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  • The only good thing to come from this is I finally memorized my password assigned by Edmunds.

    Terry
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,059
    Way to go!

    I know it's a pain. Some browsers and helper programs will remember your password and enter it into the sign on forms for you automatically.

    tidester, host
  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    Hi, Scott! Good to hear from you again, and to find out that everything in your area is fine. There's all kinds of new Wranglers out there!

    Steve - thanks for letting us know what is going on.

    Terry - I think there's a way to change your password to something easier to remember. I don't remember how I did it, but I know that mine is one that I set, rather than one they assigned.

    I dropped off my coupon this afternoon and the dealership had a 2005 Grand Cherokee in their showroom. I still think it is one nice vehicle, but I'm not so keen about the exterior styling as I was before. I do think it's wonderful inside. Also noticed that the Hemi engine is rated at 19 for highway - I thought it was 20 (not that 1 mpg means much). Of course, the dealership had a huge mark-up on the window and I wonder if it will sell at that price - too much competition.

    I wonder what kind of gift I should get for GiGi if they do honor the coupon - maybe put in an XM radio head and tuner? The 7 speaker package is fine for me, so I'm not planning on upgrading the speakers (I'm not an audiophile). Definitely some type of car washing kit - I'm so used to using car washes and it has been years since I actually washed one myself.
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Not you, Harriet, I used an "i," not an "e." :)

    I think you should get a winch. Even though you don't do more than "mild" wheelin', you never know when a winch might come in handy, either for yourself or to help someone else.

    And... a nice looking winch really looks natural on the front of a Jeep. A winch makes a Jeep look "Jeepier." I see pics of Thelma Jane before she got her winch, and I think, "Whoa! What's wrong with this picture?"

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?

    P.S. Oh, you will need at least double that $500 for a good winch, mounting plate, and accessory kit. I got mine from Bob Supplee Enterprises for $1150 delivered. That was a Warn 9.5 Ti, Warn mounting plate, and a Warn accessory kit.
  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    I'm sort of in a quandry about these types of things. If I get a winch I really should put it on the Black Steed, which will be getting most of the off-roading time. However, when we picked up GiGi, my husband took a close look at a Rubicon they had on the lot and he announced that would be NBS's replacement. Of course, that is at least one or 2 years out and a whole bunch can change before then, but it did start me thinking about what kind of toys I should get for which vehicle.

    By the way, when I mentioned that you had suggested a winch, he asked me why he needed one - he already had one. Is this a case of "Great minds think alike?"
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    Fitting a winch isn't high tech, though it does require some muscle to lift it, so why not fit one to the older Jeep then transfer it to the new old when it's time for the old one to go?
  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    I might get a winch later on but not right now. We stopped at a car stereo today on our way to Costco and discovered that Alpine has a radio head that includes the XM tuner, so you no longer need to find a place for the tuner or use a Roady. Guess what I'll be getting around the end of the month...
  • Tom. Well I finally picked up the Red Freedom Edition. Mass. dealership drove her down and we did the transfer at the Connecticut DMV. All went well. The salesperson drove it (20 year old young woman) who knew more about Jeeps than any other salesperson I came into contact with. All went well and "Rosie" is outside waiting to do a little backroad fishin. Sebring is history!!!! Go Easy, John
  • jeff62301jeff62301 Posts: 310
    Congrat's!!!

    man there have been a lot of new jeeps bought by people on this message board in the last month. I'm still not so sure that Tom isn't on the payroll with Jeep, he's more convincing than any of the sales people I talked with.

    jts

    have fun!!
  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    And Tom's a whole lot more knowledgeable than some of them.
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    John:

    CONGRATULATIONS!

    Yeeeeeeeeeeehawwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!!

    We need pics!

    Hey, we want to hear all about your first impressions of that Jeep, so post, post, post.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Well, my Jeep Buddies, old Thelma Jane kinda had a rough time of it in Buttpucker Gulch today.

    I don't think I actually broke it in there, but my CB antenna fell off in BP Gulch, after breaking off at the base, where it threads into the connector.

    I made it through that toughest spot in BP Gulch, where the left rear wants to get down into that deep hole, making the right front want to get up in the air. But, the right rear slipped into a hole just after I made it through that place.

    In trying to climb out of that hole, I cut the sidewall of the right rear tire on a sharp rock (I guess). POP! There went a $140 tire!

    Also, as you can see in the picture, I crunched the right rear corner of the hard top into the side of the gulch. You can see the "white" showing, which means I scrubbed off the black paint, and I got down into the fiberglass.

    That right rear corner panel took some punishment, so I guess it earned its keep today. I STILL don't like the looks of them, though.

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    My spotter says he put me on the right line, but it was just so dusty and dry that the walls of the gully were slick (like they were coated with talcum powder).

    Oh well, if ya gonna play, ya gotta pay (sometimes). I had enough fun today to make up for the troubles I had.

    We had to use the winch to get Thelma out of BP Gulch.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • steverstever Posts: 52,462
    Ah, if you're not breaking stuff you're not having enough fun.

    $140? That just covers the greens fee and cart rental at some country clubs. Where would you rather be? :-)

    Steve, Host
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    To add insult to injury, a lug stud snapped off when one of my Jeep Buds tried to loosen the nut to change the tire for me. :(

    Just not my day, I guess.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    Annoying I agree, but not a high price to pay for a hobby.

    By the way, were you running your tires at a lower pressure?
  • Could someone please explain the difference in the lockers vs the limited slip 4x4 system on the Rubicon vs. the Sport/Sahara/X wranglers? Also, what makes the Dana44 axle superior to others?

    Thanks for your input. A 4x4 newbie!
    Chuck
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    The Dana 44 has larger diameter axle shafts, the axle tube is made of thicker steel so that it will not deflect as easily, and I believe even the gears are stronger compared to the Dana 35.

    All of this is important if you are going to do more than light off-roading. There is a super, super good deal called the AAS package, if you get a Sport. This package gets you 30" tires, gas shocks, the really nice looking Ravine wheels, and THE DANA 44 REAR AXLE! It has to be the world's greatest bargain (It used to be only $850. Not sure about now.). You can trade-in those 30" GSA's and get some REAL tires.

    The Rubicon has SELECTABLE lockers, and those puppies are VERY expensive to buy after market. Selectable lockers are nice, since you can turn them off when driving on pavement. Lockers have some undesirable side effects on pavement, so being able to turn them off and on is a great feature.

    The rear Dana 44 on a Rubicon is limited slip, with a full locker too. When you turn off the locker, you still have limited slip back there. This is really the best of both worlds!

    A locker truly locks both sides of the differential, so that BOTH tires will turn, even if one is completely off the ground. This can be VERY important in off roading.

    A limited slip will make both tires turn, but you have to have at least a little bit of traction on each tire. If one is completely off the ground, the other side will not turn. You can "fool" the differential by applying some brake and gas at the same time. The brake makes the differential "think" that both tires have traction, because there is some resistance to turning.

    If you can afford it, and if you think there is even a slight chance you will get into off roading, then get the Rubi by all means! They are a tremendous bargain compared to buying a Sport and adding all the goodies that you get to start with on a Rubi.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    Lockers: mac24 Sep 19, 2004 6:48pm
    Lots more in previous posts if you use the search.

    D44/35: The rear 44 has stronger axle shafts and a slightly larger R&P and housing. The tubes are the same as the 35. The front 44 (Rubi)is really a hybrid 44/30 and offers no real advantage.

    ABS is unavailable on the 44, though this may be about to change.
  • Thanks Tom. I have been told the same thing: Buy a Rubicon and forget the aftermarket stuff. I have a house in the mountains of NC (live in northern VA) and I used to do off roading with an old CJ-7 with having to "lock the hubs". I wondered what the difference was. I think I have a better understanding now!

    Chuck
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    "The Dana 44 has larger diameter axle shafts, the axle tube is made of thicker steel so that it will not deflect as easily..........."

    Tom, I'm afraid that this a myth. The D35 and D44 tubes are the same. It appears to have been started by the same people that say the D35 will explode if you look at it wrong!

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  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    I stand corrected on the tube. Thanks, Old Mac!

    I still say that if a person can live without anti-lock brakes, why in the world NOT get the stronger of the two rear axles?

    I am SO glad that I learned about the advantage of the Dana 44 before ordering Thelma Jane! I know that even a 44 can be broken, and I know that a lot of the broken 35's are the results of driver stupidity. Still, there is no denying that the 44 is quite a bit stronger than the 35.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    "I know that even a 44 can be broken, and I know that a lot of the broken 35's are the results of driver stupidity. Still, there is no denying that the 44 is quite a bit stronger than the 35."

    Agreed, on all three points!
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Just noticed your post asking if I was aired down when I cut the sidewall.

    No, I wasn't. I run 28 psi on the street, and I am not in the habit of airing down for wheelin' at Turkey Bay. It's partly laziness. They have free air at TB, so I could air back up at the end of the day.

    Most of the guys I wheel with do air down.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    Ok, I'm not saying that it would have made a difference in that particular case, but why not try airing down (to say 12psi) next time to compare the difference in traction.

    Don't forget, it took a long time before you became a believer in running disconnected.......... it's about time you had another eye opener!

    ;--)
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Well, Mac, I aired down that one particular tire! Very rapidly. :)

    I have aired down a time or two at TB, and I really couldn't tell any difference. It all depends on the situation, I'm sure, and maybe I was getting some benefit from being aired down that I didn't even notice.

    I agree with the concept of airing down, just too lazy to do it most of the time.

    There are disadvantages to airing down, too. I have seen guys pop their beads in BP Gulch due to being aired down.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    They have a compressor in a small building at TB, and they have just a pipe with a female quick disconnect fitting sticking out through the wall. To air your tires up, you have to go borrow the air hose at the entrance shack, or you have your own hose with you.

    I made-up my own hose with the proper fitting on it, so, you see, I was preparing to air down sometime. :)

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • First impressions are great. This is the newest Jeep I have ever owned.Ample acceleration, good on the highway, corners like a Jeep (keeps you awake), has more luxury than I'm used to in a Jeep, and quieter than I expected. The little arrow that recommends that you shift is interesting. It must be for better milage. I like to wind it up a little more than the arrow suggests. Have to read the manuel. Tire noise not bad and very little noise from the hardtop. It has the sounds I am accustomed to when in neutral. Took it out in a good down pour. I had read many emails concerning poor handling in the rain. You just have to pay attention and remember that your not driving a car. Off road this week with a friend and hopefully some tailgate fishing on the Connecticut River. Looks like you have some work to do-Good Luck, John
  • gman1259gman1259 Posts: 209
    Tom,

    Since you are going to have your top painted why not have them through a little white paint on those panels? I think they will blend right into the rest of the body.
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    I will probably just rattle can the top to cover the areas that are white right now. No sense having a proper job done on that top, cause it will probably happen again.

    Someday, I will probably paint those panels white. I have gotten more used to them, but I know they would look much better white.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    So glad you are enjoying that Jeep! I knew you would love it.

    Good luck on your fishing trip.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
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