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  • cskicski West Springfield, VAPosts: 1,563
    Wanna trade for a gorgeous
    sda said:

    cski said:

    andres3 said:

    stickguy said:

    hopefully they keep at least 1 smaller/midsize sedan. Make the Focus a little bigger, and split the difference?

    ISN'T THAT WHAT ACURA DID? combining the TL and TSX to make the TLX. I don't think they are setting the world on fire with that strategy. I'm not sure who is buying the RLX.
    I haven't been sure about Acura's their marketing for years. How about a new Integra???, instead of the VERY Civic looking ILX, Which basically IS a Luxed/Up Honda Civic. I would buy the better looking (IMO) Civic Sport, or the Si, which are on the low end price wise, and the Si with the wing looks like Darth Vader's earth vehicle. Is Honda withholding the Integra nameplate for some reason? My girlfriend had a 94, loaded with wing and Stock with premium sound and tinted windows. Compared to my car,it really was like the commercial where it was a rollercoaster ride. She loved driving my brute-force '87 Z24 with my newly installed 3.1 liter V6 with 190 HP in my mechanics tune, and a Getrag 5 speed manual. Considering the 87 Cavalier Z24 weighed very little, it would spin through third gear with my 225/60/14!!! Falken tires and racing clutch due to my insatiable urge to drive fast.Ok, back to the subject...
    The Lexus sells wayyy more volume due to the ES350, and the RLX mostly. I have to say that the Lexus lineup is looking good, if not derivative of the same design they have been making for years. My favorite was always the IS350, with a zero to 60 in 4.8 to 5.1 seconds, depending on the car and the aggressiveness of the driver. However, the ES350, stock....did zero to 60 in 5.8 to 6.2 (depending on which mag and reviewer).

    Anyway, I still have my 2012 Kia Optima EX. It has a new engine, new struts,tires...all under warranty (and new brake pads that I paid $20 to install.

    I also replaced the rear tint, now at 20% due to bubbling on the rear with the rear defroster being the culprit for causing bubbles in the tint. It got so bad I could barely see out of it. There was a Maaco shop next door at the Springfield, VA Fullerton Rd. location, and I had some pretty bad front end trim where the clear coat came off, etc. They took care of ALL of it....and it was a good bit of work, for $100. It no, after 7 years, makes it look brand new.
    Sorry I dont post much-Chris
    Was the engine replaced because of the manufacturing issue that was discovered where metal shavings in the engine would eventually cause the engine to fail, or was it a different issue? How many miles on it when it was replaced?
    Yes, it was the metal shavings. There was no warning. She just shut down...Luckily on my street. I pushed it in a visitors spot.

    BTW: My rental SV Altima had a great stock stereo, GREAT gas mileage, and peppy pickup. I got used to the CVT VERY quickly. I did not get the ergonomics quickly, but hell, as soon as I retrieved my USB thumb drive I was happy just to find bass and treble adjustments, and phone pairing should have been a little easier for an '18.
    It feels....more rubbery than mine. The steering is stiff compared to mine, but the ride absorbs everything you can throw at it. I really liked the car. But the styling should make it a favorite with CIA agents...legendary bland in grey with...more gray inside. I would LOVE to drive the "19, which looks surprisingly similar to the front end of my car. I vote it the first attractive Altima of all time!!!

    Chris Skalski: Network Engineer 2012 Kia Optima EX

  • cskicski West Springfield, VAPosts: 1,563
    sda said:

    berri said:

    One of the hits against CVT was longevity. I'm assuming that has been resolved by now?

    Good question. At 80k, the CVT is functioning fine. I spoke with a Service Tech and he said to do CVT fluid changes every 30-40k, which I have done. I have one of those lifetime drivetrain extended warranties that came with the car when I bought it. I don't want to test it and am hoping it is worth more than the paper it is printed on.
    Sometimes those lifetime drivetrain warranties do not pay for all of the labor, or have a deductible. I heard this secondhand but maybe the fine print is worth checking into.
    BTW, I have never heard of CVT fluid changes. There used to be lube jobs, but almost all cars have sealed ball joints that cant be lubed. If I am supposed to change the grease in the CVT no one has mentioned it at the dealer: and I have been at the dealer more than I would have liked to.

    Chris Skalski: Network Engineer 2012 Kia Optima EX

  • cskicski West Springfield, VAPosts: 1,563

    Some analysts think all this is part of a bigger and more ominous trend--that we are reaching, or have reached "peak car"--and that cars sales will never exceed present day numbers again.

    Two of my daughters have no interest in driving, and are unlicensed at 16 and 19. However, my 14 year old cant wait, and have encouraged practice (on private property). I am no longer scared to death with her, but she did nick a bail of hay.

    Chris Skalski: Network Engineer 2012 Kia Optima EX

  • sdasda Indian Land, SCPosts: 2,850
    cski said:

    sda said:

    berri said:

    One of the hits against CVT was longevity. I'm assuming that has been resolved by now?

    Good question. At 80k, the CVT is functioning fine. I spoke with a Service Tech and he said to do CVT fluid changes every 30-40k, which I have done. I have one of those lifetime drivetrain extended warranties that came with the car when I bought it. I don't want to test it and am hoping it is worth more than the paper it is printed on.
    Sometimes those lifetime drivetrain warranties do not pay for all of the labor, or have a deductible. I heard this secondhand but maybe the fine print is worth checking into.
    BTW, I have never heard of CVT fluid changes. There used to be lube jobs, but almost all cars have sealed ball joints that cant be lubed. If I am supposed to change the grease in the CVT no one has mentioned it at the dealer: and I have been at the dealer more than I would have liked to.
    I'm at 90k now and all is well. The CVT in the Accord maybe one of the last non-sealed units. It has a dipstick and the dealer can do a drain and fill or full exchange.

    2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech, 2013 Honda Accord EX, 2006 Acura TL w/nav

  • thebeanthebean Parts UnknownPosts: 1,121
    So @sda, how many times did you change the fluid in your Accord? I ask because my ‘15 Accord has 31,000 miles and I’m wondering how much longer I have before I need to do that service. Thanks.
    2015 Honda Accord EX, 2017 Honda Civic EX-T
  • sdasda Indian Land, SCPosts: 2,850
    I did the first at 40k, pretty much all highway miles. I had a 45 mile commute each way. The second was done just over 70k. Both were drain and fill, i.e. not full exchange done at the Honda dealer.

    2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech, 2013 Honda Accord EX, 2006 Acura TL w/nav

  • thebeanthebean Parts UnknownPosts: 1,121
    Great info @sda. Thanks very much for the quick reply. 👍
    2015 Honda Accord EX, 2017 Honda Civic EX-T
  • sdasda Indian Land, SCPosts: 2,850
    thebean said:

    Great info @sda. Thanks very much for the quick reply. 👍

    Glad to help. Hard to believe in a month I will have had the Accord 6 years, the longest I’ve owned any car. It still looks great and drives wonderfully. It’s been a joy to own. Only regular maintenance, oil changes every 5k, one battery, replacement tires at 60k, starter at 77k (sigh), original brake pads which still have good thickness and rotors, cabin and air filters, wiper blades. I still enjoy driving it.

    2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech, 2013 Honda Accord EX, 2006 Acura TL w/nav

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 33,314
    next month (3 weeks!) the RDX turns 7. Not quite our record, but getting close. I think I had my 626 for 8 years, same for the Odyssey.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's)

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 13,744
    Not a mid size sedan, but in 2 days we will have had our Mustang 28 years.
    2017 Ford Fusion SE 2017 Ford F-150 Limited
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 12,245
    Last May marked 17 years of Wrangler ownership; November will make 24 years I've owned the Club Sport.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2014 M235i; 2009 Cooper Clubman; 1999 Wrangler; 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i

  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyPosts: 8,854
    Amazing. I think the longest car I owned was my 99 S10. I had it about 7 years before giving it to my SIL so she could proceed to run it into the ground (and a pole, and another car.....)

    2017 Buick Enclave / 2017 Hyundai Elantra (for a little longer) / 2019 Volvo S60 T6 Inscription

  • cskicski West Springfield, VAPosts: 1,563
    sda said:

    cski said:

    sda said:

    berri said:

    One of the hits against CVT was longevity. I'm assuming that has been resolved by now?

    Good question. At 80k, the CVT is functioning fine. I spoke with a Service Tech and he said to do CVT fluid changes every 30-40k, which I have done. I have one of those lifetime drivetrain extended warranties that came with the car when I bought it. I don't want to test it and am hoping it is worth more than the paper it is printed on.
    Sometimes those lifetime drivetrain warranties do not pay for all of the labor, or have a deductible. I heard this secondhand but maybe the fine print is worth checking into.
    BTW, I have never heard of CVT fluid changes. There used to be lube jobs, but almost all cars have sealed ball joints that cant be lubed. If I am supposed to change the grease in the CVT no one has mentioned it at the dealer: and I have been at the dealer more than I would have liked to.
    I'm at 90k now and all is well. The CVT in the Accord maybe one of the last non-sealed units. It has a dipstick and the dealer can do a drain and fill or full exchange.
    My 6 speed auto in the Optima was pressure purged and refilled via a fluid input bolt on the trans and a drain bolt on the other end. That is the only way to service it. There is no dipstick (other than me) and the units that do break are swapped out, not repaired. I wonder where all the broken tranny's go? Some poor bloke in Korea is probably lashed 10 times if his Q/C employee number is on it.

    Chris Skalski: Network Engineer 2012 Kia Optima EX

  • cskicski West Springfield, VAPosts: 1,563
    edited August 21
    stickguy said:

    next month (3 weeks!) the RDX turns 7. Not quite our record, but getting close. I think I had my 626 for 8 years, same for the Odyssey.

    I am at 7 years also. I think I know what was really is wrong with my last 2.4 liter engine. One of the grinding sounds was audible this morning when I started the new motor after sitting for 3 days. I don't drive everyday, and I asked for synthetic oil only in the new motor at the dealer, but so far the first fill, and the first change, have both been normal oil. They said they "forgot". Fine, I will take it to the nice people at Exline. They will make sure things get done properly. The manual doesn't say anything about using synthetic oil on the 2.4, but is standard on the turbo.

    I think because the car sits for three days a week causes all the oil to return to the pan, leaving my moving parts unprotected for over 2 seconds at startup. So, can you (stickguy) or any of you recommend something like "Slick 50" or equivalent, and is Mobile 1 still the best synth oil?
    I am not going to let this engine suffer any more than it has to while in traffic jams. I need the internal parts coated with a microfilm of protection like teflon or whatever is best as a new engine sealer thats super slippery....etc, etc. I cant let it suffer the same fate. When I heard that startup grind noise this morning I was furious. Please help.

    Chris Skalski: Network Engineer 2012 Kia Optima EX

  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 10,858
    I think pretty much any synthetic oil is going to be super-slippery. My old Cutlass sits for days/weeks at a time and I never hear any odd noises when I start it. I use Castrol Edge synthetic and have for a number of years.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6, 1968 Oldsmobile Cutlass S Holiday Coupe

  • benjaminhbenjaminh Posts: 4,513
    edited August 30
    The Savage Geese guy does a detailed review of the Accord 2.0 turbo with 6-speed manual. As he says, manuals are almost gone, and so this is a rare car. He mostly really likes it, but says the suspension is not as sporty as it could be.

    2018 Acura TLX 2.4 Tech 4WS (mine), 2018 Honda CR-V EX AWD (wife's)
  • cskicski West Springfield, VAPosts: 1,563
    edited August 31
    sda said:

    I did the first at 40k, pretty much all highway miles. I had a 45 mile commute each way. The second was done just over 70k. Both were drain and fill, i.e. not full exchange done at the Honda dealer.

    Yeah...the last job I had with a 45 mile commute each way, I bought a Mazda Protege LX with a 5 speed, 2.0l, sunroof, and nice wheels. I was starting to burn up the clutch (it was 45 miles into the mountains..wich have lots more snow).
    Yeah..snow and ice also = prodigious burnouts with me. I finally gave it to my neice, bought my "99 Grand Cherokee V8. New the finance guy, who knew it WAS a little old lady's truck, but she barely changed the oil in time.So, we agreed on $7500 with the Chrysler Service Contract 2200 miles after I bought it; the Service Contract paid out $7185 ( I paid $1200 for the contract). Never had any prob except for rear driving lights/brake lights. Prob is water in the bulb contact. Scrape contact back to brass. Dry contact. Replace bulb.

    Chris Skalski: Network Engineer 2012 Kia Optima EX

  • cskicski West Springfield, VAPosts: 1,563
    sda said:

    cski said:

    sda said:

    berri said:

    One of the hits against CVT was longevity. I'm assuming that has been resolved by now?

    Good question. At 80k, the CVT is functioning fine. I spoke with a Service Tech and he said to do CVT fluid changes every 30-40k, which I have done. I have one of those lifetime drivetrain extended warranties that came with the car when I bought it. I don't want to test it and am hoping it is worth more than the paper it is printed on.
    Sometimes those lifetime drivetrain warranties do not pay for all of the labor, or have a deductible. I heard this secondhand but maybe the fine print is worth checking into.
    BTW, I have never heard of CVT fluid changes. There used to be lube jobs, but almost all cars have sealed ball joints that cant be lubed. If I am supposed to change the grease in the CVT no one has mentioned it at the dealer: and I have been at the dealer more than I would have liked to.
    I'm at 90k now and all is well. The CVT in the Accord maybe one of the last non-sealed units. It has a dipstick and the dealer can do a drain and fill or full exchange.
    The dipstck is usually me.

    Chris Skalski: Network Engineer 2012 Kia Optima EX

  • cskicski West Springfield, VAPosts: 1,563
    stickguy said:

    next month (3 weeks!) the RDX turns 7. Not quite our record, but getting close. I think I had my 626 for 8 years, same for the Odyssey.

    I went to buy a Mazda 6. The handling is grezt, but there was no place for driving on a quick 2 lane road....my car was ultimately more powerful. (185 Mazda vs. 200 Kia) both interiors offered BMW style of utilizing a wrapround dash with all important guages aimed at the driver. They are equally sharp looking. Mine was aging in style though.

    Chris Skalski: Network Engineer 2012 Kia Optima EX

  • cskicski West Springfield, VAPosts: 1,563

    Not a mid size sedan, but in 2 days we will have had our Mustang 28 years.

    [email protected] Come on....give us Year, What kind of Mustang (base v6, 289, 302? 427 cobra jet, 351w or 351d or my favorite 5.0 in the 87- 94 as 95 -98 was years of 4.6 Now the new 4cyl turbo has 320 hp and 350 lb ft.
    300 hp V6 (base model)
    437 hp Coyote V8 GT model.

    Chris Skalski: Network Engineer 2012 Kia Optima EX

  • benjaminhbenjaminh Posts: 4,513
    cski said:

    stickguy said:

    next month (3 weeks!) the RDX turns 7. Not quite our record, but getting close. I think I had my 626 for 8 years, same for the Odyssey.

    I went to buy a Mazda 6. The handling is grezt, but there was no place for driving on a quick 2 lane road....my car was ultimately more powerful. (185 Mazda vs. 200 Kia) both interiors offered BMW style of utilizing a wrapround dash with all important guages aimed at the driver. They are equally sharp looking. Mine was aging in style though.
    You might consider test driving an Acura TLX, either the 4-cylinder or the V-6. The lease incentives on the TLX are really good. And if you want to buy, you can "lease to buy," which is what I'm probably doing.
    2018 Acura TLX 2.4 Tech 4WS (mine), 2018 Honda CR-V EX AWD (wife's)
  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyPosts: 8,854
    cski said:

    Not a mid size sedan, but in 2 days we will have had our Mustang 28 years.

    [email protected] Come on....give us Year, What kind of Mustang (base v6, 289, 302? 427 cobra jet, 351w or 351d or my favorite 5.0 in the 87- 94 as 95 -98 was years of 4.6 Now the new 4cyl turbo has 320 hp and 350 lb ft.
    300 hp V6 (base model)
    437 hp Coyote V8 GT model.
    LOL.. doing the math would get you in the right generation.

    2017 Buick Enclave / 2017 Hyundai Elantra (for a little longer) / 2019 Volvo S60 T6 Inscription

  • andres3andres3 Southern CAPosts: 10,957
    Returned the Kia Optima Lease today. Total non-event! (had a pre-inspect).

    Test drove an S6 with 65,000 miles.. Drove like new, but not as sporty as an S4.
    '16 Audi TTS quattro 2.0T, '15 Audi A4 quattro 2.0T, '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion AWD
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