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Isuzu Trooper



  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    All the articles say that it will be larger than the Trooper. I'm thinking that it might be based on the Dmax but it could be extended in length. We'll see what happens.

  • ostazostaz Posts: 80
    I am getting a pair of Hella 550 for my truck (99s). I have a few questions:

    - How easy is it to break-out the plate in the factory cut-out?
    - Would I have to run a wire from the lights, through the fire wall. to the switch? (going thru a relay of course).
    - Do I have to drill to mount it?
    - What's a good material to fill around the lights in the cut-outs for a "factory" look.

    Thanks for the help
  • adticaadtica Posts: 4
    My company 2001 Trooper is scheduled to fade away tomorrow as I pick up my new fleet car. While I would have selected another trooper if available, I will be driving an Explorer XLT. The old trooper served me very well with 0 trips to the dealer since new. All that was done was oil changes and 1 tire rotation. It still has the factory tires at 65,000 miles with still more to go. Oil consumption was up to 1qt/1000miles.

    The good news is that my wife also drives a Trooper (02 LS)so I will always be able to enjoy my most favorite SUV. We hope to keep this one for many years as it currently has only 7,500 miles and an easy life.
  • sbcookesbcooke Posts: 2,297
    I haven't done it myself for the fogs (but am contemplating adding something on that circuit)...but the wiring is all there. People on this board have ordered the factory switch from St. Charles Isuzu. From what I have read, the switch mounts in one of the switch blanks to the left of the steering wheel next to the useless slot. All of the wiring is included.

    This is wired for fogs though, so the lights will only work with low beams. If you want to switch it to High beams or independent of what beam is activated you will have to do some wiring yourself.
  • OEM fog light switch: part # 8971355120
    relay: part # 8970939101
  • dmigeldmigel Posts: 15
    Just picked up a '02 S for $22,500. I had them add the 6-disc in dash changer (which I am truly amazed by. My only question is if it has a 'random play' feature where it would randomly play tracks off of all of the discs. Any input? Am I missing something?
  • bluedevilsbluedevils Posts: 2,554
    I'm not aware of a random play function on the Isuzu changer in my 98 Trooper. It's a pretty skip-resistant unit, but the sound quality is mediocre. Not sure how much blame goes to the CD player and how much to the speakers.
  • mpelmpel Posts: 23
    Can I take my 99S to a car wash and power wash the engine?!? We just got a second car and the engine is so clean and I wanted to treat my Trooper to a sparkling power plant too!!!
  • jimmyp1jimmyp1 Posts: 640

  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    my '00 engine, no problems afterward.

  • philbraphilbra Posts: 9
    This is based primarily on my past experience working in a bike shop and friends who are Trooper owners:

    1. The Yakima Ski Racks tend to be found on Dark Blue and Grey Troopers that were Isuzu-sponsored ski/snowboard vehicles and have surface rust under the body and quite a few door dings.

    2. The tower/rack combo over the doors has been suitable for surfboards over 9 feet and bikes, but it does look a little weird so far towards the front.

    3. Two customers purchased a full rack with a Yak fit-kit to give the complete rack 3 poles/tower sets for kayaks. This seemed to work fine, but involved added cost for the kit.

    4. The factory bolts have provided more than one person plenty of support/racks for kayaks and even a lenth-wise safari rack, but support for a load on the safari rack was always an issue.

    5. I've also seen a few Troopers with support brackets bolted to the roof with a good amount of silicone caulk and not leak, but I do not recommend this avenue.

    Hopes this adds input to the rack question.

    Since I am looking for a 99+ Trooper myself, I look forward to all postings for guidance.
  • sbcookesbcooke Posts: 2,297
    The position in the front is actually better than in the back. I just put my bike on my thule rack tonight and it easier to hoist it up top via the rear door. There are grab handles in the doorway so you can pull yourself upwith one hand and hoist the bike in the other.

    When I use my box carrier I also use the door frame to load stuff in and out of it. I need the ladder to get it on.

    Anyway, as far as position goes I find the frontward foot mount thule or yakima to be better for loading.
  • dmuzykadmuzyka Posts: 31
    I just had my Trooper in for it's 30,000 mile service (well, actually 37,000...) and I had left the oil cap off the other day (idiot) and asked the dealer if they could power wash the engine. The service advisor strongly recommended against that since a number of the electrical contact points and other mechanical-types words he tossed around are somewhat exposed towards the top. They did a really nice mop up for around $20.
  • dnestrdnestr Posts: 188
    Hi everybody. According to IT*99 owners manual, ATF Dexron II or III should be used in TOD transmission case.
    But some used trucks from United States (there are many 98-99 in Russia) have motor oil in TOD (it looks like 5W30 or 10W30). So, is it OK to use motor oil instead ATF by Isuzu US dealers?
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Don't use Motor oil in your TOD unit. Regular part-time transfer cases use Gear oil, but none I know of use motor oil.

  • sdc2sdc2 Posts: 780
    That could be mistake on somebodies part, due to the confusing way the owners manual is written. It took me awhile to figure out that the transfer case the owners manual was referring to was not the one on my TOD-equipped Trooper. If somebody didn't pick up on that distinction, I could very easily see somebody putting motor oil in the TOD transfer case.

    Simple way to figure it out:

    Manual tranny = regular transfer case = gear oil in the transfer case (motor oil in the tranny, I believe)

    Automatic tranny = TOD transfer case = ATF in the transfer case

    (This only applied for model years after the TOD unit came out...not sure when that was)
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    You could get part-time transfer case on the 2002 S model Troopers equipped with ATs.

  • boxtrooperboxtrooper Posts: 843
    The factory provided roof rack mounting points allow very secure mounting using the OverLander T100 brackets. IMHO the "roof rack mounting points" are leftover from where the factory robot was carrying the Trooper body through the manufacturing process before attaching it to the chassis, I think the mounting points are that strong. There are two 6mm nuts welded to the roof channel at each mounting point for 12 total 6mm nuts on the roof. The T100 brackets are hardenned steel 1/8 inch thick. They require a carbide drill bit if you want to make extra holes in them.
    I have Thule crossbars on all three sets of brackets so I can choose to put stuff on the roof forward or toward the rear. I have found that the easiest access for loading the roof rack is using the rear most possible location. This allows standing on top of the rear tires or on the rear bumper. (I have the 1995 Trooper-S which has non-painted bumper covers so I have no paint sratching worries from walking on it). I do carry a step ladder if I have a lot of stuff up there since with my feet so close in it is easy to lean back and loose balance.
  • dnestrdnestr Posts: 188
    Where is a control stick on automatic transmission unit? Does it exist there? or CHECK TRANS lamp shows if "low level". Just I purchased my Trooper a few days ago, don't have possibility to visit my dealer right now.
    I was surprised reading Adtica's message: 1gt/1000 miles (0,7L/1000 km) is too much for 65000 miles engine, isn't it, or I'm mistaken? What is the oil consumption U have usually? E.g. my old Toyota Prado (3,4 L gasoline engine, approx. 100000 miles) needs 0,2L/1000 miles on highway only.

    Thank U.

    - Alexey.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    I've seen 2-200lb guys up on top of the ARB roof rack plus gear and they are put into the OEM roof rack mounting points.

    So yep, they are strong.

  • boxtrooperboxtrooper Posts: 843
    If by "a control stick on automatic transmission" you are looking for a way to check the automatic transmission fluid level, there is no such "dip stick" device on 1992-2002 Trooper automatics.
    Oil consumption on most Troopers is like any other vehicle, very little or not even measurable oil consumption. But, some Troopers do consume oil even when at low miles. The standard response from Isuzu or GM or Ford or Chrysler etc.. for any vehicle is that "It is considered normal and acceptable oil consumption up to 1qt/1000miles". This is a sad but true fact.
    My 1984 Trooper consumed oil around 0.5qt/1000miles at 30000 miles and around 1qt/1000miles at 201000 miles. That little 1984 1.9L was "the little engine that could". It was trouble free except for the oil consumption.
    My 1995 Trooper 3.2L does not consume any measurable amount of oil in normal driving, but pulling a heavy trailer it will consume 0.5L/1000miles, maybe more than that. I check the oil often when towing. I have an oil pressure gage on the dash that I use to watch over the oil situation and my 3.2L engine is the one that has the lifter ticking problem if the oil gets low or dirty, so I think I would get plenty of warning of low oil if that were to happen.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Actually most of the 4L30Es that are in 92-02 Do have dipsticks. The 97->02 don't have dipsticks. Maybe some of the pre 97 don't either, but I know several 94 and 96 owners who do have them.

  • sdc2sdc2 Posts: 780
    I just added half a quart the other day, it was about 2,200 miles since the oil change, so it burned roughly 0.25 quarts in 1,000 miles. And I use 5W-30 Mobil One, which some people say will be burned faster than heavier weight non-synthetic...

    Alexey, I bet you are having "fun" trying to translate all these English units of measure into metric!
  • df2000df2000 Posts: 60
    "Don't use Motor oil in your TOD unit. Regular part-time transfer cases use Gear oil, but none I know of use motor oil"
    It is not correct t-case on 97 Rodeo 3.2l auto
    use 5w30 motor oil.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Hmm, interesting. Considering that I owned a '97 rodeo! In either case, you would not put gear/motor oil into a TOD unit.

  • dnestrdnestr Posts: 188
    Now I'm satisfied and I believe my Trooper will be a reliable SUV for several years. There is not AT's dipstick, means fluid level must be constant and no need to check it between service interval.
    However, there arn't (in Russia)official Isuzu sales any more since they stop to produce trooper. So sad. I do not consider Opel Frontera (European Rodeo) to be Isuzu because frontera has 2.0 or 2.2L opel engines and it purchased through opel dealers. Also Axiom and that SUV which has a strange name Ascender are for US market only as I know). All it means that genuine spare parts will get high prices,and an addition to this it will be problematic to have the qualified service in the future.
    Such a conception...
  • jrr2kjrr2k Posts: 35
    Philbra - IMHO the roof rack you put on your trooper depends alot on what you want to carry.
    For bikes and snowboards/skis, I'd look at the hitch mounted options. Alot of the new Thule hitch mount bike carriers can be transformed to ski carriers. Plus its nice and easy to load from the rear of the truck.
    If you want cargo or watersports, you have to go to the roof. The Thule / Yakima racks are cheapest to buy, have the most sport components, and are found everywhere. Unfortunately, they are supposed to be removed when not in use and can damage your vehicle (I have a Thule on the Subaru).
    The other option is the safari type rack. It is expensive, but mounts to your roof via the "lifting points". Japanese Isuzu Bighorns have roof rails that mount here, so they are load bearing.
    Tough choices...ideally Isuzu would import Bighorn roof rails for use on Troopers :) but that's not going to happen.
    Personally I will probably install the safari rack if I can be sure that Thule components (like fairings and a kayak carrier) will attach to the safari rack top crossbars.

    Anybody have a safari rack (like Surco) with Thule or Yakima components attached?
  • boxtrooperboxtrooper Posts: 843
    "Spare Me" rack by Thule fits on the spare tire mount. Has an option kit to fit skis too.
    hitch mount bike carriers will probably need to be used with a 2" hitch extender to clear the spare tire. The longer double connection means twice the wobble and the wobble distance is larger due to the longer reach.
    I will eventually need to carry up to 6 bikes. I will put two on the "Spare Me" and four on the roof. For now the smaller kids bikes can go inside, but they are growing fast.
    Bikes on the roof takes away 2mpg. The permanent mount expedition racks IMHO would also cost you at the gas pump.
  • boxtrooperboxtrooper Posts: 843
    My 1995 Trooper outperforms 1/2 ton Chevy Suburban in towing the same boat. As determined by the boat discussion and many compalints there by Suburban owners that they experience excessive sway problems while Trooper owners do not. Power Weight and Wheelbase are not everything. The Trooper is also more maneuverable when towing because of the smaller turning circle.
    Of course, as expected, the 3/4 ton Suburban tows much better than the Trooper.
  • mlevkmlevk Posts: 7
    Hi chporter, I hope you see this post.
    I have the SAME EXACT problem you described.
    Usually ,my 99 won't engage when it is hot ,
    intermitent cold or warm. It's driving me crazy.
    I brought it into the dealer for a clunking
    into 4WD when it was hot and they never could
    fix that problem so I haven't bother to bring this problem to them yet. I'd like to see if you
    can describe the fix , I'm a little confused on some parts. But let me try this weekend if the rain holds off.
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