...
  • KCRamKCRam Mt. Arlington NJPosts: 3,516
    The name-calling and cursing can stop right now, or you may be surprised to find out what happens as a result. Got it?

    kcram - Pickups/Wagons Host
  • 455ho455ho Posts: 2
    Have you read up on the new Ram 2500/3500 models? Read the review on here. What about Toyota quality? Gas pedals; Tundra frames; and now, sudden stalling on Corolla and Matrix models (so far). I laugh at all of you who claim the 'holier than thou' attitude when driving foreign. See you in the unemployment line, import lovers!
  • No one at all? And why is that now? That forien one just won't last long workin that farm now, facts is facts! If your lookin to work farms and such, get a big3 one now. Good luck on this one now!
  • Well we all have different situations, can't all work on daddy's farm. Me, after Hurricane Katrina decided what I really needed was a full size 4door truck to evacuate in if I needed, so last year I went truck shopping w/gas at 4$ a gallon and loads of inventory on every car dealers lot. Last year7/04/08 I bought a 08 Tundra v8 dblcb & have never looked back. If I was to sell it today, almost a year & a half later I could make a small profit. Silky smoth like a Lexus the truck is truely unbelievable. I'll let ya know how it holds together over the next 10 to 15 years,
  • The media is quick to throw Toyota under the bus. There have been much worse issues with GM and Ford that never came to light. Are you going to tell me that thousands of spark plug ejections didnt warrant a recal. That is just one example.

    Oh and I have 60k on my tundra now. Much of which was towing a race car and trailer that weighed over 10,000 lbs. My F150 ( brand new ) was terrifying to tow anything over 7k. After it broke down 3 times before 25k, I got rid of it. I loved that truck initially,,,, I planned to keep it forever. I had only owned Fords and this was the first NEW one I had ever owned. Every one of my Mustangs had over 200k on it

    And for the ignorant person that talked about driving a forign car,,,, My Toyota is made in America. My F150 was made in Mexico. And yes i fully expect to see you in the unemployment line. I mean , I wont be in it,,, I ll be the guy waving at you as I drive by . Just look for the bad [non-permissible content removed] Tundra.

    Read up on the reviews,,,,,, that always makes me laugh. I read reviews, but I DRIVE anything before i make an opinion on it. Well except for the F250 turbo diesel. My co worker has one. I kicked that things [non-permissible content removed] in 2 drag races. That new vehicle has been in the shop twice already for leaks and crap falling off of it.

    Here is something to focus on, and this is a fact. Ford gives bonuses for HIGH PRODUCTION NUMBERS. Toyota gives bonuses on on lack of rejection
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