How do you find out what the dealer's price is if they won't tell you?

Am I being too direct in asking for both the dealer's and the MSRP price quotes to buy a new car? What's the proper way to go about getting what the dealer paid vs. what the sticker price says? I find Edmunds calculation chart confusing - because the only number I'm able to plug in is the MSRP. So far, dealers have only sent me the MSRPs and when I ask for the dealer price thy say they're selling at MSRP and ignore my question. Any advice?
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At the moment, there is not a lot of inventory, so many dealers are not discounting their new cars at all.
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