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  • Well, I finally made the move. After a dozen dealers, many questions and constant hunting, I finally purchased a Jeep. Could not find what I was looking for in Connecticut( red Sport, 03,04) and gave up the search due to a scheduled vacation to Cape Cod. Reading the local paper at the Cape, there it was. Well almost. I saw an ad for a red Freedon Edition at a Jeep dealership near the Cape. I'm not usually interested in "special editions" of anything but the ad looked interesting. Turns out that it was previously owned by one of the female managers at the dealership. Low key dealership, no pressure. So I saw the Jeep (made my wife crazy) talked at length to the previous owner. 10000 pampered miles,solid black interior, 5 speed and red, red, red with both tops. Hardtop on at present. I like the solid color. My last Jeep was solid olive drab, so I guess its just a preference. I can always change to black flares if I get bored (douttful). Pick it up tomarrow and goodbye to the boring Sebring convertable. No offence to anyone. Nice car-just boring. Very excited and can't wait to take off the special edition decals. Also, not to sure about the chrome wheels but that all changeable. Well, I'm Fat City. Hope all goes well tomarrow. Thanks to anyone who responded to my questions. I'm on the road again!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591

    The Freedom Edition has color-keyed flares, right? If they are painted red to match the body, I'm sure they look fine. The Sahara models have always had color-keyed flares, and they look good.

    It's those "medium gray" flares that so many of us have expressed our extreme dislike for. They are not painted, and they just look awful. Actually, they look like they are WAITING to be painted.

    So, your Jeep is an 04 Freedom with 10K miles on it? COOL! CONGRATULATIONS! I know you are gonna have a ball with it! Keep us posted, John!




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  • Congratulations!!! Welcome to the Red Jeep Club!! Mine is a Red Columbia Edition which is basically an X with different color seats, a silver bezel on the dash, graphite flares, matching graphite wheels and fog lights. What makes a Freedom edition different?

    Yours in Jeep Coolness,

  • Good to hear from you. Thanks for your past advice to do "keyword" for info. It helped alot. I agree per the grey flares. I have seem them. Terrible!!! I can't believe they did not poll current Jeep owners or just take a good look at how they take away from the flow of what makes the eyes feel good. Grey and red? Grey and white? Grey and Green? It might work with silver but thats still a stretch. A big stretch. Yes, the Freedom Edition has color-keyed flares . I had to actually feel them-they match so well. The Freedom is an '03. Still learning about the model. A built up X from what I understand.Has the center console. She (the previous owner) added a Jeep side step and a black door entry guard. The interior is the solid black vinal, which I like. I have never been to crazy about the Jeep print they use for their cloth seats. Personal choice. Some folks I spoke to about the '03 Freedom commented that the auto is not as quick as the "04.Perhaps a different transmission for that year? I don"t know. I got the 5 speed. Also, the Freedom I am getting is fully carpeted. That surprised me but I'll take it. I liked the dealership. When I took it for a ride, I asked if I could do all road surfaces or is it a 5 min. series of right turns? The sales woman said that the Jeep had a half a tank of gas and I could use it all and go wherever I wanted.Fifty miles down the road I'm sure she regretted the offer. But even she had fun. I used the gas , was more than pleased and hopefully at $18,400 did OK. Got the best of all trade-in offers at "many" dealers . Bad time to trade a convertable.Hopefully a good time to buy-end of month. I'll hug it tomarrow. Now I have a fishing partner-with 6 cylinders for bait. Go Easy, John
  • Thanks for the welcome. Most of the difference is in the email to Tsjay. It also has Jeep chrome wheels. Still trying to decide about the chrome. So far so good. Some decals that will go and thats it. But very Red with the flares.I like the dash on the Columbia, and the seats. Talked to the owner of one and he loved it. How do you like the graphite flares? Are they a gun metal color or brighter? Do you have a rack for the hang glider? Go Easy, John
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    ..............but this black one shows the wheels, which are the main external difference.



    As the legendary Jeep vehicle, Wrangler continues to deliver a one-of-a-kind feeling of fun, freedom and adventure. Building on that reputation, the Freedom Edition of the 2003 Jeep Wrangler is distinguished by body colored fender flares, a soft-top with full metal doors, fog lamps and tow hooks. Outlined white letter P225/75R15 Goodyear all-terrain tires mount on 15-inch chrome wheels.

    Inside, the Jeep Wrangler Freedom Edition comes with air conditioning, Sentry Key® theft-deterrent system, easy access Fold-and-Tumble™ rear seat and a choice of Dark Slate Gray vinyl or cloth seating.

    Under the hood is the legendary 4.0-liter Power Tech I-6 engine pumping out 190 horsepower (142 kW) at 4,600 rpm, and 235 lb.-ft (319 Nm) of torque at 3,200 rpm with a five-speed manual transmission. Jeep Wrangler Freedom Edition features the Command-Trac® part-time four-wheel drive system.

    The entire Freedom Edition Jeep line will be available in red, silver, blue and black exterior colors. In addition, the Jeep Grand Cherokee Freedom Edition will also be available in Graphite Metallic.

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  • I was impressed, they called just to see that everything was ok, and ask if I had any questions. they also wanted to check to see that their staff was well trained. they also invited me to a sort of open house they have at the end of every month for all the people they sell vehicles to, to get acquanted with the dealership. its 2 hours away, in the middle of the week, so i passed on that, but they said if I was ever over that way at the end of the month to stop in.

    I really never expected the service and follow up they have already given me and, they know their jeeps.

  • mcrrtmcrrt Posts: 93
    I like to mount an ag-style utility light to my back bumper to supplement the weak reverse lights. Any suggestions for how to safely (and as easily as possible!) wire something like this so it turns on when the factory lights turn on? Thanks!

  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Hold on, are you SURE you would want that big light to come on automatically when you go into reverse? If you are in town, couldn't that be a problem? Looks like it would be better to have a switch for it on the dash???


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  • mcrrtmcrrt Posts: 93

    Guess I'm not really sure why it would be a problem...I'm only thinking of a light somewhere in the range of 35-55 watts (no brighter than a common fog light). I guess I didn't think it would be all that big; I'm thinking roughly 5-6 inches in diameter. I'm open to input-what problems do foresee that I'm not thinking of? Thanks for the help!

  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Just thought it might blind someone behind you in traffic, like if you were parallel parking or whatever. I guess I thought you were talking about a much brighter light.

    Might not be a problem at all.


    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • Thanks. I appreciate the pic and info. John
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    Whether you want the more powerful lights to work together with, or independently of, your existing reversing lights, make sure you use a relay. Use a heavy gauge wire for the power and ground, and make sure to fuse the power wire close to the point it connects to positive supply. The relay can then be triggered either by your reverse light circuit, or an independent switch.

    If you just connect the lights in parallel with the existing reversing lights you'll blow fuses........... or worse, you'll melt the wiring loom and have an interesting pyrotechnic display to boot!

  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    You're welcome.

  • I think the Columbia Flares are a little darker than gunmetal. Their painted with a nice metal flake. No rack yet. Still refining my list of accessories. Will probably go with a Conga Cage.

    Yours in Jeep Coolness,

  • if you use a light in that is similar in electrical draw to trailer lights, could you hook it into a regular trailer wiring harness.


    that would also allow it to be easily unplugged when not needed.
  • The lead manager of new cars called me on monday to apologize for all the confusion. He said the guy i was dealing with had quit on friday and they had found my number on my offer sheet. They offered me $4,500 but can not do the military discount on the unlimited, the only jeep product not allowing this discount??? wonder why...

    Anyway, they only had 6 soft tops left in 2 colors, and they were not my first or second choice. To obtain a different color would cost me $850 due to dealer hold back. Therefore, I have decided to wait until next year as i did not want to settle on a color, i want what i want. :-)

    I was able to see the 05' unlimited and i like the fender flares matching the paint. I did see the new grey hardtop on a white 05' and imo it did not look as good as the black. Now the 05's still had a black soft top and is what i would get anyway.

    I know i would regret buying now even with a excellent deal as i really want the Unlimited Rubicon soft top and will wait until next year. Yes its hard to do as i SEE EVERY WRANGLER on the road, LOL, seemed everyone had their top down yesterday.....Oh i was offered $301/month 36 month lease which was a good price, but then i could not do mods to a vehicle that is not mine. Regards, Jeff
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Man, a RUBICON Unlimited would be worth the wait! GO FOR IT!


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  • Don't buy something you don't want just because the price was right.

    Hold out for what you want and know you will enjoy!

  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    I don't think they want your business (too good of a deal? - sounds like they would have lost money).

    I bought my Unlimited about 2 weeks ago and I got the military discount, no problem (they did ask for documentation). It sounds like they don't want to work with you that much.

    And since you really want the Rubicon Unlimited, then you should definitely wait and get that. There is nothing worse than settling for a car you don't really want or like - I did it and it only took a couple of months to go from "oh, well..." to "Yuck" to "I hate it, when can I get rid of it?"

    And each time you see a Wrangler with the top down, just think that in a couple of months that will be YOU! And your vehicle is worth waiting for.
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Cat got everyone's fingers?


    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    Postings are down or nonexistant on all the Town Hall boards I regularly check on. I'm guessing that the logon issue bears some part of the blame.
  • gman1259gman1259 Posts: 209
    I have to go through the log in process every time...even when web site is working properly.
  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    I've noticed the lack of postings also - this computer glitch is definitely having an effect on my Edmunds addiction.

    I've talked to the Camp Jeep and the dealership and the dealership said they would try to work something out. We'll see how it goes. I read the back and I'm not sure I really have a leg to stand on - they are clear that it is supposed to be reflected in the contract, but I'll try and see what happens.

    I'm still happy with my Unlimited - the $500 would just be a nice addition.
  • jeff62301jeff62301 Posts: 310
    an extra $500 buys new toys for GiGi.


    Hope GiGi gets what she wants...
  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    in the mail yesterday. ;) I'd love to be able to buy some stuff for Kermit!

    A TJ in our parking lot at work as a 3-4" Procomp lift, Warn front/rear bumpers and tire carrier and a Warn xd8000i winch... nice. ;)

  • goducks1goducks1 Posts: 432
    Hey all. I've been gone for a couple months, the business has really been taking off. Did I miss anything? I sure am loving this fall weather now that the hurricanes are past, no doors no top no rain no humidity...
  • steverstever Posts: 52,572
    Rumor is that a fix failed, so no go until Monday now at the earliest.


    Hey Ducks - got ash?

    Yeah, wrong coast I guess, but what other Ducks are there?

    Steve, Host
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