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  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    I'd go against the grain of mac and Tom on this. I'd opt for an 06. Here's a few reasons why:

    1. 4.0 engine is darn near bulletproof and a proven engine. The V6 is okay, and you can probably do things to it to make it more of a performer, but I'm not into those kinds of engine mods.
    2. TJ's have a HUGE aftermarket base at THIS time and those parts are a LOT cheaper than comparable JK parts at THIS TIME. That may change as the JK is out longer, but for now, the TJ is still a LOT cheaper to mod/upgrade.
    3. JK's (08+) have a tire pressure system that will drive you nuts if you airdown offroad. 07's don't have it or it works differently.

    IMO, if you're going to wheel it, a TJ will be easier/cheaper to fix/maintain than a new JK. I sure wouldn't wanna flop a new JK (I have flopped a TJ).

    Now depending on your usage, that could be different. The JK axles are generally stronger than the TJ's D44's. The JK is more streetable than the TJ (more comfortable). But if you're going to wheel it, a TJ is a better way to go (and easier to fix).

    Just go with the soft top only. The freedom top is a pain from what I've read about it.

    In making your decision, you can't go wrong with either, but each has their strengths, depending on what YOU want.

  • Thanks, Tom. I'll continue to lurk around here. And I'm giving my Jeep a BIG hug before she's gone for good.

    Thanks, Paul, as well. I know Audi's maint can be crazy, so yeah, I had her checked thoroughly and folded a warranty into the loan. She's an '05 A4 Quattro w/ 6spd manual.

    Never posted a pic of the Jeep before; trying now. If successful, it's her in Joshua Tree National Park.

  • Recently i've been having problems getting my soft top on and off. I believe the bars are bent to the point where it is ripping my top. Does anyone know a way to fix the bars so they no longer put so much pressure on the top? Also if that can't be fixed, can you just buy the hardware for the soft top, and where is a good place to do so?
    Thank you
  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    Have you hit anything or laid the Jeep over to cause any kind of bend? Have you been raising or lowering your top in the cold?

    It is ALMOST a fine art to getting the TJ top up and down smoothly. I don't mess with it but twice a year - once in the spring to take the top off and run the safari, and once in the fall to put the soft top back on. During that time, the soft top is totally off - hardware and all.

    But there is a process that I find works. But I would like to know if you have done anything to the soft top hardware (bows/frame) that would put any kind of stress on the top. Properly fit, it IS tight, but the cold does NOT help at all.

  • I haven't hit anything or laid the jeep over. I do take it on and off several times in the summer and spring. I also have put it up when it was chilly, around 50-55 degrees. I found a website that just sells the hardware, so i might just fix the top and buy new hardware. How well does the safari top protect from rain??
    Thank you
  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    It does pretty well but there is a gap between where the door surrounds turn down and the cage so water can get in there, but it's not bad. I'm lining my interior this summer and all carpet is coming out. I run a duster in back and occasionally a windjammer, but Bestop's Halftop setup is much better and eliminates those gaps quite well. If I were buying something now, it'd be one of those.

    Do you have pics of where the top is ripping? It sounds more like a procedural issue when putting the top up or perhaps even down.

    Here's how I've done it with no problems.
    Taking top down:
    1. Remove rear window and side windows.
    2. Undo plastic clips in door surrounds.
    3. Undo latches in windshield frame, but do NOT totally undo yet.
    4. Go to rear of tub and press down slightly on rear bow and remove corner pieces from tub.
    5. Finish unclamping windshield area and fold back slowly. As you get close to it laying flat, be sure to fold the plastic door surround clip things inwards. If you don't, you run the risk of them tearing out.

    Putting top up. See steps above.
    1. Unfold up to windshield frame.
    2. Insert windshield frame clamps but do NOT clamp em down.
    3. Press down on rear bow and insert rear corners into tub.
    4. Ensure plastic clips are not being pinched between soft top frame and door surrounds.
    5. Ensure middle bow is resting on rest of frame (you'll see what I mean if you look at your soft top up from inside by the cage hoop).
    6. Clamp down windshield frame.
    7. Insert FRONT clips into door surrounds.
    8. Insert rear window
    9. Insert side windows. Having the second clip unhooked at this point, makes it a LOT easier to start the zippers.
    10. Insert rearmost plastic clip into door surrounds.


  • i have a 94 jeep wrangler sahara with the exact modifications as you except i have a 3in lift. But i put a flo masters 40 series exaust on mine and it adds some "texture". Its only a deep tone, but from what i herd its the best quality out there.
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 12,245
    North-Central Kentucky received @5" of snow and 1" of ice over the past two days, dropping fifteen or so trees across the road to our house. Thanks to the Lord and Jeep engineers we were able to bypass all but two of the trees by cutting across a snowy/icy/muddy cornfield in our trusty 1999 Sahara. Our power was off for about fourteen hours so the Jeep allowed us to reach civilization and obtain hot coffee and Mexican food for lunch. Yes Tom, I hugged my Jeep today!

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2014 M235i; 2009 Cooper Clubman; 1999 Wrangler; 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i

  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591
    Hey, didn't know that you were in KY. Well, if I knew it, I forgot it.

    Over here in western KY we have it much worse. My power has been off since 3:00 AM last Tuesday! Tomorrow morning will make one week! I think I heard that we had 2" of ice.

    There is not one single full grown tree that I have seen ANYWHERE around here that does not have some of the major upper limbs broken off.

    I'm at work now in Madisonville, and we got our power back here just yesterday.

    Glad you hugged your Jeep, but have you hugged it TODAY? :)

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 12,245
    I hope you get your power back soon; I had to take my son to school and then [email protected] miles in the other direction to the job that I'm working this week. Despite more snow and fairly slick roads my TJ handled it with no drama.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2014 M235i; 2009 Cooper Clubman; 1999 Wrangler; 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i

  • In 1989 I bought a new Wrangler but later sold it because the woman who gave birth to my child didn't like to shift gears (years later she brought home a 5 speed Saturn). This year I got back at her and bought a 2006 Wrangler for my birthday. My question is, did Wranglers get smaller? It sure seems like my old 1989 was bigger on the inside than this 2006.
  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    I don't think they got smaller, but the dash configuration changes may make it feel that way.

  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    It sure seems like my old 1989 was bigger on the inside than this 2006.

    I guess it's possible you might have grown since 1989...........I know I have! :blush:
  • Yeah last wrangler was a 2003 Sahara. A while back I got a 07 Wrangler X.
    The sad thing is the interior is a tad larger, but I still felt like I was sittin' in a Crosley.
    Wrangler interiors don't grow at the same rate old Navy Chiefs do.

    Happy Jeepin'
    Chief DO remember Crosleys, right?
    : :
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910 DO remember Crosleys, right?

    I never owned one but you still see them occasionally. Many different body styles that all looked like a miniature version of something else, from a British sports car, to a delivery truck, to a Jeep.

    Here's a couple pics of the Jeep look-alike called a Farm Off Road or FOR.
    Look in the background of the red one to see how small they really were compared to the people there.



    For a nostalgic look at many more of the same and different body styles click HERE
    then click on the link at the bottom of each page to see more.
  • My ECTED gave out and auburn is cool and replacing it. The only problem is the shop who did it for me before wants to charge me out know where to replace it.

    I am experienced with replacing axles and all sorts of engine repair, my question is does anyone have a link helping set the gears so i don't burn them out. My clubs board talks about how i need to buy an OX or Detroit (yes i know they are great but this price is right!!!) , so i am coming here lol.

    Any help would be appreciated....Thanks!!

    Axle- Front Dana 30 w/4.10 ratio

    Any other info need let me know!!
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    I am experienced with replacing axles and all sorts of engine repair, my question is does anyone have a link helping set the gears so i don't burn them out.

    Go here: ALLDATA, to get twelve months access to the Factory Service Manual (FSM) for $26.95.
    It contains very specific and detailed information on how to do the job.

    You can also download a very good generic installation guide here: YUKON, that has some excellent illustrations of what the gear mesh patterns should look like.

    Personally, I'd go for an ECTED every time over an OX, Detroit, or ARB. ;)
  • I recently purchases a 2007 Wrangler X and don't particularly like the gap between the tires and the fender flares. I am simply looking for tires and wheels that will fill that gap without a lift. Any suggestions (sizes, brand, etc.)?


    A. J.
  • Its nice to see the old jeep faces on here along with some new ones. Its been right at 2 years since i sold my 2005 rubi unlimited due to financial reason from a health issue. Things are slowly getting better for me..I have whats called TMJ which was caused by an auto accident years ago but now in my 40's really walloped me one. Ive had to get braces for my teeth to try and straighten out my bite as my jaw alignment is off which has effected my chewing muscles which in turn has irritated that nerves in my face...causing pain and dizziness...yeah its stinks...but still kickin....Anyway...its been hard these past 2 years seeing all these wranglers out and about and wanting to give the jeep wave...Heck on the way to the office today to play catch up there were 3 with tops off as its in the low 80's right now....darn...i miss my wrangler...if/when this tmj stuff gets better im heading straight to my local jeep dealer as i want a bright blue sierra unlimited....well cheers...hope everyone is doing good.......
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,059
    Welcome back, Jeff! TMJ can be pretty much of a nightmare (I'm not saying anything you don't already know). I hope the treatment helps and looking forward to your getting the wave back!

    Good luck.

    tidester, host
    SUVs and Smart Shopper
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    Hi Jeff,
    I understand what you mean, as it only needs a fresh filling that hasn't been shaped properly to completely throw off the alignment of your teeth as you chew, which can be really irritating. What TMJ is to a lumpy filling sounds like what pneumonia is to a sniffle.

    Good luck with getting things fixed, and keep some brochures around. A picture on a screen doesn't hold a candle to the feel and smell of a glossy brochure.
  • steverstever Posts: 52,462
    Deal Of The Week - Jeep Wrangler (Edmunds Daily)

    "Last month, Jeep sold 9,088 Wranglers. That was actually an increase of 2,000 over last year."

  • Any significant differences in a 95, a 2000 and a 2002? All have about same mileage (80-90K and a 2002 with 44K).

    Thanks in advance!
  • mac24mac24 Posts: 3,910
    Any significant differences in a 95, a 2000 and a 2002? All have about same mileage (80-90K and a 2002 with 44K).

    Between a '95 and an '00,'s a totally different vehicle.
    Between an '00 and an '02, very little.
  • Between a '95 and an '00,'s a totally different vehicle.

    I assume it's a good thing?
  • tracy3999tracy3999 Posts: 10
    I have not taken my doors off my jeep yet!! The reason why is that im not sure how!! Do i need a special tool ? If you can give me some directions i would love it.. Thank you..
  • mgarviemgarvie Posts: 17
    Did Jeep make half steel doors for the 06 Wrangler Sport? If not, are there any other years that will fit?

  • mgarviemgarvie Posts: 17
    Give a little squirt of WD40 to loosen the post through hinge.

    Gently remove the nut at the bottom of the post with a 13mm wrench (at least my year is 13mm).

    Lift the door up without chipping the paint.

    Then wonder where you're gonna put then. Mine are sitting in the way in the garage for everyone to trip over.
  • tsjaytsjay Posts: 4,591

    Short wheel base Jeeps were designated as YJ's from '87 thru '95. They are the Jeeps with the "square" headlights. They have leaf springs all the way around and do not ride nearly as smoothly as the TJ's ('97 - '06) or the JK's ('07 - '09), which have coil springs.

    YJs do not have the axle articulation in stock configuration that a stock TJ or a stock JK would have. YJ's can be modified to be killer trail rigs, but stock to stock, the TJ or the JK will out perform the YJ off road big time, because of that better articulation.

    There were no '96 models, as this was the transition year from the YJ to the TJ.

    I would stay with the 99 or later models, because I believe the 99s were the first ones with distributorless ignition.

    I don't know if you have any plans to offroad that Jeep, but, if so, then deftintely find one with the Dana 44 rear end (as opposed to the Dana 35). The Dana 44 is much stronger than the Dana 35 and will support the use of bigger tires and a locker better than will the Dana 35.

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    Yeah, what he said! ;)

    As for half doors.. I THINK the halfdoors for TJ's are interchangeable between 97and 06.

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