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Jeep Wrangler



  • embeedueceembeeduece Posts: 260
    I don't have kids, but if I did I'd invest in one of these:

    It'd work, right?


  • letdolphinletdolphin Posts: 37
    Hi Guys

    I am having difficulties finding where I can get details on the removal of the dash. Any clues where I can find this data??

    I am trying to install an IPOD car stereo interface, and need to get to the back of the stereo ... so if there is easier way I am open for suggestions.

    Thanks so much
    Laura :)
  • jimlw2jimlw2 Posts: 122
    Hi Rockymount3...Super congrats on your new Unlimited...Man, I've had mine for three weeks this Friday and I still go to one of the windows here at work every few hours just to look at her!

    A booster seat with a high-back works just fine for my almost 7 yo and 4 yo in the back of my Unlimited. That space between the rear of the back seat and the back window is exactly why I finally jumped on the Unlimited, too. I feel better knowing my kids' heads are a few more inches away from that window in case of a rear-ender. For booster seats, I have two, identical Britax booster seats with backs that adjust upward to remain above the back of their heads. The booster seats are rated for up to 90lbs.

    Enjoy that Unlimited and post some photos if you can.

  • redrocker15redrocker15 Posts: 102
    Here's a link that seems pretty good. Let us know if you need more info. It's pretty straightforward in my experience, also.
  • jimlw2jimlw2 Posts: 122
    Hey Gang - Thought I'd share a quick story...

    The family and I took the Jeep out last Saturday morning to get some breakfast at a local Tim Horton's in town to celebrate my 6 yo's last day of 1st the day before and moving into 2nd grade come Fall. The weather until today has been very muggy and hot. I took all the windows off the Jeep and left the softtop up for some shade from the already intense Sun. My wife drove the Jeep for the first time since getting her (getting the Jeep that is, not my wife :D ). My wife just smiled and enjoyed the power of the 4.0L and the commanding feel of being up so high. She liked how easily it turned, too. The kids in the back and myself in the passenger seat just sat back and relaxed with the wind blowing across us. We experienced and felt the world going by as if we were actually a part of it all rather than sealed up inside a glass bottle looking out as is the norm in a regular vehicle.

    After parking in the parking lot and taking a few glances backward as we walk away from Jeep (at least that's what I can't seem to resist), we walk up to the counter at Tim Horton's. Another patron at the counter, a lady with two young girls, looks over at us and says "Hey, girls, there's that smiling family we always see going around town in that white Jeep!". Her young girls looked at us like we were movie stars and were ready to ask for autographs! The nice lady goes on to say that it's not every day they see two kids in the back of a wide-open Jeep smiling from ear-to-ear just for doing a plain-old drive through town and that they're getting to know its us going by before we even get close enough to know for sure since there's not alot of white Jeeps in the area. We gave our thanks and went on to say how much we're loving that Jeep and how we'd recommend it to everyone!

    My kids were amazed that they were considered local "stars" and seem to be getting "known" by the folks around town as the "smiling kids in the white Jeep".

    Excuse me now as I put on my sunglasses and give the "little" people a thrill as I drive home in my cool white Jeep...come to think of it, Jeeps truly are natural "Rock" Stars", eh? :shades:
  • letdolphinletdolphin Posts: 37

    Thanks so much, I have searched Google all day and must not have been putting in the right combination of words. Well tomorrow after work I will attempt the connection. Hopefully all goes well :)

  • steverstever Posts: 52,683
    Nice story about the Jeep Kids.

    But what I really want to know is what kind of donuts did you get?

    That reminds me - there's an All Member Chat live starting in about 45 minutes. The link is on the left. We talk cars, but often get sidetracked on food.

    Steve, Host
  • koolbreeze2koolbreeze2 Posts: 252
    Tom, great shirt. What rims are you running on Thelma Jane? John Hey Keats, I picked up some of the microfiber towels and they are the best towel I have ever used. Nice pics of your Jeep. Thanks, John
  • redrocker15redrocker15 Posts: 102
    Jim- kudos on the great story! I saw the "Tim Horton's" and knew you were a Michigander since I've spent so much time up there. Kids (especially) are drawn to Jeeps; it's fun to see the recognition and admiration on little faces in parking lots around my own town. And lots of times, these are little kids sitting in Lexi and Beamers. Not that I have anything against these vehicles, but they're just not Jeeps. I guess maybe Jeeps are just so much easier to identify, and identify with! Kids equate them with fun. (Hmmmmm......Tom, Mac, Mtngal......I guess lots of us do that!)

    I've mentioned before that my own two sons thought it was cool that a corporate Dad could have a Wrangler; they've enjoyed it every much as my dogs have. My wife tends to see a noisy, impractical brick of a vehicle. Still, she cheerfully acknowledges that while she doesn't "get it", it must be some sort of cult! I guess they're right when they say, "It's a Jeep thing, you wouldn't understand....."

    Kind of like my oldest son and Texas A&M. Terry (wheelsdown) will understand this: "From the outside looking in, you can't understand.....from the inside looking out, you can't explain"

    Maybe I should make that my tag - like Tom's Jeep hugging! Help me with the wording, Terry!

  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591

    Thanks. That shirt was from my daughter and wife for not smoking for over a year.

    I run American Racing 15 x 8 AR767 wheels with 4" backspacing. Those wheels are just about as cheap as it gets. They have come up some, but I think you can still get them for under $50 apiece.


    Have you hugged your Jeep today/
  • rankinhubrankinhub Posts: 19
    Thanks! Yes, I was aware of the diamond plate option... that's the one I'd like to get as well for my Unlimited Rubi. Also enjoy your pics... very sharp... I'm partial to the khaki color scheme as that's the one I have too. Thanks again for the advice.
  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    There aren't all that many vehicles that have such a passionate following, but the Wrangler is definitely one of them. My husband still doesn't quite believe that we followed my heart and bought a second Wrangler this time around. And I'm the first person to admit that a Wrangler, no matter which flavor it is, isn't a practical means of transportation. It's all about fun, not practicality.

    I get lots of looks with my bright green Unlimited. I don't know if that's people thinking "what a neat looking car" or people thinking "what kind of fool would buy THAT color?" I don't care - I still love it!
  • wheelsdownwheelsdown Posts: 250

    I like the simple version-

    If I have to explain it, you will never know

  • koolbreeze2koolbreeze2 Posts: 252
    Mtngal, I love your attitude per the color of your Unlimited. Most people don't take a chance, they don't do what makes them happy because of what others might think. Jeepers don't seem to have that problem. Has your husband started to come around to the "fun" of Jeeps? John
  • koolbreeze2koolbreeze2 Posts: 252
    Will they run on the stock 5.5" backspacing? Thanks , John
  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    My wonderful other half sort-of gets it. He had a good time at Camp Jeep last year and he enjoys the off-roading. I'm not so sure he's as enthusiastic about going top-down 'cause he's not the "wind in your hair" type (and he does have lots of hair, grey though it might be).
  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    koolbreeze, the backspacing is wheel dependent. The factory wheels are 5.5. Tom's are 4.5". That actually works to his benefit when offroading. The smaller backspacing pushes his tires out just enough so they don't rub the suspension or inner fenders on full flex.

    The tires he has are 33x12.5" I think. That size WOULD fit on a factory 15x8 wheel, but you would need spacers to push them out to effectively get 4.5" of backspacing. You can run a 31x10.5 on the stock wheels without having to do any changes (spacers, new wheels, etc).

  • davids1davids1 Posts: 411
    Morning all:

    My 95 Wrangler is driving me nuts! Or maybe I'm driving it nuts.


    Driver side marker light is giving me problems. When I turn on the head lights it comes on. When I turn on the left flasher it goes out and does not work.

    I have changed numerous bulbs. I replaced the light socket as it appeared one of the contacts on the existing socket was broken. Once I did this, the front flasher (on the grill) did not work. I took it out and cleaned the socket with electronic parts cleaner and reinserted the bulb. It then started working.

    After the side marker socket replacement and cleaning of the front turn signal everything worked fine for about a week. Mesohappy!!! Yesterday it was back up to it's old tricks. Mesoticked!!!

    Mechanically I can handle most anything this vehicle can throw at me. Electrically I am stupid. What could be the problem here? I don't want to chase wires thru the entire vehicle if I don't have to. Is there a switch/relay/gizmo that controls these things that I can easily check? Could it possibly be the turn signal stalk?

    Thank you to anybody that can help!!

  • keatskeats Posts: 412
    I thought Tom was running 31s...
  • keatskeats Posts: 412
    Yesteday after lunch went to get in the Jeep and there were five guys standing around it talking about it. They had left the restaurant together just a moment before me. So I had a five minute question and answer session with them. The amazing thing is that this is fourth or fifth time something like that has happened since I bought it. Most men love Jeeps and kids adore them because they can readily identify them. What are the kids games in the car, Beep Jeep and Slug Bug?
  • keatskeats Posts: 412
    Do you have the Rubicon Unlimited Sahara? I love the khaki color too, was my first choice, seems a perfect color for a Jeep. The other color I always liked was the olive drab that the old Saharas used to come in. That was a really cool color. I'm surprised Jeep hasn't reintroduced it.

    So another topic for discussion is what are your 3 favorite current colors for a Jeep?
    Mine would be kihaki, silver and black.
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    I have changed numerous bulbs. I replaced the light socket as it appeared one of the contacts on the existing socket was broken. Once I did this, the front flasher (on the grill) did not work. I took it out and cleaned the socket with electronic parts cleaner and reinserted the bulb. It then started working.
    After the side marker socket replacement and cleaning of the front turn signal everything worked fine for about a week..............................................................................Is there a switch/relay/gizmo that controls these things that I can easily check? Could it possibly be the turn signal stalk?

    There's no reason that the problem should have suddenly jumped from the turn signal/side marker to the turn switch or one of the relays.

    Unless you want to be cleaning the turn signal on a regular basis you should consider replacing it. Also check the ground connections for those two lights.
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    For the record, the Old Tomster is running 31 x 10.50 tires on 15 X 8 AR 767 wheels that have 4" of backspacing.

    The widest tire that can be run on stock wheels with the 5.5" backspacing is 10.50". This combination puts the inside of the rear tires very close to the spring perches, and a tire that is any wider than 10.50" would rub those perches. Up front, the problem is rubbing on the control arms when the wheels are turned all the way left or right. It is so close with the 5.5" backspacing on the wheels and the 10.50" tires that some people have to install washers behind their steering stops because of slight rubbing. It varies from Jeep to Jeep. Some need the washers and some don't.

    If a guy wanted to stay with factory wheels and run a tire wider than 10.50", then he would need wheel spacers. These spacers go between the wheel and the hub and push the wheel outward from the frame.

    Wheel spacers are controversial items, with many people refusing to use them for safety reasons. Put me down for one who does not believe it is wise to use them. I'm not an authority on the subject, but the idea using those puppies just doesn't sit well with me.


    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    Thought you had 33s :)

  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    Well, after noticing some play in my new lift suspension, I crawled under the TJ last night with a flashlight to check the suspension in back. As I suspected, the C clips holding the OME shocks in place on the bar pin didn't stay in place. Instead of trying to put them back in and having them stay, I ordered some JKS Bar Pin Eliminators from Dirk Sanders at DPG Offroad. These can fit on OME shocks and will definitely keep them in place.


    It will actually give me a TINY bit more travel on the shocks as well when flexing... so I'm optimistic that it will solve the wiggle issues. Those blocks are certainly stronger than a tin c-clip!

  • davids1davids1 Posts: 411
    Ground sounds like a possible culprit. Is there somewhere out there that I can find the appropriate ground location(s). Remember, I am electrically stupid!!!!!

    Thank you
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    You can access the FSM online at AllData.

    I don't know if the marker lights and turn signals on a YJ ground through a separate wire, or through the body panel that they're attached to. If it's by the latter, consider adding ground wires from the light housing back to a good ground under the hood.
  • davids1davids1 Posts: 411
    What is the FSM?

    Thank you!
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    Factory Service Manual

    Click on the AllData link to find out more.
  • Hey Chris,
    General consensus is right about the stickers, but there was actually a package that many of the Sports had. Of course, this was prior to the Rubicon, but when the TJ was still fairly new you could order the 30" tire and wheel package (still available) and a Dana 44 rear axle (in place of the old Dana 35). These were options for people who did plan to use the Jeep a little more vigorously off-road. Check on your axle type and ratio. If your original owner also got the 44 with the bigger wheels, you just got lucky! Of course, these days all Rubicons have 44's front and rear, and Unlimiteds come with a 44 in the back. But it's still an option on the other trim levels (except SE). Current pricing would run $670 for the wheels and another $310 for the D44. If optioned this way, you might also have the 3.73 ratio, rather than the 3.07. Sounds like a really good find.
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