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Toyota 4Runner



  • Stability control won't save you from rollovers except in a really indirect way. Stability control only helps you maintain directional control (helps with understeer/oversteer).


    I guess if the loss of directional control results in hitting a curb or something that would cause you to potentially roll-over that stability control could indirectly be said to have prevented a roll-over but that's not a common situation.


    I doubt that anyone makes a retrofit stability control system since you would have to tie into the car's computer to control the ABS and engine power (since that's how most stability control systems work).


  • depdep Posts: 79
    Well, Carmax called back just like they said they would.


    They were quoted 6-8+ months to order an 05 4runner which is the same as saying it can not be ordered. He 'thought' they could find one that I wanted in another part of the country but I am not sure they exist.


    Has anyone seen or purchased the following:


    05 V6 Runner 4WD Limited

    Side air bag option

    Radio/CD Changer option


    X-REAS (sp?) -the rear shock upgraded option

    NO 3rd row

    NO Sunroof

    NO NAV


    I have never seen one like that and even the Toy web site does not let you price one out this way.


    I really liked the runner but it looks like I may have to find another option.


    Thanks. D
  • coranchercorancher Posts: 232
    hms, I'm hearing more and more about stability control preventing rollovers and injuries/deaths. Apparently it's frequently a loss of directional control and/or overshooting that lead to rollovers. I'm guessing the rollovers themselves are caused by the loss of control leading to encounters with soft road shoulders, curbs, steep embankments, and sideways skids.


    Unfortunately I don't think stability control can be retrofitted due to the number of components involved. In addition to an adequate braking system you need one or more accelerometers to figure out the direction of vehicle travel/rotation, and a steering sensor to figure out driver intent. Unless a vehicle was already pre-equipped to some degree (maybe VSC was an option that was available but not installed, so the wiring and sensors might be there) it would probably be cheaper to trade for a newer vehicle that had the technology.


    The 4th generation (2003+) 4Runners all have this as standard equipment and I've heard that some 2000+ or 2001+ models had it as well. Maybe others can provide more specific information.
  • dadoftaydadoftay Posts: 136
    i haven't been down the spec sheet and you may have covered this earlier, but wouldn't a Sport model fit the bill? I think, judging by all the time I've spent looking at different makes, you want a super cool looking vehicle but don't want all the stuff on the inside is like a needle in a haystack. Options, as have been explained to me by 3 different manufacturers, are done in packages. You can't just get a 4Runner with side bags and not get the sink in the console. You wouldn't want the 6-disc changer and not have the tinted windows to hide it. Toyota isn't the only one. About the only way to "one-off" something is to go American. I looked at GM and Ford and you can get a base model F150 with vinyl flooring and no power windows/locks/keyless, but they will let you get the 18" aluminum wheels and 2-tone paint like the Lariat. Domestics know it's all about the look.
  • depdep Posts: 79
    The major issue is that I can't fit in the runner /w a sun roof as I am too tall but I want the other options that come /w a Limited and really insist on having side curtain airbags.


    Personally, I don't care for the look of the Sport and I don't think you can get leather in that trim line, right?


  • hmshms Posts: 2
    Thanks for the advice.

    I guess I will have to wait until my ship comes in. Until then, just extra care on rain-slick curves...
  • dadoftaydadoftay Posts: 136
    You are correct, I wasn't thinking leather and no I don't believe you can opt. leather in a Sport. I know it sound left field but have you been in a Sequoia? Maybe the extra size of the vehicle could help you fit a little more comfortably? Just a thought.
  • The dealer I am working with (in Buffalo) told me that they work with a place that can add the leather and heat to the seats..something you might want to look into
  • dadoftaydadoftay Posts: 136
    I used to detail vehicles for a living and for the door/window weatherstrip use straight slilicone spray. Auto supply or even Home Depot has it. Spray it on the strip about 3" away so as not to spray paint, glass, etc. It not only cleans the strip, it keeps it soft and pliable.
  • dadoftaydadoftay Posts: 136
    This may have been addressed before but I only saw a brief post on the V8. I was bouncing between a 4Runner and a Tacoma to replace my work truck(after several other makes/models) and I found out now I don't really need the bed. So I pose my question from the Tacoma page... what are real world mpg figures for a 2WD, V6, SR5 4Runner? My driving is 95% highway around 70mph.
  • My 4x4 V6 SR5 4Runner gets 21-mpg highway, 16-city. I suspect you'd 1-mpg better than that.
  • Can someone please help. I have an 03 4runner sr5 with 265/70/16 tires on stock sr5 rims and would like to have a "bigger/bolder" look (like the sport or limited - I believe that they have 17 inch rims). Can someone recommend bigger tires without them looking too aggressive or without having to do a suspension lift?
  • In some respects, count your blessings you have the 16" wheels. There is a sorry selection for 17" replacements.


    Go to

    and read the reviews. On this thread, owners with the 17" Michelin Cross Terrains are ecstatic about their tires, especially in icy conditions.
  • Oh, I'd forget about the bigger/bolder look. The computer will defeat any intentions you might have, like mud tires you can't spin in the mud! Personally, just stick with what works well with this vehicle. I haven't read of anyone modifying their 4Runner to accomodate bigger tires, & I've been reading this blog since early 2003.
  • dadoftaydadoftay Posts: 136
    Thanks! I'll post you if I squeeze 22 and 17 out of a 2WD ;). Newto4R, as far as tires go, call 4WD Parts Wholesalers. Sorry, don't remember number or web. Nitto makes off-road tires in "not-normal" sizes(all those F150 riding on 23" wheels). Remember, if your only going for look, don't get too wild with the tread design. Noise and vibration from big cool looking tread blocks becomes an annoying, expensive lesson.


    Also, canddmeyer makes a great point, don't get crazy with the oversizing part. A good rule is this:


      If your size is 235/75R15, and you want bigger tires..

      changing the 235 number by one size (say 265, being wider) you have to change the 75 by taking away the same amount you added, here being 30. Thus, your aspect ratio, or height, now becomes 45. Your rim sizes stays the same. So you would go from 235/75R15 to 265/45R15 to keep computers and speedometers correct. It gets really fun when you change wheel sizes!!!
  • lynx50lynx50 Posts: 7
    Suggest you try the following toyota dealership in the St Louis area:
  • Does anyone know what company makes the navigation unit software for the '05 4Runner? If you have an '05, can a passenger be adjusting the nav unit while you are moving or do you have to pull over and stop? I am comparing '05 Pathfinder to '05 4Runner. Thanks.
  • Thanks for the info. My intention was to get the next size up ( I have 265/70/16 ) so maybe

    275/75/16's might work. I would like to get some

    good all weather tires, not mud tires or anything

    like that.
  • alfster1alfster1 Posts: 273
    I am not sure of who makes the NAV unit, but you do have to be stopped or going less than 5mph to use the NAV system. This is a safety feature that is built in. You can preprogram 10 destination buttons and press them while driving though, however, you can not enter addresses or access other features on the fly.
  • Thanks alfster1. The Toyota salesperson told me a passenger could use it while the vehicle was moving. Did not make sense with the other research I have done. However, I have decided on the '05 Pathfinder even though I like the 4Runner nav better. The Path. just has so much more for the price.
  • dadoftaydadoftay Posts: 136
    I don't think you'd run into any problems only going up one size like that. If you're looking for a good all around all-terrain, the Michelin Cross Terrain, Toyo Cross Country or Yokohama Geolander could be good set ups. I have to retract on the Nitto tires, my buddy only got about 22K out of his set. Not too good!
  • I just purchased one and I am very happy with it.


    But I do have a question regarding the 4x4 operation.

    When I shift from H2 to H4, both the center differential lock light and the 4 wheel drive light start flashing and they keep flashing until the 4 wheel drive system is fully engaged.

    At that point, the center differential lock light stops flashing(goes off) and the 4 Wheel drive light stays on.


    So my question is, is the center differential lock light supposed to flash during that time ? Is this normal ?


  • since the extreme cold weather conditions, I am hearing a noise coming from the area of the front windsheild and dashboard area. to date I have sprayed silicone to this area ran the defrost at hi temperature with no results. it is most obvious when traveling over bumps and dips in the road. ? any suggestions.
  • 2toyotas2toyotas Posts: 104
    It is totally normal. Until 4WD is fully engaged it is locked and you should only drive straight ahead or backwards until the system engages. Never turn while the system is not fully engaged. It takes a little longer to engage if you are on an incline or decline. If you are not driving and switch to 4WD or back to 2WD after you turn the knob put the transmission in neutral and it will engage very fast.
  • sauriasauria Posts: 12
    Sure it's not in the front of the driver's door? I have a visor sound and driver's door rattle especially on cold days.
  • kheintz1kheintz1 Posts: 213
    My '03 4Runner Limited had the same noise during its first winter (and in fact I posted a question about this), but interestingly, this noise doesn't seem present this winter. This suggests that whatever was causing the noise may tend to subside as the involved structures settle in over time(?).


    Not too long ago, someone answered my post by saying that he had a similar noise with a Rav4 during cold weather. As I recall, he believed the noise was coming from an interaction between the exterior cowling at the base of the windshield, and the glass itself. I also recall that he reportedly solved this noise problem by carefully injecting (spraying) some WD-40 between this cowling and the exterior windshield glass. Let us know how you make out.
  • gsj3gsj3 Posts: 20
    I have a 2003 sport and it is a handful at highway speeds! A little bit of wind and forget about it. And who would ever put different length and width blades on a truck? What morons! I couldn't believe that! Has your windshield cracked yet? It will, this is the weakest glass I have ever seen. I'm not that happy with this thing at all, oh you have the V6 diesel?

    Well mine sounds like one anyway, thanks Toyota, Oh what a feeling!
  • I've already had 3 rock hit repairs on the windshield since I purchased it 8/2004. I've also removed my running boards to see if it helps in crosswinds, but of course I haven't experienced a windy day since. I'm happy with my engine - no complaints. Gotta love those washed out HVAC controls in daylight.


    A few posts ago there was a conversation about engaging 4WD. Wait til you're stuck and find out you cannot engage 4WD cuz you can't get the vehicle to move to engage it. Oh, what a feeling!
  • oops...vehicle w/V6 purchased 8/2003
  • Ok you smart mechanics, try this one.

    Ref a 2003 4runner sr5 .. 55000 miles.

    A dealer has had this suv for a month and cannot find the problem.

    Symptoms are that it runs fine up to about 30/40 mph, then if you press on the gas, even slightly, the engine falters. Idles fine, will rev up as far as you like as long as it is standing still. It is performance under load that causes the problem.

    Things checked have been "bad gas", tank was drained and a fuel drier added to a new tankfull, no help. fuel pressure is apparently ok, checked under load I am told. NO ENGINE WARNING LIGHT SHOWS and hookup to the diagnostic computer shows nothing!

    I have no reason to think the service rep is not trying, he tells me he has talked to Toyotas Gurus in california and they are puzzled as well. Any suggestions would be welcome, better yet has anyone had the same problem? Feel to contact me at if you want to chat.
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