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  • After the engine is at normal operating temperature when it is at idle the engine shakes like it is missing. This is about 500 rpm. Maybe the rpm's are too low. I haven't had a straight 6 before so I don't know how smooth they are. I definitely will have the dealer check it out.
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    You have a problem and you've probably correctly identified it. Idle speed should be 750 rpm. If it's lower and the engine shakes it's almost certainly a misfire, probably an ignition or injector problem.


    Back to the dealer for you! Definitely a warranty problem.


    By the way, an inline six is inherently the smoothest running configuration out there, followed by a V12.
  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    My Unlimited mileage did improve a bit after about 6,000 miles, but not a dramatic amount. It doesn't seem to be as consistent as the Sport is, and is about 1-2 mpg lower than the Sport, though that could be because the Sport is a 5 speed and the Unlimited is an auto. I've got 16,000 miles on her now and we get between 17-19 most of the time. The only time I get above 19 is when I'm going downhill with a tail wind.


    By the way, I LOVE having a wireless card in my laptop. We didn't make it as far as we wanted to today, so we stopped somewhere that offers wireless internet access.


    And the Unlimited soft top kept us warm on the snowy streets of Las Vegas today (yes, quite a bit of snow!).
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591


    Hey, WELCOME to Edmunds Jeep Wrangler! And, CONGRATS on that new Jeep!


    Sorry you are having a little problem with it. Nothing should interefere with the pure joy of having a new Jeep. I hope whatever is wrong gets fixed soon.


    Stay with us and be part of the family here. Tell us all about that new Unlimited.




    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • I went to another dealer in North Jersey who only sells and repairs Jeep vehicles. They said it could be caused by a variety of things. Vacuum leak, leak in the manifold or something they could not pinpoint without doing alot of costly exploratory work. It is a '97 with 100,000 miles on it. The service guy said it was not worth doing if I could live with the noise. I am lucky to have a another vehicle that I can use(Land Rover LR3)and use the Jeep as a second vehicle. Anything major occurs I will post it on this site.


    Thanks again.
  • Hey I was just wondering if my soft-top for my '01 Sport would fit a '04 Rubicon. There is a Rubicon for 22900, but I'm sure I can get him to 19900 and my Sport is paid off. So if I could get a good amount for my Sport,I might consider it. My warranty just expired and I'm at 36000 miles with no real problems to date. For an extra 5-7 thousand I wonder if the Rubicon is worth it. My wife thinks no, but I wonder? Any thoughts.
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    I bet your new LR3 makes the TJ seem very crude in comparison.


    As for the vacuum leak (an inlet manifold leak counts as vacuum too), it shouldn't take a qualified tech with the right equipment more than twenty minutes to locate it; and it shouldn't take the average unqualified Joe without any specialized equipment more than an hour or so. There's really not much to the vacuum system on a Jeep.
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    Is this a new one? If so, an '04 Rubicon for $19,900 sounds like a deal it would be hard to walk away from.
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Yeah, I'm with Mac! How could you NOT buy for that price???




    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • It's got just under 10,000 miles on it. The only reason I already don't have it is my financial situation. I just built a house and my wife and myself are in school to be teachers so the money isn't exactly flowing if you know what I mean. But, for that price, you can probably see my dilemma. I might go test drive it tomorrow and see what I can get for my Sport. If the payment was palatable, then I just might do it.
  • 99tj99tj Posts: 187
    Since nobody has mentioned it, I'll bring it up.

    If the Edmunds folks are listening; here's a little feedback.

    I like the redesign of the site. Reminds me of a certain SPORTS website, but that's OK. Much easier to navigate through now.


  • steverstever Posts: 52,572
    Thanks Dan, even though I'm scratching my head about the Sports reference (ESPN?). If it's another forum, you can keep me in the dark <g>.


    People are talking about the good (and the, bad) over in Forums Software! Your Questions Answered...


    Steve, Host
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,059
    Not yet - at least not officially until tomorrow! :-)


    tidester, host
  • Just wondering if anyone has ripped out the carpeting in their Jeep and had a bedliner sprayed in. If I keep my Sport, which I'm leaning towards, I'd like to do this because my dogs make my jeep stink when their wet and this would solve my problem. Also, would it increase or decrease the value of it? Seem like a good idea to me. Any thoughts?
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591


    I was all set to have my Jeep Rhino-lined this past summer, but the TV went out on us, and I couldn't afford to get a new TV and still go on with the Rhino-lining.


    It's still on my to do list.


    I did a pretty good amount of research, and there seemed to be a consensus of opinion that Rhino-lining was better than the do-it-yourself stuff, like Hercu-liner. Once applied, the Rhino liner will NOT come up.


    I was going to have the Rhino-lining done everywhere that there is carpet right now. It was gonna run me $500 or a little more, if I remember correctly, and I had to take everything out of the Jeep and drive it to the guy's shop with only the drivers seat in it. Console had to be out of it, back seat brackets, seat belt brackets in back, etc.


    If the guy at the shop was gonna have to do all of that removal and reinstallation of the seats and stuff, he was gonna charge an extra $200.


    I hope I can have that done this summer. I also have a doggie who gets that cargo area pretty muddy and full of dog hair. The dog hair sticks to that carpet like glue!




    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • Thanks Tom, I was looking at the Rhino and Line-X. Aslo, my buddy owns a car stereo/leather/sunroof place and he knows guys who'll do it and I can take everything out at his shop. I'm pretty sure I'm going to do it. If I can't afford it, I'll probably just swipe it on a card. I figure I'll save money trying to keep it clean in the long run.
  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    I was wondering if it is normal to have problems getting out of 4 low. We used 4 low yesterday to get up a very snowy hill (could have gotten up it in 4 high but didn't know that at the bottom of the hill). When we got to the top we couldn't get it out of 4 low at all (though it came out this morning after about the 3rd try). This is the second time we've had problems with it. Is there some trick to it with the auto or something? We never had much problem getting in and out of 4 low with the Sport, so it surprises me in the Unlimited.


    Thanks for any help!
  • 01r101r1 Posts: 280
    I don't think its normal to have problems getting out of 4low, but there is a trick to make it smoother. First, make sure the steering is pointed straight ahead. With the Jeep rolling at about 2-4 mph, put the transmission in Neutral and then make one swift shift from 4low to 2high without stopping in the middle. Mine can be difficult if I shift too slow.


    Then again, you may have to have the dealer adjust the linkage. My linkage to the transfer case wasn't set properly from the start. When I did the body lift I had to re-adjust the linkage and since then it shifts from High to Low to High without problems.


  • Hey all!


    You guys seem more than knowledgeable about the Wrangler.

    It's a great vehicle that I've wanted since high school (almost 30 now). I can't wait to get my taxes done this year and get them back so i can get rid of the WORST purchase i ever made, my Eclipse.

    I live in NY so i need something like the unlimited for the winter.

    I have a couple of easy questions for you Jeepophiles :)

    1. Are there any laws against driving Door less?

    2. How hard is it to remove the hardtop on an Unlimited?


    I look forward to braggin to you guys about my purchase. I just can't wait until April to get it (I'm like a six year old when it comes to waiting).


    Take care guys!


    p.s. Tom thanks for all the knowledge you've already given me just by reading your advice here.
  • I had trouble getting in and out of 4-lo with my 2000 automatic. The trick was being in neutral and that little bit of forward motion. After I got the hang of that, no trouble. It seems funny to me you have to have the motion to get it to work. What if you are stuck, or I can imagine off road situations where you can't move.


  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591


    You're welcome, but you should have also gotten lots of good advice from Mac and the rest gang. I guess I'm just more vocal in my love for Jeeps than most. :)


    I think you would just have to check the laws in NY about being doorless. Some states have side mirror requirements, but that can be overcome with mirror relocator brackets.


    As far as taking the top off, it is a two man job. Even for a standard wheel base Wrangler, the hard top is HEAVY and AWKWARD. The longer top for an Unlimited would be even heavier.


    I have the hard top only on my Thelma Jane, and it works out pretty well for me. But, when I take the top off, I try to stay topless all summer. Taking the top off and putting it back on are not jobs that you would want to do every day or two.


    Good luck in your pursuit of a Jeep! You will NEVER be sorry if you get one. Ain't nothin' like 'em!!!


    Deifinitely keep us posted on your progress, OK? Ask any and all questions that come to mind.




    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,059
    Yikes! You're going have Tom salivating! ;-)


    tidester, host
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    The Hurricane makes for a good offroad toy:




    But I'd prefer the Gladiator as an all round daily driver:








    Jeep ® Gladiator Preliminary Specifications:


    Vehicle Weight: 4,150 lb (est.)

    Length: 205" (5,207 mm)

    Wheelbase: 138.4" (3,515 mm)

    Front Overhang: 28.3" (718 mm)

    Rear Overhang: 38.3" (974 mm)

    Width (MAX): 76.6" (1,947 mm)

    Height: 74.8" (1,900 mm)

    Track, Frt/Rr: 65.6"/66.2"

    Bed Length: 5&#146; 8" (1,725 mm)

       (midgate expanded) &#150; 6&#146; 8" (2,026 mm)

       (expanded w/ tailgate down - minimum) - 8&#146; 11" (2,723 mm)


    xxxxxxxxxxEngine: 2.8L 1-4 Turbo Dieselxxxxxxxxxxxxx


    Part time 4x4; Manual 5-speed Trans.



    Front - Solid Axle w/ 5 bar links

    Single coil springs

    Rear - Solid Axle w/ 5 bar links

    Dual Coilover Springs

    Ground Clearance - 13.7" (348 mm)

    Front/Rear Tire Size: 265/75R18"

    Wheel Size: 18" x 8"

    I can honestly say that if it was available now, there'd be one in my driveway!
  • I'm looking at purchasing an 05 Rubicon, any pro's and con's on these? Are they worth the money?
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    Don't think you'll find many people dissing the Rubicon here.


    How about some more specific questions. Are you wondering about the vehicle in general, or are you thinking of it in comparison to other Wrangler models?
  • Thanks Paul for the advice on steps. I did a little more research and came across a guy that was unhappy that the suggested bars could not support the weight of the jeep. Beyond my needs, so that did not discourage. I ordered the bars. Will let you know how they work-out. Another one: my daughter is 5'5'', and sits low. I have seen the aluminum seat lift kits available for sale. Any thoughts on those? Also seen plastic versions.
  • div2div2 Posts: 2,580
    I would DEFINITELY buy a Gladiator. I showed it to my wife a couple of weeks ago and she even liked it-and she usually hates pickup trucks!
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591


    Welcome to this board.


    Sounds like you are just in your initial stages of thinkin' Jeep, right? You are considering it along with some other vehicles?


    Have you ever owned a short wheel base Jeep? They are unlike any other vehicle, and you have to be a "Jeep person" to like them. There are sacrifices to be made in terms of room, comfort, and fuel economy compared to other vehicels when you own a Wrangler. The regulars here would all say the sacrifices are well worth it for the pure fun that a Jeep brings into your life.


    Test drive, read old posts, give it some more thought, then some more specific questions might come to mind. We would all love to "talk Jeep" with you, so you won't have any problem in getting your questions answered here. Ask away!


    Oh, the Rubicon is loaded with features that make it more capable offroad. It's up to you whether or not you need those features or want those features. For most people's offroading, the standard Wrangler does fine.


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