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  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    I don't qualify as a Nor-easterner, but I did have the Unlimited in Jackson last January, and we do get snow and cold weather up where we are (the temp this morning was actually below freezing, finally!). We didn't have much problem with the soft top last winter, or in Jackson. The heater works quite well down to about 0 F - after that, it seemed to struggle. Ice on the windows wasn't the problem I thought it would be, and I can't explain why. I was careful when brushing snow off and the plastic windows didn't seem to get all the ice on them that I had expected.
  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    I saw someone with a trailer-hitch mounted ski rack on the back of a Wrangler when I went skiing last summer (skis are held in a box vertically, rather than horizontally). I thought that was the most sensible way of doing it (my cross-country skis are short enough to fit in the back, so I haven't bothered with a rack).
  • div2div2 Posts: 2,580
    Well, since my 1999 Sahara is a Daimler Chrysler product, I try to keep it ALL German. Which is why I fitted Hella E-Code headlamps, MB Quart speakers, and Bilstein shocks. :P
  • goducks1goducks1 Posts: 432
    Definitely a problem for me too as a surfer. It'd be worse if I longboarded but I can fit a shortboard in the passenger side by reclining the seat and putting the tail down in the footwell, as long as the board is under 6'7" or so. Not sure how long your skis are though.
  • Well, I'm from Canada, so I definitely qualify as someone well-seasoned and experienced to the cold! ;)

    It's been cold here in the mornings lately, and my soft top is holding up fine (97 tj), though I should point out that the top is only a few months old (not that that should have any significance). The heater warms the car in under five minutes--I really don't notice the Jeep being any colder than my parent's (I van or car.

    Before owning my Jeep, I owned a 'poor man's jeep' aka chevy tracker with a soft top. I used it for four winters without any trouble whatsoever--also, no frost or ice on windows, which I agree is rather mysterious...

    I plan on my soft top to last many winters up here in Canada without any major inconvenience. My personal experience tells me that I have little to worry about.

  • 99tj99tj Posts: 187
    Although I'm sure I'd get by fine with my soft top, I really like having the hard top on in the winter time. It's just a nice change to have real side and rear windows. Not to mention rear defrost and wiper. I have an older soft top, so the hard top is quite a bit quieter too.

    Did you notice the weather people get to say "Nor'easter" already. (there's one moving toward the northeast) I think they look forward to saying that all summer and fall. :D

  • Greetings Mtngal, my backcountry Telmarks are awkwardly long for a hitch mount rack. I used to ski over at Mt. Pinos near your area. I got a hitch mount bike rack?Anyway the Thule system worked great today, minimal noise, no damage to the hardtop rain gutters, and easy to install and remove, So I don't have to return it to REI. Anyway I removed it after driving with it today, I only plan to use it probably four times this winter for skiing.
  • My downhill skis are 180 cm and the Xcountry Telmarks are 220cm. I think it is shorter than your 6'7" surfboard. Anyway the thule system I bought worked okay today, easy to install and remove, and did not damage the rain gutters of the hardtop. You just have to be very careful in the installation. Removal is a snap. The Thule website says you can mount surfboards on its racks on a Jeep Wrangler, I think that is the maximum, anything heavier will damage the rain gutters.
  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    I sure wish we would have some snow - while I had a lovely time hiking all over Mt. Pinos last weekend, I sure wish I could snowshoe or ski over it. Come to think of it, I didn't try to get my skis into the Sport - just the Unlimited last year, so I don't know that they would fit in it. However, they are just regular cross-country ones, not telemarks, and I'm not very big so they are pretty short as skis go.
  • I put the top down at 5am this morning for drive to work 23 miles .......44 outside probably 35 windchill at 70mph......this afternoon is supposed to be nice at 80 degress. Figured i could take a little face and ear freezing to get in a nice top down afternoon after leaving work. This will probably be the last before spring as a cold front hits putting the high in the low 50's and 30's for the lows of the day plus rain for next week.

    Well hope all the celebrate Thanksgiving have a good one.....take Care......Jeff/Dallas, Texas
  • Is that Jackson Wyoming? Oh how i love that place....been there 6 years in a row......thinking of making a winter trip up this time...dont know though would really like to take a snowmobile trip through Yellowstone.......
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,059
    dont know though would really like to take a snowmobile trip through Yellowstone.......

    You can easily do both. Yellowstone is just over an hour's drive from Jackson.

    tidester, host
  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    Yes - that was Jackson, Wyoming. I was there for a week this fall, too (I have family who lives sort of near there). We didn't see much this last trip - I spent most of it helping to clean out a garage. My hubby got real familiar with the local landfill and several thrift stores in town!

    There are outfitters who do snowmobile day trips that go from Jackson into Yellowstone - I'd love to do that. They do other trips to other out-of-the-way places around Jackson. It's a great place to visit any time of the year, and our soft top Wrangler didn't have any problems getting around (we even had the OEM tires on then and didn't feel a need for chains). The "road" into where we were is dirt, and while there is someone who plows it, it was snow covered and occasionally icy while we were there in January.
  • Nice ya have someone that live close, I do not, :-( I rented a wrangler last time i was there and took that offroad trail just to the east of the Tetons but west of Snake was about 17 miles long. There was only two places were yould would need a 4x4 but just to have the top down sitting with the snake on one side and the tetons on the other and seeing several eagles it was increadible....if i won the lotto thats where im
  • Mtngal, 99tj and barn 69, I appreciate your responses. Should be an interesting winter. I was in the Berkshires (Mass. ) yesterday and came thru 4" of snow and then freezing rain. The new tires had their test and passed with flying colors. Go Easy, John
  • Just wanted to say Happy Thanksgiving and God bless you guy's!

  • Last night when checking the fuse and starting my 98 it sparked. I tried 3 times and it kept blowing the fuses. I found out this morning it's the computer, even after replacing the ignition key. What's up with that? Anyone ever had this problem. I've had my share eventhough I love it :blush: , thinking I should just sell, only has 60,000 miles.
  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    Happy Thanksgiving to everyone!

    Drive those Wranglers safely over the long weekend!

    One last thing about soft tops and hard tops in the winter. I only have the soft top on my Unlimited, so I don't have a choice about tops. It's not a big deal to go throught the winter with it on at all. However, if I had dual tops, I'd be putting the hard top on for the winter, especially if I had no plans to go somewhere I would want the top down. Not having to deal with the soft top's back window bar would be worth the aggrevation of putting the hard top on.
  • Happy Thanksgiving!

    Hearing all you guys talk about winter, I'm thankful for L.A. weather.

    -Mike :shades:
  • I sometimes wished I bought the Unlimited instead with automatic transmission. I think we won't be getting snow until late December. I now live in Moreno Valley, too far from Mt. Pinos, I have to settle for Green Valley Lake in San Bernardino for X-country, and the snow pack is not deep like in Mt. Pinos. I found a new use for my Telmarks, I use them while pulling my daughter on a sled on the local trails. I think the Unlimited will become a classic like the CJ-8. Only a 2 1/2 year production until the new 4 door comes out middle of next year.
  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    Well, I just learned something - I always thought that Mt. Pinos was the only place for X-country skiing in SoCal. My first X-country experience was at Bear Valley in the Sierras - lovely groomed trails, etc. Nothing like that up here.

    Moreno Valley is warmer than up here - there are a couple of guys at work who live there and commute every day to West LA.

    We started driving the Unlimited this week, after driving the Sport for the last couple of months. Usually when I go from a manual to an auto I reach for the clutch. This time I kept reaching for the shift. I don't know if I prefer it or not - the Sport really is more fun to drive. And the Unlimited's gas mileage hasn't improved at all (sigh).
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    My friends, I have a new Jeep Buddy. His name is Hank, and he came from the same Humane Society animal shelter that Ross Allen came from. I picked him up Tuesday late afternoon.

    No dog will EVER replace my Rossie Pup. I will grieve for Ross until the day I die. He was a once in a lifetime doggy, and I don't expect any other dog to ever mean as much to me as he did. We were truly soulmates.

    I know that I will come to love Hank, and that love has already started to grow. He won't take Ross's place in my heart, but he will have a place of his own.

    I took him Jeepin' yesterday, and he was VERY good. I think he enjoyed it. I believe I have myself a good Jeep Dog!

    I still thought about Ross and cried a couple times, though, because Jeepin' was OUR thing. Ross was with me the first time I ever went off road, and he was with me all but three times that I can think of out of all the times that I have been wheelin', which must be at least two hundred times.

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?

    For those who have not seen Ross Allen's website, here's the link.

    Here are a some pics of Hank. He's with my little granddaughter, Payton, in the first one.


    Hank's just chillin' on Thelma Jane's passenger seat in this one.


    Hank hung in there with me when the left side tires slipped down into the middle of the gully and Thelma Jane was leaned over pretty good.


  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    I'm going to let Hank be Hank. He does not have to live in Ross Allen's shadow. I'll accept and love Hank for who he is.

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • Tom,

    Congratulations on your new Jeep buddy! :)

    I was thinking about you on Thanksgiving day, wondering if a new puppy would be in your future. I'm happy to see pictures of you and Hank - especially wheeling!

    History doesn't change, but we do well to remember it. The future is unknown, yet we yearn for it. Today, however, we live both.

  • Tom,

    Good to hear from you again, and especially good to see your new Jeep bud! You sure do have a knack for picking out beautiful shotgun riders!

    I'm sure Ross Allen is looking down fondly at your new friend, and if he could, he would be telling Hank all the great things about wheelin' and how to enjoy Turkey Bay (and warning him of the temptations of McDonald's ;).

    I hope you have many, many years of fun and companionsip with your new pup!


    PS: No sign of fear as Hank looks straight down at the ground as Thelma Jane shifts 90 degrees--he's gonna make a good Jeep dog, no question!
  • jeepemjeepem Posts: 10
    I'm finally back into looking at Unlimiteds, the local dealer has exactly the one I want, with the only exception of missing the security group.

    Is the security group worth worrying about (auto dimming mirror, sentry key..) or should I forget about it and look into after-market mirrors.

    Also, is this usually the best time to lease a Jeep? It seems like the winter gives you more rebates than spring/summer. (except year-end).

    Last thing (i think), is having an automatic really that much better & easier than manual. I would think the manual would be more fun, but am afraid that it would get old fast, and then wish I had gotten the auto...

    If I can think of any more ?, I'll post them, just want to make sure I get what I want.

  • Congrats Tom!!! Hank looks like a good dog. Seems to have good balance when Jeepin'. Have fun with your new buddy. Go fur it. John
  • Auto or manual is a personal choice. I like the manual but get what makes you happy. Go Easy, John
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591

    You currently have a short wheelbase TJ, right?

    The sentry key is supposed to be a VERY good theft deterrent. Mike, a member out in LA who has not posted in a long time, experienced two attemtped thefts of his Jeep, and Sentry Key prevented the theft each time.

    Not sure if Sentry Key would be something the dealer could install or not. If so, you could make that part of your deal, along with the mirror as well.

    That manual vs auto thing is strictly personal preference. It would depend a lot on your driving conditions, I suppose. I think it might get pretty tiresome dealing with the clutch in stop and go driving, like in a big city.

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    The mirror is one of those things that you never miss until you have one, then you can't imagine life without it. However, it's an easy aftermarket add-on.

    However, the Sentry Key is a different matter. It's a very effective theft prevention device which is virtually impossible to bypass out on the street. It will often get you a discount on your insurance as well. It can be retro-fitted by a dealer, but it's expensive in both parts and labor.

    Manual vs Auto is a purely personal thing, with the very long list of pros and cons about equal.

    Finally, for the last few years no logic can be applied to the discounts available on new vehicles. Just get the best deal available at the time you want to buy.
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