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Nissan Pathfinder



  • BigOrange,
    No... I wasn't referring to A/T. I have A/T, but since I have an SE, the 4WD has a manual shifter beside the gear selector. I was in 4WD Hi mode, when I had the problem.
    I was on wet, non icy pavement when I had the steering problem, and I was traveling 5 mph into a parking space in a parking lot. I only needed for the first 5 minutes it when I was pulling out of a snowy parking spot on the street, then I decided to leave it in the 4WD mode, because the owners manual suggested using the 4WD occasionally to keep it operational.
  • li_sailorli_sailor Posts: 1,081
    IMO, your 4WD was acting normally. I never use 4WD on anything but snow/ice. Unless the wet pavement is quite slippery, it will not be enough to allow the different speeds of the wheels in a turn to be "unloaded" by slipping, especially at slow speeds...and you will then experience binding. This is not only noticable as a difficulty in turning (resistance) but it can also damage the transmission.

    If you want to "exercise" the 4WD beyond annual use in snow conditions, use it in a straight line for a short distance. Preferably, do it on gravel, or better yet, on mud. Of course, if you're on mud, you can turn all you could pretend you're off roading ;-)
  • crikeycrikey Posts: 1,041
    Not intending to muddy up the PF board with this, but here's a copy of that lawsuit filed regarding higher vehicle prices in US compared to Canada: Class action complaint for violations of the Sherman Antitrust Act
  • steverstever Posts: 52,572
    I couldn't get that link to work the other day and it's still broken on my box. I guess I'll just wait for my $2.00 coupon after the lawyers get their 9 gazillion in fees :-)

    Steve, Host
  • Just curious if anyone can fill me in on the differences between the 5.1 and 5.2 Nav CD software changes? If nothing too great then I'm going to pick up some used 5.1 revs for a few other areas. Any input is appreciated.
  • lofquistlofquist Posts: 281
    Thanks crikey, that lawsuit is fascinating reading (link works ok for me). It details out all the things we "heard" the manufacturers were starting to do to prevent car sales in Canada to US customers. I called a dealer just to chat and he said it's amazing the things the manufacturer is now doing to track every vehicle to ensure it's not ending up in the US. Time will tell what happens with the lawsuit.

    Thanks pathstar and phil47 for the slow window fix ideas. Yes, I do have the shop manual. It doesn't have a fabulous picure of the window mechanism, but I will sure try these things. Door panel should not be too hard to remove to scope things out.

  • I'm considering buying a 1996 PF SE 4x4, 5 speed with 145,000 miles for $5,500. Any mechanical or CORROSION problems that I need to be aware of?

    It's my sister's vehicle. I'm in Virginia, she is in New York. I called a local dealer and he said mechanically, not a problem. But, it's a "Northern Car". My sister says that the Pathfinder has no visible rust. I'm wondering if there is a trend of corrosion with this vehicle?

    Thanks in advance for any comments on this.


  • xplorx4xplorx4 Posts: 621
    Check the exhaust system for corrosion/deterioration. This means exhaust pipes, muffler, heat shields, hangers, etc.

    Check the upper engine compartment for obvious signs of corrosion. Some nuts and/or bolts may have significant corrosion which could make them harder to remove when/if service is required.

    Has the timing belt been changed? (105,000 miles is the change interval)

    Have the fluids been regularly changed (i.e. transfer case, differential, transmission)

    Have the front bearings ever been repacked?

    Check the condition of the rear suspension lower control arm bushings by driving the truck slowly, shifting into Neutral, and pulling the e-brake to stop. If the truck rocks back and forth noticeably after it has stopped, the bushings should be replaced. Worn bushings will cause unpredictably poor handling and could possibly result in an accident.

    Here's the TSB on the bushings: (you must copy the link and paste into a new window).
  • Hi xplorx4,

    Thanks for the advice in your message #6432. I'll be asking the above questions.


  • highuphighup Posts: 31
    01 LE 26K miles. It was all good till the morning drive to work today in beautiful downtown Dublin CA. At the busiest intersection with the longest red light in the world, my pathfinder started to stall. The "service engine soon" light came on and I could feel the rpms start to flutter downward and the tach concurred. Holy guacamole I thought, there's a line of cars and trucks behind me and no way can I push this beast to the side. I goosed the gas to bounce the rpms up a bit and finally got the green light. It started to buck into the intersection so I feathered it a bit and managed to make it through. I may have set a personal best for the longest held breath. The dealer just happened to be around the next corner and we limped in, barely. Ok, I'll cut to the chase. Problem was with the MAFS (Mass Air Flow Sensor). Apparently it broke and the part is on the way. The stalling started several months ago with about a 2-3 second duration each time. By the time I caught on to what was happening, it healed itself. The engine never died. I didn't think much of it then, but parts being parts, they sometimes fail. I post this to share my experience and hopefully save someone from passing out at an intersection.
  • wcl22wcl22 Posts: 2
    I just took my car to the Nissan dealer cause I was experiencing problems with the car accelerating. The engine sounds rough (not sure how else to describe) when accelerating. The Nissan dealer recommended servicing the fuel injection/throttle body and air-intake for $250. Is this too much? They also serviced my car for the 30K maintenance and replaced the fuel filter, but that did not solve the problem. I am not sure if this is related, but several times if I'm waiting at a light for too long, the car feels like it's about to stall, but then corrects itself. Has anyone else experienced this problem with their 2001 Pathfinder LE? Thanks in advance!
  • I need help guys. The gas pedal of my 2000 PF is hard to press down after the car came to a complete stop or sometime after I let go of the gas pedal to coast. I hope it's not a big problem to take care of. What do I need to do, loosen/tighten the accel. cable??? Thanks.
  • scantyscanty Posts: 171
    $250 for that service is outrageous. Call around to find a local shop that will do a complete fuel induction service with BG products. They are the class of the field, and the service should cost about half as much. Most dealers will simply put a $25 can of BG44K fuel system cleaner in your gas tank and be done with it.

    Link to BG:
  • uvdavaruvdavar Posts: 11
    Could some one please let me know of the post that documented how to purchase a Nissan in canada and bring it to the United States.

    Could some one also let me know if this can be done with the new Murano.
  • steverstever Posts: 52,572
    Try a "Search Discussion" for "Canada." You'll find lots of posts about this issue. The search box is at the top and bottom of the messages.

    Steve, Host
  • crikeycrikey Posts: 1,041
    You might want to check this post in the Edmund's Mazda RX8 message board.

    Right now, Canadian dealers will not sell a Canadian vehicle to a US resident due to manufacturer's new policies. Sorry...
  • shark715shark715 Posts: 382
    I've been following this Message Board on and off since buying an '01 PF about 2 1/2 years ago, and I recall from time to time people mentioning problems with their 6 disc CD changers, especially when using CD-R's. My new computer has a CD burner, and after all the comments I've seen here, I'm a bit apprehensive about using the CD-R's in my truck. I've been using the CD-R labeling kit made by Avery that they sell at Staples and Office Max, and given the extra thickness the label adds to each CD-R I'm even more concerned that the CD-R's might cause my changer to jam. So far I've never experienced a problem with my CD changer, and I don't want to cause a problem now since my truck is out of warranty. Has anyone been using CD-R's regularly with no problems? How about CD-R's with labels? My owners manual mentions on page 4-25 that CD-R's may not function properly in my changer, but it doesn't caution they will jam the changer. Thanks for your help in advance.
  • jiaminjiamin Posts: 556
    on my 02 QX4 can play CD-R and CD-RW with no problem. I never stick labels on but write something with markers.

    My 00 RX300 can only play CD-R but not CD-RW which causes "ERR1" message.
  • deebardacdeebardac Posts: 23
    For success use CD-R that have Digital Audio in the logo. They are more money but they work.
  • Hello M99,

    Have you been on the web site lately. They show a SR5 with the appearance package that includes color-keyed bumpers and over-fenders, black running boards, black roof-rack and fog lights.

    The trucks looks really nice. That is exactly what I would have wanted going back in October.

    While I'm happy with my Pathfinder I have to admit that this new appearance package on a SR5 would have had me reconsider my purchase decision.

    Imagine in black !!!!
  • rcigloorcigloo Posts: 5
    OK li_sailor,
    I think that I will only exercise the 4WD in the correct conditions. Thanks for the advice!
  • mjohnr99mjohnr99 Posts: 193
    Actually, once I knew they caved to the mass boycott and decided to do the appearance package (imagine having to now pay even more to avoid having an ugly plastic vehicle), I haven't looked back. I agree, it is much improved; still, I like the headlight package, squared stance, etc. of the 3rd Gen better - we will never see that look again . . . until the H2 causes the boxy backlash I predict. :) For me, I am still ecstatic by "making do" with the Pathfinder. :> It is every thing I honestly needed (I never intended to truly climb boulders like intmed99) for my camping, hiking, snowboarding, furniture hauling, dog carting, snowblower borrowing, and Moomba boat towing activities. [As an aside: the HUSKY liners rule in all such situations!]

    Even without the plastic, unless it was perfect, the opportunity costs of that 4th Gen were way too high, by about $5 grand. I love knowing I got the loaded vehicle I needed for basically $30K! Believe it or not, even in this crappy stock market, that $5K saved has already eeked out an 8% return since October. Don't forget all these "glass half full" things. I know you leased, but if you were putting the difference you saved each month into this cheap market, you would be ahead in the big 5-7 year picture IMHO.

    You know, there's a lot of hype about Nissan no-longer being the imitator of Toyota/Honda, and instead being perhaps a new trend-setting leader with many of its new cutting edge vehicles that they are developing, including the new '04 Pathfinder. I have been watching NSANY (i.e., Nissan Motor Corp.) and may pick up more shares if we get down to the right number - I think Nissan is poised to pick up market share going forward. I don't think it was a fluke we "defected" over here . . . among other things, Toyota has some real marketing problems with its vehicles. The debacle with its flagship vehicle, the 4Runner, may be a sign of things to come. At a minimum, the Nissan_SHIFT campaign is closer to the mark than those pathetic, babbling Alzheimer Everest commercials. [But the H2 campaign definitely sets the mark!] Toyota has a lock for now on the baby boomers who discovered its infamous "reliability," but I think Nissan is poised to make some real inroads with the generations after (Gen X, etc.).

    So, maybe take comfort in the fact that you may have bought into a rising star???? Just my gambit. We shall see.

    P.S. To date, I have still only seen ONE 4th Gen on the streets around DC (with the ugly cladding). Unbelievable.
  • steverstever Posts: 52,572
    Trend setting and cutting edge is one thing, but a lot of good will was lost in '99 among Nissan van drivers due to lousy safety engineering. The scores crept back up, but sales really didn't.

    Crash test scores have their own set of problems, and maybe van drivers pay more attention to the scores than SUV/sedan drivers in general, but -- any predictions on how the new line up (across the board) is going to do?

    Steve, Host
  • mjohnr99mjohnr99 Posts: 193
    I wish I had a crystal ball, but I don’t – so I stick to a Peter Lynch approach asking myself why after 2 years of research and wait I myself ended up with a Pathfinder, my first Nissan. I remember about all these guys going for that X-Terra so they could have a truck frame at certain price levels without the looks of something like that RAV4. No copy there. Then, it seemed like I had all these other guys going for that darn Maxima, while I was the loyal Honda dude. What was going on? I watch now as my late 30-something friends gobble up these new Infinity coupes, getting more bang for the buck (IMHO) then my bud bragging about his new BMW 3 series (but the latter has no wife and kids to feed). There’s the Z now back, supposed to be very cool, but I know little about it. Basically, I see Nissan coming out with all these new products, like in the big pickup class and the mini-SUV Murano. The new ’04 Pathfinder too. It seems like they are stepping out from their past. An ad campaign almost as cool as Mitsubishi's (maybe not?), but certainly makes Toyota’s stuff seem like the boring stand-by droll without the new intangible mystique needed for the next generation. 20+ year old friends of my brother say Toyota is what their parents drove! :> I like Toyota stuff a lot, but add this all up (just my personal feeling) and I have to think that Nissan ends up with more market share as a result. I have yet to crunch the charts, but hey, if NSANY hits 13 a share tomorrow, why not gamble 2-3 grand that the next 5 years sees their sales climbing and maybe make some money in the process? Here’s an article about Japanese buying I just pulled up:

    Curious as to your thoughts about the US, but this board may not be the right time or place. Sorry for the digression you all!
  • steverstever Posts: 52,572
    Toyota is what their parents drove! is about the worst thing I've ever seen anyone say about Toyota around here :-)

    I was really getting at your "cutting edge" comment and what percentage of that effort was focused on safety for the NA market. The other market is a mess ;-)

    Steve, Host
  • mjohnr99mjohnr99 Posts: 193
    . . . little 10-baggers are lurking somewhere in that "mess." I just have to find them, that's all . . . ;>
  • M99,

    I didn't mean to open a can of worms when I made my comments about the new appearance package available on the 4Runner.

    The intent was not to reconsider all the tought and decision making process we've been through(i.e. choosing, Nissan, savings, investment possibilities, etc). At that moment we have made the best decision with the information we had.

    All I wanted to say is that I was quite surprised at how fast they came out with an appearance package and that it would have addressed most (but not all) of my concerns with the new look.

    But I'm not sure I would have overcame some other oddities like the squarish look of the fenders (over the wheel), the headlights, ackward dash, busy rear-end, etc. And also I don't know if I would have liked buying into a first model-year. I'm sure they will fix lots of little quirks on the '04.

    I got to see at least 25 03 4Runners of all model types and color. I'm getting used a bit to the new shape. Its like new hair styles or new clothes, they look odd at first but we all get used to it after a while.

    A quick analysis showed me that a 03 SR5 Runner with appearance package would cost just about the same as a 03 Pathfinder LE. Obviously the Runner has less equipment: leather seats, power seats, 17 inches wheels..... but that's about it.

    So please do not take those 4Runner-Pathfinder discussion to seriously. I am not reconsidering my decision... but I'm bound to monitor the evolution of the 4Runner closely as I like the 4Runner familly of trucks and also compare it from time-to time with my Pathfinder.

    Take it like this: Toyota is preparing my next SUV.... and unless they screw up big time again, I'm bound to drive another 4Runner in this life ;-) (I guess other people that have owned or own a 4Runner can relate to what I mean here).

  • mjohnr99mjohnr99 Posts: 193
    Same sort of problems that you get with with E-mail; no oops necessary, I know what you're saying, but just wanted to take the ball and run for awhile. Totally my own digression given that I was looking at NSANY shares at the time . . . which dropped into the 13s earlier today. Hmmmmmmmm. . .
  • pathstarpathstar Posts: 201
    And just to take the discussion a bit farther, the Murano is not a "small" SUV. It's almost the same size as the Pathfinder (a little wider and almost the same length - and weight!). I'm just not sure I want to call it a SUV.

    I'm hoping for a small Nissan with the 3.5 VQ motor and 6 speed! Say around 3200 lbs weight. Now that would be a performer! Not to imply my Pathfinder is not a performer - I, like everyone else, always want more.
  • intmed99intmed99 Posts: 485
    The new 4Runner is a bit of slow seller according to most people. Unfortunate. I do wish that Toyota stuck to it's old design, instead of trying to do battle with Ford Explorer & the likes.

    As for the trend setting, remember that Toyota (& Lexus) have never been known to be "trend setter". Instead, they are quite dull by comparison to most other manufacturers. However, what sets Toyota apart are it's well-documented reliability and quality. Take a look at the Camry. I think it is a best-seller among all cars (i think). There are many faster and better handling cars in it's class. However, buyers KNOW Camry! My ex-girlfriend ONLY knew Camrys...she loved how quiet it is and how smooth it is. Interior is roomy with high-quality materials. Safety is great. She does not care that it is one of the slowest nor that it is very bland in styling.

    Take the 3rd gen 4Runner. It is cramped inside. It is slow (very slow when compared to '01 Pathfinder). It costs a lot! It is hard to get in and out due to it's height. YET, it was the best selling import-SUV. How many 4Runner owners know about off-roading?? VERY FEW! How many soccer moms realize it's off-roading potential?? None! The 4Runner had the looks. It has a tremendous resale value. It was built extremely well with excellent interior materials. It was simply made to last for years. Those things are what Toyota is known for! Those are the things that brought customers into the showrooms. Yeah, it never came close to the Ford Explorers, but it sure made Toyota a lot of money.

    The same goes for Lexus. Why is the ES300 or RX300 the best seller in it's class?? Both are relatively slow and styling is "questionable". For the same reasons above, they are best sellers.
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