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Chrysler T&C/Dodge Grand Caravan brakes



  • We just bought a 2012 Chrysler T&C on May 27th. I noticed about a week after buying it, that I feel a light vibration when coming to a stop. What happens is if I brake very lightly, then lift my foot gently up off the brakes a bit, I feel a shuddering towards the back. It seems to be getting worse, and I have been very easy on the brakes and driving, in general. What could be wrong? The van is less than a month old, with only around 700 miles on it. When we first got it, my husband noticed a defect in the black trim surrounding the driver's side window. It was wrinkled up pretty bad, so he had to bring it in and have that replaced, which the dealer called it a factory defect. Now I'm having to take it back again soon, because the rear hatch safety device is broken. It keeps closing down even if something is in the way. And with the rear brakes shuddering, on top of all this, I'm really regretting purchasing this minivan. When you buy brand new, you never expect to see problems this soon. Now I'm reading about faulty brakes on the new T&C's. Anyone else have vibrating rear brakes? What was the problem, and solution? I really hope this does not pose a recurring problem, but I'm reading so much about wheel bearings overheating on this make and model. Please share your insight, stories, and advice. Thanks!
  • I put Michelins on my 2009 T&C 3.8. I don't think you are going to get more than 18mpg overall. I get around 16 in town and 23 max on interstate driving.
    But what about the brakes, my wife thinks we need the 4th brake job in 80k miles!! Is there a hidden warranty on this problem from Chrysler that anyone has found?
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 22,094
    It is still early to judge, but so far so good with our aftermarket set.

    As posted above, here is my original post on the subject.

    '17 F150 Crew 2.7; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '09 LR2 HSE. 44-car history and counting!

  • mcg7mcg7 Posts: 5
    there is no special warranty on the brakes. they are wear and tear item and i'd say you are lucky that in 80k miles you've only had 4 brake jobs. we have to replace them every 5-7k miles. buyer beware. if you feel there is serious problem do some research and call the manufacturer for help. don't give up. i now understand why people buy foreign cars.they are made here in u.s. and their service is much better.
  • mcg7mcg7 Posts: 5
    never say never. you may certainly have recourse against chrysler or any other car maker if there is serious [problem with safety of vehicle. do some research and call the right people for help.
  • We bought our car in December 2011....within days we had trouble with the brakes....AWESOME! They replaced the front rooters, some caliber piece and the front my car acting up...took the car in and sure enough, front brakes and rooters! Thank God covered under warranty! But seriously, we just but this 2008 a few months this going to keep happening?!
  • chaswbchaswb Posts: 6
    I purchased a 2011 T & C last June and have had no brake problems at all. They are better than the brakes on my 2009 Grand Caravan. Granted I only have 6500 miles on the car, mostly Houston area driving (plenty of stopping), but so far so good. I'll re-post if I have any problems in the future.
  • jwreichjwreich Posts: 8
    I just purchased a used 2009 T&C with 32k miles. The previous owner had all the service records from the same dealer. I found the original letter that was sent out but wanted to know from those who have had so many services performed, why do you keep Chrysler parts for something labeled a wear item with no warranty?

    After market can get you vented rotors with ceramic pads. This would only cost $275 in parts and an afternoon to install. I would think the problems would go away after that. Seems the dealership charges $540+ for this service and requires it every 7-12k miles.

    Just asking as I don't see a need to stay with something that won't work. If it is the ABS system reports should e filed with

    Anyone used aftermarket care to share the brand they've chosen?
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 22,094
    edited August 2012
    see my post about 4 above yours.

    '17 F150 Crew 2.7; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '09 LR2 HSE. 44-car history and counting!

  • jwreichjwreich Posts: 8
    Great to read that. So it's been several months now, how many miles do you have and are you still good on pads. I assume you are happy as you haven't posted to the contrary.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 22,094
    yes, they are still good. We must have put about 5-6k on them by now. Still like new.

    '17 F150 Crew 2.7; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '09 LR2 HSE. 44-car history and counting!

  • mcg7mcg7 Posts: 5
    i have been busy but they just put new rotors and pads a few days ago. prior to that the pads i had put on were down to 40% after 4 1/2 wks!!! it is insane how fast they wear down. so i am very unhappy with this vehicle. i can only say to those out there with a chrysler that fight for your rights and even those you are unaware you have. the van has 67,000 miles! i hate it! i should have just stuck with honda! we have a hyundai that has never had a problem and it is 9 yrs old. buyer beware!!! i think that you shouldn't have to put chrysler parts for something they say is not covered under warranty! but there is something seriously wrong with the brakes on their cars. what type of car do you own?
  • jwreichjwreich Posts: 8
    edited August 2012

    You say: " i think that you shouldn't have to put chrysler parts for something they say is not covered under warranty!"

    Does Chrysler tell you have must use their product or are you only taking it to the dealership? You could take it to an independent break specialist and have them do the work if you don't feel good about doing it your self.

    I've spoken to a local 09 Touring owner who had not experienced any break issues. They have only done the recall replacement, but nothing in the way of continual break replacements.
  • ricschricsch Posts: 540
    We just had our '10 G-C SE in for a set of new Michelin Defender tires at an independant shop and they recommended replacing the rear brake pads & rotors as the pads are very close to being gone, this at only 31k miles!

    I would definately not go with the oem parts, will be looking into aftermarket products soon.
  • tsu670tsu670 Posts: 293
    Our 2010 T&C Limited has just under 25k miles. I noticed a couple of weeks ago that the brake fluid was darker than the normal light lemon yellow color in the master cylinder reservoir. Bled all 4 brakes this past weekend using recommended DOT 3/4 brake fluid.

    Not sure why the fluid was going so soon, but one theory is that the vehicle sat for almost six months before we bought it new (during auto industry crash). This is our fourth Chrysler minivan, but the first that needed to have the brakes bled so soon.

    BTW, at almost 25k miles, the brake pads still have lots of meat left on them. :shades:

    If we want anything to be done with all these complaints about the brakes - YOU MUST FILE COMPLAINTS WITH National Highway Traffic Safety.

    I just replaced my brakes for the 3rd time with 45,000 miles on 2008 van.

    Chrsyler refuses to acknowledge the problem and after an hour on the phone with them - the rep told me that only NHTSA has the power to do another recall on the brakes!!!!!!

    Every complaint is researched and acknowledge. Even if it was awhile ago - you must report it!!!! Chrsyler is not giving them the information. :lemon: :lemon: :lemon: :lemon: :lemon:
  • We have a 2009. Two months ago received a letter from Chrysler with a special coverage and rebate on front brake pads wearing out up to 36K miles. The rebates are staged in 12K mile increments, so you get a few bucks back from 24k-36K.

    Interesting: we have had 37 new vehicles since 1968 most GM (including a Chevy Sport van and many SUV's). Wwe normally keep our vehicles until they have 55-60K miles. Our 09 T&C is the first to need brake pads.

    We have 40,000 miles on it most of which is cross country freeway (est 32K).

    The rear pads were just replaced with Mopar Value Pads using a Chrysler Coupon for $99 plus tax. The fronts will probably be good until the next oil change (45K). I was mad at Chrysler, but I guess we may be lucky after reading all these horror cases. Their customer service group was sympathetic but precise. The special rebates are for front pads only on the 09. The rears are covered for the standard warranty of 12K miles and they have no contingency for freeway mileage.
  • Hi there all,
    yesterday my Dodge dealer replaced the discs and pads on the rear brakes of my 2010 van. I bought it brand new and noticed the dust on the rear. It was done under warranty.
    They say that the clips pushing the pads on the discs and retracting them are prevented from doing this by rust forming on the tabs of the pads. The clips are stainless. The tabs swell and get stuck. My brake pads were non existent in the rear.
    Up front they say that they are okay but they charged me $80 for regular maintenance, they greased the clips there they told me.
    Chrysler-Dodge asks that this maintenance be done every 20 000 km or 12 000 miles.
    You can bet your sweet bippy that I will try to get reimbursed. If anyone has any new info on this subject PLEASE divulge. Thank.
  • Our '09 Gr Caravan was bought new and within a year the brakes were shot, the rotors would warp when used heavily and the dealership was useless. I was told that a brake recall did not apply to our vehicle and yet the problem reoccurred several times. They would replace pads and turn the rotors etc but the problem would come back within a few months. At one point the rear wheel started squealing and was too hot to touch, just a slight warp is what the dealership had for an explanation. I finally got fed up after Corporate Chrysler was no help and took them to a local service center that found the rotors warp when they get hot, causing violent shaking of the steering wheel. I cannot make the same thing happen now, let's see how long these last.

    I hope this gets elevated. This is a significant safety issue. I'll probably contact the NHTSA to complain as well.
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  • chaswbchaswb Posts: 6
    Have 7,500 Houston (plenty of stops) miles on my 2011 T & C with no problems yet. Planning to rotate tires at 8,000 miles and I'll let you know what I find.
  • Did replacing teh proportioning valve fix teh problem? I am on my 4th set of rotors / pads and it is clearly not a driving style issue or simply an attention to maintenance issue. I have to believe it is either a caliper or proportioning valve issue.

    Any information would be appreciated.
  • I am going to put my 3rd set of rotors on the vehicle shortly and I wondered if your fix was successful over the long haul? Our 2008 T&C Ltd has 56K miles and some severly pulsing brakes. Any feedback you could give would be greatly appreciated.

    I was planning on buying the best aftermarket drilled and slotted rotors I could get to help with cooling while trying your recommended fix on the calipers.

    Many thanks!
  • chaswbchaswb Posts: 6
    Just rotated the tires on my 2011 T & C with 8100 miles. All brake pads look good as new. Rotors are smooth, no ridges. So far, so good. I did notice the back wheels had much more brake dust than the fronts. Strange since the front brakes do more of the stopping which explains the vented fronts versus solid rotors in the back. Do not have any of the pulsing that I had in my 2009 Grand Caravan. Keeping my fingers crossed (hard to drive this way).
  • I believe it's a 3/4" socket wrench. I use a small piece of pipe to get more leverage when they're really tight. I use a piece of wire to tie them up so they're not not hanging on the brake line.
  • WOW!!! this happened to me today... The car was having a very bad shaking problems in the steering wheel. I talked 2 months ago with the dealership and asked them to check my brakes and they told me that everything was perfect. Today, they told me that I have to change the pads and also the rotors, and it is so much expensive!!! I explained them what happened last visit, and he said they NEVER level resurface the rotors... and I HAD to change all completely.. That's a disaster.. and a very bad security issue. What ca we do about this??
  • 1. Written by BASmomma on November 23, 2012 From Rio Rancho, New Mexico, US
    I have had issues with my 2010 Town & Country. They say its the way I drive too. I received the letter regarding the brakes and rotors and since I already had issues with mine and they had me "resurface" them a couple months before that, I basically demanded them to be replaced. They did replace them. I think that was just this past July. Then 2 days ago, I took it in because the brakes squeaked. "They have a glaze over them, so they need to be resurfaced." and the rear brakes need to be replaced as well as needing new tires. I only have 39K miles. I said there is something wrong. this just isn't right. they told me that nothing was wrong with them, they just have a glaze. IT'S A BUNCH OF B.S.!!!!!!!! The first time, they blamed it on my driving and they also blamed it on "New Mexico having a lot of dirt" I have NEVER had to replace rotors or even resurface them and ANY car I've owned. And me having "bald tires" on a mini van at 39K is bs too. I no longer feel safe nor do I agree to spend that much money on my van. I am researching the NM lemon law and will be contacting someone.
  • I called Chrsyler and complained about premature tire failure and they paid for half of brand new tires!!! I still had to fork out $400 but that's better than $800.

    The dealership manager told me that he can't believe that a minivan that heavy would come with such low quality tires and combined with the brakes, it's a disaster waiting to happen.
  • How many miles were on your vehicle? And what was the brand? I once got over 90,000 miles on the original tires on a 1986 Caravan. When I went to replace them, Goodyear didn't make that model anymore.
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