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Mercedes-Benz M-class (ML320, ML350, ML500 and ML55) 2005 and earlier



  • Thanks to all for the for the great pictures. I'll be getting the mudflaps and passing on the flares. At least from the pictures I now undersand why they cost so much.
  • slee7slee7 Posts: 7
    I've had my '01 320 for about a month and I've noticed a funny chemical smell from the vents every time the vehicle shifts around. Any ideas???
    Probably a dumb question, but what's wrong with General tires, am I missing something???
    Thanks ahead for the advice
  • slee7slee7 Posts: 7
    Has anyone noticed that in parking situations, when shifting gears, the power steering gives out a little bit, unless you start moving???
  • 52cars52cars Posts: 30
    agree with michml320, it NEEDS mud flaps. i didn't see them on, where is the best place to get them. and for the installation, you just screw it in. right?(if not, instructions are appreciated)

  • 52cars52cars Posts: 30
    During the auto shows that take place every year in nyc. there is a product called 'lazy man's wax'(or something) from Perma-Seal International. have u used them(or seen anyone use them)? are they as good as it says. i bought 3 of them, but i haven't tried it yet. not sure if they are good on mb.

  • ml320ml320 Posts: 22
    There's nothing wrong with General tires - I actually like them - they are similar to Conti CH95s, which S-Class owners are rather fond of. It's just that some of us prefer Dunlops when given the choice.

    General Grabber ST

    ContiTouringContact CH95

  • birgerbirger Posts: 80

    I'm sorry, but what Craig saw at the Frankfurt show must have been a one-off. According to the current official German W163 price list, the 3rd row seats are NOT an option for the ML55.

    I had Dunlops on my first ML320 and was quite disappointed when I saw at delivery that the ML270CDI had Generals. Since then, my opinion has changed: The Generals are quieter, and IMHO also better on snow than the Dunlops. I've not yet been able to go off-road so I can't pronounce on that - though I think the Dunlops might have an edge there.

  • biker5biker5 Posts: 199
    IMO General tire is a good tire I don't have any complaint about it I have 21K+ miles on it and I still have about 50% tread left.

    Installing mud flap is not that easy that we think, But the instruction came with it, can guide you through it. I did take the rear wheel off when I installed my rear flaps. Think SAFETY when working on Vehicle. You can get it to any
    MB dealer and thru on line, call around and get the best price...price vary from $130 to $173.00.
    Good Luck
  • Just thought I would check in to tell the group that the dealer was very good with taking in my damaged trade-in. I had negotiated $26,500 for the trade and then a few days later the car got sideswiped. I called the dealer and explained the situation. We talked through options and they escorted my wife to the bodyshop they prefer and stayed with her to get a quote. They agreed to take the damaged car and pay me the $26,500 less the $3,400 repair quote. After my insurance checked the quote they said they would pay it except for what they said were $200 of bogus items. I called the dealer and explained the situation and they came up with the extra $200 difference.

    So now I am out of a big hassle getting a car fixed and riding pretty in an '02 Silver ML320 (well, actually the Wife is). Drove the car a bunch this weekend and really enjoyed it. Internal appearance and feel is MUCH better than the '99 ML 320 we had. I test drove the car before closing and drove it all weekend without noticing any of the hesitation problems discussed earlier. Maybe I just don't expect too much from the car in terms of acceleration.
  • 52cars52cars Posts: 30

    just called the local dealer here, they don't have it for the 02 model yet. (and it costs about 250 for 01 model.)
  • Does anyone have instructions for removing the door panels? Thinking of upgrading the speakers.

    Dave L.
  • I'm planning on purchasing a 1998 ML320 w/ 57000 miles on it. The vehicle is in great shape inside and out. Has anyone come across any problems with a 1998? Are the miles to high?
  • gpvsgpvs Posts: 214
    Where did you get that little net? That's on the front passenger footwell, right? Looks pretty handy.
  • I have ordered a 2002 ML 500 with Capri Blue color. Is this the "purple-ish blue?" I think that the Orion Blue ($1,000 surcharge) is the purple-ish blue, but I'm not sure. Interior color is black (2 kids, doggie) - less carpet and seat soiling compared to the Tan interior. Will I regret these choices??
  • ccweemsccweems Posts: 33
    Not yet but the Frankfurt show did have a display by these folks. They make integral compressors for the 3.2 engine and have a dealer in the US. They have not done an ML yet.

  • thor3thor3 Posts: 120
    Hi Bob,

    I don't recommend the 1998 model ML's. If you were not aware already the 1998 did not have many of the safety provisions that the 1999 and newer do. For example, ESP that helps keep the ML from loosing control with the use of a YAW sensor. In addition, the 1999 and newer have the BAS that activates the brakes in a panic situation much faster than your foot can do the job. There were also some frame rail modifications to enhance the passenger compartment front footwell . There were some other mods as well. Further, the 1998's were first generation and there were many issues to be ironed out...most third party extended warranties will not cover these...trim/seals...

    The price of 1999 or newer should not be far off anyway...unless you are able to purchase the 1998 under $20K you should really consider a newer model.

    If you are a good shopper you will be able to find a good deal on 1999 or newer...

    Good luck : )
  • kenyeekenyee Posts: 738
    Problem is that the ML320's tranny is not as beefy as the ML430 or ML55's. Not sure if it can handle the power of a supercharged engine...
  • mark156mark156 Posts: 2,006
    Drivenow, I think either blue is a nice color, I personally wouldn't choose a black interior because it just gets too hot. I think the Ash leather is available with either of the blue choices. Of course, I don't have kids so a light interior is not a problem for me. Just my .02.
    2010 Land Rover LR4, 2013 Honda CR-V, 2009 Bentley GTC, 1990 MB 500SL, 2001 MB S500, 2007 Lincoln TC, 1964 RR Silver Cloud III, 1995 MB E320 Cab., 2015 Prevost Liberty Coach
  • itsuiitsui Posts: 15
    Does anyone know how to remove the tail light cover to change the bulbs? I did unscrew those plastic screws. But the plastic cover was very hard to pull it out (specially I'm afraid to break it). Please give me some advices. Thanks!
  • mercaramercara Posts: 291
    In response to people looking for after market tires in the 255/65/16 size for the ML320s. I have been looking for the same. Besides the OEM Tires there is a good off-road tire avalilable from Michelin. IT is called the XPC. I checked it out on They have great reviews but price at about $130+ a tire. That is probably what I will get. I also know that Michelin makes a highway tire in the same size. I haven't looked at it.
  • mercaramercara Posts: 291

    If you really want the All-Wheel Drive Mondeo in North America, you sure can get it at a $10,000 + premium. It is called the Jaguar X Type ;-). It shares the engine and powertrain with the Mondeo.

    Pity the suckers who are willing to shell out $30,000 + to drive a ford with a Jaguar Badge. Correction, Pity the suckers who actually drive a Jaguar.
  • Jon90Jon90 Posts: 33
    I have told a couple people that i will report in. I am deciding on a vehicle to replace my expedition. I took a 320 home over the weekend, and liked it, didnt love it. The seat is not very comfortable for me, and lacked alot of thigh support (seemed short) I also have decided that although it is plenty peppy from a stop, there is very little passing power, especially with four men and four bags of golf clubs. I would have to get the ML500 for the engine. As far as quality, i do think they have fixed alot of the bugs, but i don't think they are up to par with lexus yet. The first ML i looked at had the piece around where the driver seatbelt is attached falling off. The second one, the new 32oz cupholder was broken and would not flip out.

    I will look at the 500 a little further, but am also considering the Lexus LX470, which is WAY more comfortable, but less power. I havent driven the LX yet, but it looks very nice.

    One problem is they had the prettiest car i have ever seen, the new SC430 convertible sitting next to about drooling, it was incredible, the leather looked about 1/4 in thick...

    I think we will probably end up with the ML cause it is roughly 20K less than the LX, but have to see who is dealing what, i have read that the LX's can be had for around 55 or least the 2001s

    Have to keep lookin....
  • I drive the Lexus RX300. My only complaint with it is the seats are uncomfortable (it's boring too). I'm wondering if the LX has different seats. I drove the Toyota Sequoia and found the seats to be about the same as the RX seats, lacking thigh support, too shallow and just as uncomfortable. If you are looking for great comfort the BMW X5 can't be beat, however the X5 seems to have quite a few issues/problems at this time.
  • kenyeekenyee Posts: 738
    For passing with authority, try using the Touchshift to downshift before you initiate the passing. For that much extra weight, you might have to drop into 3rd.
  • drew_drew_ Posts: 3,382

    Just a reminder that the MB chat is on tonight (6-7pm Pacific/9-10 pm Eastern). Hope to see you there!

  • khoonkhoon Posts: 85
    Thanks for getting back - I don't go off-roading. city/hwy driving only.

    Anyone hear anything about the Michelin X Terrian tire?
  • ml320ml320 Posts: 22
    Ken, here's a better pic of those wheels you wondered about. Don't know yet who makes them..


  • Jon90Jon90 Posts: 33
    I drove the X5, i wasn't impressed. It was pricey, and just seemd too small. One of the biggest things that bothered me was the lack of shoulder room. When i sat in the passenger seat, the B-pillar was about crushing me. Why can't they make things things big enough? The RX was in contention, but i hit the roof, not enough headroom, and wife wants a third row seat so we are down to the LX and the ML. I still have not found out how much they are willing to deal on an '02 ML500, am waiting on pricing on the 01 LX470, but I really want the nav.....I like the ML alot, i am just making sure it is really what i want, not to buy it just cause it's less money then the LX.

    Also, i usually lease. There may be some incentives coming out if this economy does stall a little. I am in good shape cause my expedition isnt up until Jan i am not in big hurry, and an educated buyer. Probably everything saleman hates....oh well

    thanks for the posts, i find alot of info here, keep the threads going all!!!
  • The best deal I have heard on the new 2002 ML 500 is $600 over invoice.

  • kenyeekenyee Posts: 738
    City/hwy only, it's a no brainer. Get the Michelin Cross Terrain. They're decent in snow as well. A few folks on this forum have switched to them w/ positive results.
    The MY2002 Dunlop's are not available yet; otherwise, they'd be a good choice as well.

    Thanks. Interesting looking. They look more solid than our wheels (more "spokes").
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