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  • ms09ms09 Posts: 112
    well very strange second x5 now i read,had problems and brand new,,,
  • cefuscefus Posts: 45
    Hope you guys are ready for an exceptional vehicle that will be coming out soon. This X6 (E71) will blow the doors off the hinges. Its going to be an awesome car in performance and looks. Im impressed!!
  • ms09ms09 Posts: 112
    I do know as well that the x6 well be a great looking car, suv crossover i think, i found some images but theyr all different so i dont know which is the rite pic, have u got any pics u can sends, it will be muchy better looking than a x5 :)
  • rfightrfight Posts: 4
    Here we go again. Local service at dealership nor the corporate BMW could figure out what happened with my new x5 dying as I was cruising down the interstate. So I took the care back and guess what, next day it did it again. Back in the dealership. Hopefully they will have answers this time. This car has 5000 miles on it. I'm afraid I am just the first of many that will experience this problem.
  • mexibecmexibec Posts: 114
    I stopped by this forum to get a feel of the new X5. I have an Infinity M45 and Nissan XTerra, and was wondering if the X5 would be *THE* vehicle that would combine the luxury of the M45, the practicality of the XTerra, and solid reliability (I have three kids after all and no time to repeatedly visit my BMW dealer!) Your (great) post pretty much answered all (thanks!) As a former (but-no-longer-loyal) BWM owner ('96 325i, '99 528i, '03 Z3), I finally think I figured out what BMW means in English: Beta Motor Workshop...
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 31,112
    If the pictures I found are what the X6 will look like, BMW can keep it. I like the more usable space in the X5. Check out the sleeked out R class Mercedes. They cannot give them away. An SUV needs to be that, a utility vehicle. Not some sleeked out wannabe SUV. Right now I am leaning toward the GL MB. I want to like the X5 as I have several friends that love them. If I can find a dealer in San Diego that is willing to let me drive one I would be interested.
  • cefuscefus Posts: 45
    The photos that you are seeing are not the final look but a very heavily camo covered car, it is not the crossover car that you spoken of.
    Its a very nice car, I have set in it and down some work on it,the car is still in proto type mode, and so things change on it daily. And my overall impression of it is very good. I think it looks alot better then the Merc or the Lex.
  • Uggghhhh! I just bought my first ever BMW in January 2007. It's the new X5, loaded. Has 5000 miles on it now. Was loving it until last night. Driving down the road and a light came on "Steering Malfunction!" Steering or hydraulic fluid pouring out of the engine area onto the road. Managed to get it back to my driveway. Today is Sunday, will call for service first thing tomorrow morning. Is this the first of things to come? Kind of depressing. I hope my experience with BMW service is acceptable. Stay tuned...
  • Hello,

    I have an '01 X5 3.0 Sport with about 80,000 miles on it. Frankly, there isn't a thing wrong with it - I've had all the scheduled maintenance done and the thing is in perfect shape.

    I'm trying to decide whether to sell it soon or hold it for another 20,000 to 40,000 miles. It's long since paid for, and while I admit that it is nice to have no car payment, it seems to me that I need to become aware of what will happen to the value over the coming tens of thousands of miles.

    In other words, it might be more financially advantageous to sell it now, when it is worth, say, $19,000, than to wait 20,000 more miles when it will be worth very little.

    Intuitively I suspect there is a perceived value dropoff at 100,000 miles. Does anyone have any intelligence as to the value curve over time on these that would help me make a good decision?
  • steverstever Posts: 52,571
    Good question.

    The True Cost to Own tool just goes out 5 years (and at this point only goes back to 2003 X5's).

    But it may show you some trends, like the depreciation curve is getting shallower.
  • Update: After waiting half a day for BMW to come pick up my car (they said "30" mins, then they said another "60 minutes", then another "60 minutes" and so on...) they determined that it was a loose connection "from the factory". They hooked it back up and refilled the fluids. Then they said they had to keep it another day in order to carry out some "service notices". The details were sketchy but they said that the company was issuing a recall in order to "update the transmission software and replace some engine hood clips that are susceptible to rusting." The next day they called me in the afternoon and told me to come pick it up. When I arrived, the serviceman avoided me. The cashier said that they didn't have the software update from the manufacturer yet and that they had to order the clips. I could, they said, have these addressed next time I brought it in for service! To top it off, they didn't not offer me a loaner car. I had to find a friend to lend me a car to get to work and back, a 150 mile round trip. I really want to continue loving this car. I hope this is just an aberration and the only one I have to experience.
  • ms09ms09 Posts: 112
    Guys why don't u admit it bmw are trouble cars...
  • >>

    I disagree. If you observe the proper maintenance routines, by and large they run forever. They are a little more expensive to service when the need arises, but if you are the type of person who keeps a car for 4 to 8 years, you will probably spend about the same as you would for two chevrolets over that time period, only you get to drive a BMW the whole time.

    Just look around you - how many old 3, 5, and 7 series do you see coming and going (you see them quite a bit). Now, how many Camaros - of any vintage - do you see?
  • thstonethstone Posts: 6

    As useful as this forum is, you should not use it to determine the reliability of any car.

    Fact: BMW has sold approximately 580,000 X5's since the model was launched.

    Fact: There are only a few thousand complaints here on this website (and most of them very minor).

    Conclusion: None. This website isn't representative of owners at large (not very many people post who don't have any problems with their cars). This site is predomiently those who have problems and are willing to complain to the world.

    I recommend using Consumer Reports due to the vastly larger and more representative owner sample size.
  • tcn2ktcn2k Posts: 277
    I totally agree with you. As helpful as this site is, most complaint posters are merely here for a day in search for a place to vent or a place to find an answer. Majority of folks who have non-trouble cars don't come here. Then there are the regular who checks this board weekly that understands this delima.
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,059
    Guys why don't u admit it bmw are trouble cars...

    I noticed that you haven't said anything about your own specific experiences with BMW. Some might interpret your challenge as meaning they should admit to something you imagined. ;)

    But, seriously, if you check the discussions of any of the other vehicles you're looking at you'll find owners who have serious problems with theirs. We certainly wouldn't conclude that "all models are trouble cars."

    tidester, host
    SUVs and Smart Shopper
  • cioccabmwcioccabmw Posts: 10
    Last year BMW produced a total of roughly 290,000 vehicles for the north american market. The full capacity of the Spartinsburg plant may be 500,000 vehicles for the entire year not for 5 months. Every car produced has a bad percentage. Consumer reports rated porsche the most reliable car built for 2006. They way the measure this is problems per 100 cars. Out of 100 Porsche had 92 problem free cars. That still leaves 8 bad ones. Someone has to get the bad ones. What makes a great manufacture is when they do the right thing, much BMW did with the 2002 7 series. The problem is many clients over inflate there issues and do not give the manufacture a chance to fix it. When you buy a new home do you have the oppurtunitty to return for nail pops? No.
  • ms09ms09 Posts: 112
    Guys u still wanna argue after reading guys buying new x5 and the brand new car goes dead in the middle of the road did u guys not read what (apbtlvrx4) said and what (freddyb) said??? But i have notice 1 thing which i want to say honestly i think whenever bmw or any other manufacture make a car i would say not all r the same some have defaults and some don't....(tidester) regarding to your message no i don't have a bmw and i don't have any experience with it... but my cousin does he owns a bmw 7 series since abt 4 years and well he hasn't had a single problem with it... But i know some other friends whos car is always in the garage
  • ms09ms09 Posts: 112
  • cioccabmwcioccabmw Posts: 10
    Actually I think BMW does have problems but what I am saying is so does every other brand out there. The most reliable car company still has 8% of total vehicles produced are problematic.
  • anon3anon3 Posts: 147
    To follow on what cioccabmw wrote and for people who obsess over consumer reports ratings... they calculate an average of problems per new car model across large numbers manufactured. So Porsche averages .82 problems per new vehicle. Lexus may have .9 problems. BMW may average something like 1.4 problems depending on the model. It boils down to the fact that statistically you are likely to experience at least 1 problem with any of these new vehicles. (You're certainly not going to have .82 problems.) So what's the difference?

    You're likely to have a problem or two with any vehicle that you buy. New cars are becoming so reliable that a couple problems per new vehicle on average will earn a manufacturer a below average rating. That is pretty damned good when you consider the complexity of modern cars.

    And so what if your BMW does have a problem? Get it fixed for free along with your free oil change and free wiper blades while you drive a free loaner car. Then go enjoy the vehicle.

    And for those who say only complainers and the unhappy post on these forums... I have had 5 new X5s since August of 2001. The first one, BMW's first ever SUV and a brand new model built in a brand new plant in SC, had a three minor problems that were fixed under warranty. After that, these X5s were completely reliable. I've been driving a 2007 X5 4.8i for 5 months with no problems. I am extremely happy with their reliability. (Now ask me about my 2002 745i... that's a different story for another day.)
  • And I totally agree with "thstone". I found this site because I was looking for a place to vent and see if others had similar problems. This is the first time I've ever blogged or engaged in an ongoing chat on the internet. I have a feeling I will keep coming back. I do LOVE the car despite the problems. BTW, I've had is 2.5 months now. Today, the "low oil" indicator light came on and I had to add a quart. This seems kind of early in the life of this vehicle to me but maybe it is because I live in the dessert (Palm Springs), drive a lot, drive fast, and drive aggressively. Nevertheless, I thought this car was designed to handle this type of driving. All-in-all, I have high hopes that these problems I'm having are not typical and will end soon after a little more breakin. My screen name stands for "american pit bull lover times four" and my four pits LOVE this car! So I'm keeping it.
  • anon3anon3 Posts: 147
    Not sure if the oil usage is a sign of a problem in your particular engine, but I can tell you that BMW engines have historically used oil, especially in more extreme driving conditions. I asked one of the senior mechanics at the BMW Performance Center about oil usage (as he was showing us the mechanical design of the M5's engine.) He said they could design an engine that uses little or no oil, but there would be a performance trade off. I've found that all of my BMWs have used oil.
  • ms09ms09 Posts: 112
    So whats the 745i story????
  • Can anyone tell me what happens when you combine these options in reference to the seats. Since the premium package seats have lumbar and the sport seats do not. Does the sport package seats override the premium doing away with the lumbar?
  • kypreosx5kypreosx5 Posts: 14
    For all that are interested, BMW told me that the Nokia 6300 (new phone) is not on the compatablity list for bluetooth. I had one checked out and I now bought one. It works well with my 2005 BMW X5. Its a great little thin phone too.
  • christineechristinee Posts: 1
    I am in a state of confusion over whether to buy a used 2005 BMW X5 for approx. U$30k, 50k miles, in superb condition (the owner is a close friend and car fanatic) with every possible optional that you can think of...I wont bore you with the list. I have been driving Land Rover Discoverys for the past 10 years and am so very tired of them but having never bought a used vehicle before, I'm worried whether its a good idea to buy this one. I only drive SUVs but lately have the desire for something more which I know the BMW X5 will give me. I tend to hold on to cars for awhile (2-4 years) and I guess my concern is buying a car that is already 3 years old!! I am always concerned that there will be a major restyling and that I'm driving around in an outdated car. Please help me decide what to do??? Thanks in advance for any advice
  • tcn2ktcn2k Posts: 277
    I have a 2005 x5 and for some reason, my two keys for memory seats recently developed some lack in memory where it doesn't move my seats back to the original keys if the car sits overnight.

    If I did it whilst not overnight, it works just fine; by moving the seats to the appropriate keys. Any one have any idea on why this recent memory problems?
  • tcn2ktcn2k Posts: 277
    50k is a bit high in mileage, but if he took care of the car well and you trust him; then do it!
  • pantaleonepantaleone Posts: 9
    If anyone has this option that you order from the factory can you please tell me what it is like?

    Does the cable plug into a jack in the arm rest? Does it replace the aux input that comes factory or is it another input like a USB connection? Trying to figure this option out? Thank you
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