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Isuzu Trooper



  • sbcookesbcooke Posts: 2,297
    The dealer thinks that they just forgot to tighten the gas cap? They said the only code was a 440...gross evap leak? Which is typically the gas cap. They pressurized and tested and said they cannot find anything wrong?

    I drove home and this time I didn't get a CEL 5 minutes after leaving...Ahhhh it is nice to drive my truck again. It will take a little time to get some confidence back to take it more than 10 miles from home. I think I will make a road trip somewhere this weekend.
  • tkevinblanctkevinblanc Posts: 356
    Are you missing a comma before the word bumper in your last post?

    That would be pretty outlandish of them to make that kind of an observation... :0)
  • tkevinblanctkevinblanc Posts: 356
    Boy. That really inspires confidence in that dealer, huh?

    I have heard that if you get a CEL, the very first thing you should check is your gas cap.
  • pinoy99pinoy99 Posts: 79
    Mine turned out to be code 440 as well which is EVAP Leak. The service manager mentioned that I might have started the truck prior to the gas cap being tightend after a fill up. Re-check of pcv valve also proved to be negative for blockage.
  • bigwesbigwes Posts: 7
    I got a CEL and the dealer said it was the gas cap. I asked him about it possibly being the IMG and he was like "not likely sir, we've seen this before". I left the truck there with him to clear the code and check it anyway. Three hours later, he calls me at work telling me I was right it's the IMG. Sometimes the human factor kicks in and if you don't push people to do jobs correctly, people will take the lazy route.
  • sbcookesbcooke Posts: 2,297
    that was the 2nd time I had to bring it back...I asked them to check the IMG and they said that it wasn't that for was my IAC Valve. I understand my dealer cannot fix something they can't find, however I think they are just bad.

    I asked my service rep..."do you think I would buy a car from here? Would you?" I got "I understand your frustration".
  • viktoria_rviktoria_r Posts: 103
    here is my problem: 00 Trooper S w/49K mi stalls at low RPMs, such as at the traffic light, going out of the driveway (and waiting for other cars to pass), even when idling in Park. Goes fine at higher speeds and rpms. Any thoughts? tx
  • jammingjamming Posts: 5
    I have a dark green '01 LS. A month ago the paint(same color) started peeling off the inside of the fender flares. Well, now it is creeping out to the outside of the flares. Anyone else getting this? Has Isuzu or a dealer been any help?
    The truck is barely 2 yrs old, with 31K, and I don't think the paint should be peeling!
  • sbcookesbcooke Posts: 2,297
    Well there could be several things. Something in the emissions could be fouled (EGR Valve? Fuel Pressure regulator, Idle air control valve) The intake manifold gasket could be blown? 1999 models are notorious for this, but maybe in an '00? Your battery or alternator could be having problems keeping voltage?

    I just had my IMG replaced and had the same symptoms. It took until I got a check engine light with the specific codes for the dealer to acknowledge it. It only took about 2 weeks from first symptom to being bad enough to register on the computer.

    Have you had a shop look at it?
  • viktoria_rviktoria_r Posts: 103
    We've already went thru 'check engine light' last year. Had smthg cracked in engine - they said it was manufacturing casting defect. maybe it was IMG - i am not good w/terminology - need to look up receipts. they replaced it (not the entire engine) under warranty. also had cylinder misfires and ensuing repair - smth. w/disrtibutor. The list is too long. How much ea of those (EGR,Fuel Pressure regulator, Idle air control valve) can cost? Will they fall under 'powertrain warranty'? they're charging us $370. actually they talked to my husband so I dont know what the official diagnosis is yet.

    this car was in that shop countless times, mostly with serious stuff. the also had GUTS to ask us if we'd want to buy another Trooper from them... this was last year... also the same crap about understanding our frustration. yeah, right. another POS Trooper. No wonder Isuzu is in deep .... !
  • tkevinblanctkevinblanc Posts: 356
    Sorry about your Trooper.

    However, statistically, the Trooper is an very reliable vehicle. As usual, your mileage may vary.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    That's quite common on most troopers with the flares, some have had dealers replace, most have not. Not sure what to tell yah on that.

  • breakorbreakor Posts: 398
    I think Sbcooke hit the likely suspects. Although with a rebuild they should have used newer intake manifold gaskets to solve that problem. Also, if it was your battery, by now with all the restarts I suspect it would have fully died.
    If you are the Viktoria that was posting here before you have absolutely the worst experience of any Trooper owner I have ever read about with your dealer and your Trooper.
    In any event here's wishing you good luck in the future.
  • viktoria_rviktoria_r Posts: 103
    that keeps having problems with out Trooper.

    results: they replaced spark plugs (I think this was unnecessary since per manual it supposed to have platinum spark plugs that should last up to 100K mi), also 'cleaned' 'carbon deposits' from EGR channel (?) and intake manifold (?). $370. I have a strong suspicion that above are neither the sources of the problem nor cleaning them will solve anything.
    2 years left to pay for POS.
  • amigo_johnamigo_john Posts: 107
    The Rodeo board is dead so I'm posting here. I'm looking for tires for my Amigo. Have 42k on the original Wrangler APs. I use this car for around town stuff and am looking for smooth riding highway tires (no jabs please). Am currently looking at:

    BF/Goodrich Open Trail T/A
    Michelin Cross Terrain
    Dunlop Rover T/A
    Continental Contitrac

    On another subject. Concerning dealers, I use Century Isuzu in Huntsville, AL. I have NEVER had a problem with warranty work and they roll out the red carpet every time I go there. They also service and sell Buicks, BMWs and Volvos. If it was Century Isuzu, Kia, Hyundai it might be a different story...
  • bstone3bstone3 Posts: 97
    How bout that - I live in Madison and bought my Trooper from Century Isuzu - agree with the red carpet treatment - although I only have been in once for a problem - suggest the Michelin all terrain - have never owned a bad Michelin anything and every time I put a set on a go wow! - worth the extra money
  • sbcookesbcooke Posts: 2,297
    I have the cross terrains on my MDX. They are very smooth quiet highway tires that handle fairly well in curves.
  • amigo_johnamigo_john Posts: 107
    I live in Madison too! Right off of Hughes rd. near AutoZone.

    I really would like to get the Michelins but will probably go for the BF/Goodrich Open Trail T/A. Sam's club has them for $80. The Michelins are at least $50 more :(

    What about Yokohama Geolanders? They seem reasonably priced. Any opinions on them?

    Heck, I might take the Bridgestones off my wife's Rodeo, put them on my car and get her the Michelins.

    I'm usually not a cheapskate on cars but with 3 kids, private school, dance lessons, Chuck-E-Cheeze, it adds up quick...
  • kmcgirlkmcgirl Posts: 8
    Hi all,

    I have a 2001 Trooper S. I love the keyless entry, but could do without some of the anti-theft features like: being unable to lock my doors with remote while a door is open without the alarm going off, or reaching inside an open window and pressing the door unlock buttons without the alarm going off.

    Does anyone know if I can disable the "alarm" part of this system but still leave the keyless entry features intact?

  • bstone3bstone3 Posts: 97
    Yea - I have been looking at the Geoplanders too. NTB quoted me $129 ea but I have found them on the internet for $97 265-70-16 not counting shipping. The reviews by owners of these tires have been great. I have not done this yet but the guys at Sam's club told me to go to their internet site and you can pick and order your tires from there - Sam's price should include mounting balancing road hazard and associated stems and such. I live off of Wall Triana by the way.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Simple, cut the wire to the alarm horn and you are good to go! Other than that I don't know of any way to disable it.

  • dmigeldmigel Posts: 15
    Ok. I want to hear what the masses have to say. I have scoured this forum and read everything having to do with hitches and bike racks. I have followed the majority and ordered a Hidden Hitch from JC Whitney. But I am still undecided on the bike rack. Some have referenced a Nashbar that should (hopefully) clear the back tire:( ory=1019&brand=&sku=6416&storetype=&estoreid=) for $100.

    I don't know too much about bike racks, logic tells me that racks with two arms would be more stable than one like the nashbar. Anybody able to vouch or recommend another?
  • tkevinblanctkevinblanc Posts: 356
    The more expensive racks might be kinder to your bike. But the expensive ones get up to $300 plus. I haven't had any trouble with my Nashbar (Saris) 4-position rack, but I don't use it more than once a month or so.

    A friend of mine uses a similar one from Valley on his Accura SVX, but with a spare tire cover installed, it won't fit on the Trooper.

    Dunno where you are, but if you are in the D.C. area, I'd be glad to let you try it on your vehicle.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    I'd go for one that mounts on my spare tire, the spare tire holder is VERY strong. I know guys who use this to get to their safari racks, they just climb up ontop of the spare tire. So It should hold your bikes no problem. This will eliminate the problem of having the door swing into your rack.

  • dmigeldmigel Posts: 15
    thanks for the offer, but I'm in St. Louis. Couple of questions though.
    On the Nashbar, did you need an extension bar?
    Are the bikes fairly stable on the one arm?
    Does it fold down without detaching allowing access to door?

    You are far more the adventurer than I. I think I will leave my spare cover on, although it is tempting, but I believe my '02 has a non-alloy spare.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    I keep my cover on as well, I did buy an alloy for mine to replace the steel wheel but still keep the cover on. Although when I was gonna use a bikerack I'd just remove the cover temporarily. I'd find swinging away a bikerack more annoying than not having a cover on the tire

  • dmigeldmigel Posts: 15
    Paisan, hmm. You have my attention. Never taken the tire cover off. how difficult? Have any recommendations for a tire mounted rack under $150?
  • boxtrooperboxtrooper Posts: 843
    I have this it works great, but the little nub that hold the tire up while you bolt it on has to be removed. Has anyone found a way to modify the Thule to add this feature?
  • tkevinblanctkevinblanc Posts: 356
    My rack does fit without an extension, but most do not. I got mine on close out from Bikes USA, but it's the same as the Nashbar three and four single strut racks.

    It's 2.5 inch square steel. It's more than strong enough.

    The bikes are fairly stable, but, like I said, a two point mount would probably be more stable.

    Yes, it does fold down, but loaded with four bikes, you couldn't do it.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Just knowing people stand on em, should be strong enough to support bikes.

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