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Acura TL 2009



  • Just bought a new '10 SH-AWD HPT Tech. My wife and I already have an RDX and Accord. We drove the Cadillac CTS, Influnkity G, and BMW 335i X. When comparing these bad boys the Bimmer was a top pick, Caddy a close third, and the G flunked with a nasty rattle and problematic tranny???? Overall the choice was easy, dollar for dollar the Acura TL sold itself. My Honda HRC216 mower starts on the first pull also.
  • rlonn1rlonn1 Posts: 106
    I agree with why you went for the TL SH-AWD, and I am within a few days of getting the same car you did, just a different color. Palladium Metalic.. I have found this color to be the best compliment to the front Nose Style of the TL. Due to the Chrome Front and Palladium paint, the nose contrast is Greatly Reduced, and what some might find objectionable, just goes away IMHO... OPEN QUESTION,, what does it cost, good price, for a 10 year-100K extended warranty, $100 deductable.. I have heard lows of $1500 and high of $2500.. Any feedback would be appreciated...
  • rlonn1rlonn1 Posts: 106
    OH, same car but not with the HPT.. I was told that when you get the HPT you also get a stiffer suspension and the ride is a bit more firm then the stock SH-AWD WITHOUT HPT.. Is that correct?
  • bampbamp Posts: 4
    I purchased a 2010 TL Tech package and after using the car for a few weeks I started hearing noises from the back seat, after taking it to the dealer they told me the noise is coming from the gas tank. It was the fuel moving around apparently they used a bigger tank in the newer TL's which makes this type of noise and they class it as a characteristic of the vehicle, I called Acura and they told me the something there is on fix for this problem. Which blows my mind I paid over 40k for this car and not only do I hear road noise but also the gas moving in the tank what can a person do about this the dealer and Acura is stating all of the new TL's have this same noise can they actually get away with something like this. Is anyone else experiencing this problem?
  • hpmctorquehpmctorque Posts: 4,600
    Is there anything you don't particularly like about your TL?
  • ChasboyChasboy Posts: 186
    The only thing I don't like is that I don't drive it any minute of the day. Even if I try to nitpick, none of the nits or picks are worth talking about. As for size, it is SO nice go out with friends and not feel apologetic about cramping them in the rear of the 325. -4 full size adults and everyone comfortable.
    As for the grill, there is a full chrome one with a matching rear piece for the trunk available. I saw the setup on a black one and it was very nice. One reason we chose the white was also due to lower 'contrastiness" with all of the trim.
    The noise from the gas tank is unacceptable in any passenger car. In a simple vehicle like my Element or going back many years, my 1978 IHC Scout 2, it could be tolerated, yet I have never heard anything in the Element. Acura needs to redesign the gas tank with more baffles to prevent the sloshing noise from entering the passenger compartment.
  • rlonn1rlonn1 Posts: 106
    I have had my 2010 TL,Tech SH-AWD for about 3 weeks now. 632 Miles. Yesterday I drove from San Diego to Borrego Springs (Desert). About a 2 hour trip. You have to climb over the mountains on back winding roads and then you descend down into the Desert Valley. Spring Wild Flower Time! I just can’t find anything wrong with this automobile. I DO NOT hear any gas tank noise, even when my wife drives the car and I sat in the back. I normally never let it get below ½ tank of gas. I had to pass a few cars along the way and hit about 100 MPH as I sped by that Honda Accord! The best way to describe the AWD is that, it is like the car was on a set of railroad tracks. It just hugs the road and you don’t feel like the tires are going to break loose. I have about 20 CD recorded on the HDD. I have memorized about 50% of the voice commands and can do most critical things now all by voice. Have a picture of the Granddaughter as Clip Art for the Nav Screen. My wife drives a 2009 TSX, and the cars have no real comparison, the TL is just that much better in every aspect, well she does get 31 MPG on my Trip yesterday I got 23.2 MPG… When driving to work I have people beep their horn and give me a Thumbs Up on the car. I think the styling is just phenomenal! My commute to work is about 20 minutes, and I wish it was more like an hour as the car is just fun to drive… BTW, when I was descending down from 4000 feet, I used the shift paddles to not have to use the brakes, worked flawlessly. My Honda Pilot will now become my weekend vehicle for that trip to home depot or when family visits from out of town. My 1995 Nissan Quest, 148K is being sold… One last comment, I just received the 1000 Pages of Electrical and Mechanical books from HELM Corporation. Being an engineer, I just like to understand how it all works… :) :) :)
  • jvettejvette Posts: 70
    I agree with all the above. Great car and I think the styling looks great.
  • billyperks2billyperks2 Posts: 378
    One thing I dislike is the global solor sensor, I think half the time it adjust the temperture incorrectly in the car-its either too hot or too cold.
  • rlonn1rlonn1 Posts: 106
    What I do is first hit Auto Temperature for the driver and the passenger. Then I hit the internal air circulation only. I find more control keeping outside Smelly Air out of the car. With the Navigation doing the rest, I find that setting it at 70 keeps the car near perfect for me and the wife.. Going up to 72 or down to 68 is all the range control I need. Part of this may be that San Diego, Ca. is not a place know for its extreme weather, but it has been in the 40" last month and today it hit 79 degrees and the TL does a fine job keeping me nice and cozy. I never wear a jacket in the car, just a short sleeve shirt.
  • billyperks2billyperks2 Posts: 378
    I am in the North East (CT) and on some cold mornings I would set it 70 degrees and the Fan speed at 2. I tend to feel cold at this settings and I have to up the thermostat to around 70. As for the re-circulating air, I only use that when the AC is on.The manual actual tells you its best to have the vents open for the fresh air to come in.On a different note, the car is stellar in every other aspects.
  • ChasboyChasboy Posts: 186
    Billy, remember that setting the thermostat at 70 degrees does not mean that the air you feel once it hits you is at 70 anymore. I am rarely comfortable at that setting unless I am warmed up at a higher temp.
    I also find that in the recirculate mode, if I forget to change it, after awhile the windows start to fog since the interior air keeps getting more humid. This happens pretty dramatically in my Element.
    We are closing in on 10k miles, and I don't know where the miles have gone, and of course want this wonderful car to run forever!
  • billyperks2billyperks2 Posts: 378
    Wow, 10k already? tomorrow makes 7 months of ownership for me and I only have 3k.I am planning to buy a used RSX (maybe the Type S) this summer just to drive around town, but the prices are still kind of high for 2004-2006 model year. I saw one on the internet in Colorado listed for 3,500 but the mileage is up there.
  • jtlajtla Posts: 373
    No offense, but if you only put 3k miles in 7 months, what/why do you save the TL SH-AWD for?
  • billyperks2billyperks2 Posts: 378
    Saving it for my 10 year old daughter- just kidding. I actually want this car to last a long time, I just dont want to go through the hassle of car buying for another 10 plus years (when I am in my forties).I do think however that I might do several road trips this summer and by the way, I commute to work via train.
  • rlonn1rlonn1 Posts: 106
    When I took my Art class in collage Many years ago, we were told that you have only two types of lines, a straight line and a curved line. The combination of both together is almost infinite in numbers. After owning the TL SH-AWD for a month, nothing has changed from my initial impression when I first saw this car 1 year ago, wow, it sure is beautiful!

    As you move around the car the lines change and curved meets straight. The front grill is a perfect example of curved meets straight, but it does it in a way that draws you to the very front! I also learned that the colors of these straight and curve lines can also influence the way the BRAIN rationalizes the combination. So when I picked Palladium as my Color choice, I did it as it minimized the Contract between the paint and the front Grill. I also think Black or White are the other two colors that work this way.

    My car has been seen by most of my friends; dozen of co-workers and folks walking past it when parked near the Hotel Del on Coronado, San Diego, Ca. Not a single BAD thing said, only complements, and a lot of fingerprints from folks stopping and looking in the window. As with any car design, subjectivity is always going to be a factor, and each persons Brain deals with curved and straight lines differently. That is why one Oil Painting may draw one person in, and another may turn the person off!

    The Acura TL design is different, more futuristic, and for some requires a bit of time to figure it all out, but for me it was love at First Sight!
    ;) :surprise: :)
  • sweendogysweendogy Left lanePosts: 1,294
    every other post from the new TL owners is the same-- "contrast with the grill" or something that indicates they bought a car they think is OK- but still not sure about the look --- technology great, power great, service great-- but not sure about the style. I own a G35x 2007-- and considered the 07 TL-- (real reason i bot the infiniti was AWD (with rear bias) and power-.) - last generation TL real looker this new TL is a DOG and its to bad because they did a nice job adding AWD and they should recall the car for bad styling.
  • rlonn1rlonn1 Posts: 106
    Today my wife and I spent about 3 hours in Los Angeles in preparation for the big LA Marathon on Sunday! Had the TL parked in a space near the registration area for the entire time. Had a few lounge chairs out and I would guess over 1000 people walked right past the FRONT of my TL, SH-AWD Paladium.. Yes a few folks said , "that looks strange", but the VAST MAJORITY were nothing but compliments, from is that a new Acura, never seen this car before, I like the way it looks, Look at the wheels, I love the Color was a big compliment. If this is a Turn Off design, well at least not for the majority of the 1000 people who walked past it... A few wanted to see the inside, one nice fellow wanted to see under the hood... I think the thing I never thought about was the rear dual exhaust, and the way it is part of the rear styling and they are BIG. Most folks honestly thought it was a V8, because why would they put such large exhaust on the car.. interesting observation.. ;) ;) ;)
  • sweendogysweendogy Left lanePosts: 1,294
    edited March 2010
    Of the 1000 people how many were the vast majority? if a few folks said "that looks strange" how many do you think didnt say it -but were thinking it ?? a recall is needed.

    good luck in the marathon
  • graphicguygraphicguy SW OhioPosts: 10,072
    rlonn....good luck in the marathon.

    I went through the whole Infiniti Gx(s) vs the TL SH AWD. I kept coming back to the Acura because of its bold styling, in and out. While the G's interior is nice, the Acura's interior was s step above, IMHO.

    I liked the exterior styling from the "get go". It's expressive. That suits me. I also found the sport seats in the SH AWD TL to be better than the sport seats in the G37 (at least in the "s" version) which were very uncomfortable for me. And, I'm not a big guy, either.

    I found the G's styling to be.....hmmmm.....what are the best words? "middle-of-the-road", maybe? I could say the same thing about the Chevy Malibu, though.

    In short, they're both good cars. I just preferred the Acura, for a variety of reasons. And to me, that's all that really matters.
    2018 Acura TLX SH AWD ASpec
  • jtlajtla Posts: 373
    graphicguy, congratulation on the TL SH-AWD! Did you get the color combo you like?

    As you said, both the TL and the G37 are great cars in this segment. At the end of the day, it is all about personal preference. I knew you were going to pick the TL.;) And you probably also had a feeling that I would go with the G37. Well, I have indeed and couldn't be happier. :)

    Enjoy the ride! :shades:
  • graphicguygraphicguy SW OhioPosts: 10,072

    You and I spoke about both cars, at length. As you say, there's no bad choice between the G and TL.

    I had shopped, and shopped. Looking for the right color combo, in either car.

    I was always leaning towards the TL as I preferred the way it handled, and the way the seats felt. It came down to very slight advantages for me.

    Yeah....I did get the color combo I wanted....that is, black exterior (actually, it's called "crystal black pearl", which is black with metal flake of different colors embedded) and taupe interior (which is a gray/cream color).

    In short, there are no wrong choices in these two cars. Both are great. They both perform about the same....just in different ways. It comes down to subtle preferences.
    2018 Acura TLX SH AWD ASpec
  • sweendogysweendogy Left lanePosts: 1,294
    edmunds wrote: -vs-2009-infiniti-g37-journey.html

    Car and driver: 28i_audi_a4_and_acura_tl-comparison_tests

    and Ugly car website:

    Net net if your shopping for an acura TL (FWD) you should also check out buick LaCross, lex ES, and lincoln. (all better looking, front drive bias) The AWD is closer to audi A4 and VW passat. (all less powerful, but again better looking- front bias AWD starting around 40k)
    Acura lost me when they decided to enlarge the TL. Then the TSX moved up in size--then they decided to put a V6 into the TSX-- RL ? who would buy a car the same size as the lesser priced TL (with more power). The RDX has a cool 4cly engine but gets worse fuel economy then a larger TL- then they waste production time on the ZDX- -what is it?? why no coupe -- convertible--or hybrid??

    sorry for long ramble but the Acura TL needs to be recalled - all of you should demand a new grill and 3k back-- you were Bernie MADOFFed.
  • graphicguygraphicguy SW OhioPosts: 10,072
    sween....I know some of the 3rd generation faithful didn't like how the 4th generation of the TL had grown. But, I can see where Acura is going. Personally, t think the TL moved into the top spot for Acura. I know my Acura dealer rarely has more than one RL on his lot for sale. TL took its spot. The TSX moved into the slot of the 3rd gen TL (smaller, FWD, all the tech goodies).

    Once Acura cancelled (or at least delayed) their V8 engine program, the RL development kind of came to a stop.

    TL is what I've called a "tweener", occupying a slot right between a BMW 3 and 5 series, between an Audi A4 and A6. It handles great. It's fast. It's built very well. Has great resale. And, it's built as well (or better) than just about anything else within its price range. Plus, they're giving some really good deals on them right now.

    Styling is subjective. I really like the way it looks. It's certainly distinctive (which I like).

    I agree with you that the base TL is aimed smack dab at the ES 350, and cars of that ilk. It's a softer ride/drive.

    The SH AWD version is almost an entirely different animal though. Sharp reflexes, fluid steering, tenacious handling, without a punishing ride. It even makes nice sounds (especially when you wind it out).

    I liked the G, a lot. My biggest "dings" on it (and they were minor quibbles) were the seats, and the way the automatic transmission always seemed to be "flat footed" when I test drove it (3 times).

    In short, we buy what we like. I just liked the TL SH AWD better. It's a great car (just like the G).
    2018 Acura TLX SH AWD ASpec
  • billyperks2billyperks2 Posts: 378
    edited March 2010
    There is a trainer in my Gym that has a G35X (Grey exterior) and him and I TRY to park next to each in parking lot to aviod getting dings for the unscrupulous.I have to admit, seeing the TL(white pearl) next to the G35X makes the (G35X) looks dated-OLD.Even the trainer admits that the TL takes the cake.Not trying to bash the G-it was on my short list while shopping last year, it came off when I test drove it-too cramp on the inside.It reminds me of my 99 Mazda Millenia and there were a few cosmetic things I did not like-one, the foglights are inserted with the headlights-a no no for me and a few others that did not suffice my taste.
  • graphicguygraphicguy SW OhioPosts: 10,072
    billy...what I've seen, the folks that don't like conservative styling, gravitate towards the TL. I'm one of those. I was one of the people who was ambivalent towards the conservative styling of the 3rd generation of the TL (even though I owned a 3G TL).

    Even the G's interior is much more conservative that the TL's interior.

    Again, no bad choices between the G vs the TL....just personal preferences. I think conservative leaning folks will lean towards the G. More expressive or edgier folks will appreciate the TL's look.

    Personally, I felt the TL SH AWD was more refined that the G37xs, too. Again, some like one direction, some like the other.
    2018 Acura TLX SH AWD ASpec
  • proeproe Posts: 157
    edited March 2010
    When new TL came out with SH AWD, I said that is my next car.

    Dose any one of you think that Honda should have put 6sp auto instead of 5sp auto in TL SH AWD?

    Hoping they would put ZDX's 6sp auto in TL SH AWD in mid-cycle design change.

    I do think new TL style looks a lot better in person.
  • graphicguygraphicguy SW OhioPosts: 10,072
    pro.....I don't know what a 6-speed would net the TL. Maybe a little better MPG. Some say it would increase performance. I don't know, though. It depends how Acura would rework the gear ratios. And, if they made it more aggressive, would it negatively impact MPG. Conversely, would adding another ratio just for increased fuel efficiency, would it blunt performance? Would it be just another "overdrive type" additional ratio?

    Lots of questions, obviously.

    Generally speaking, most tests have the SH AWD version doing 0-60 in about the 5.5 sec range (without abusing the car). I've seen some in the high 5s, too. That's pretty fast. The 6-speed manual tests out around the low 5s. What would an extra gear net on performance? I dunno, maybe a tenth or two 0-60? Is that enough of a bump that you'd notice?

    How about fuel efficiency? Another gear ratio would possibly net another .3-.5 MPG, maybe? Is that sufficient enough to merit waiting? Again, I don't know.

    We've been talking a bit about the comparison of the TL vs the G. The Infiniti G uses a 7-speed automatic. Even with 7 gears, I found that the transmission could be caught napping when a gear or two kick down was needed. Something I've never found with my current TL.

    So, lots of unanswered questions.

    I like the 5 speed they currently use in the TL. It's quick to kick down. And, it's easy to keep in the power band.

    For me, it doesn't matter if there's 5 or 6 gears as long as it works well. I just don't think the difference is going to be all that significant if they do change the transmission.

    As soon as I saw the TL in person (at its launch last year at my local dealer, I was hooked. It's a stunning car.
    2018 Acura TLX SH AWD ASpec
  • jtlajtla Posts: 373
    I think conservative leaning folks will lean towards the G. More expressive or edgier folks will appreciate the TL's look.

    Well, yes and no. I would be the first to admit that I am one of those "conservative-leaning folks". However, I really like the 4th gen TL exterior styling. In fact, I wish that Infiniti had gone a little bolder with their restyling of 2010 G. Although they did a good job to the Sport model front bumper, the rest of changes are just too subtle.

    As to the interior, I think the difference between G and TL is not a matter of conservativeness but their approach to functionality and ease of use. While both score high on these counts, I prefer the G's clean design over the TL's array of buttons.

    This may sound odd, but overall the single most deciding factor for me to rule against the TL was its size. At 195" in length and 74" in width, it is just too big a "sport sedan" for my taste. Had the TL come in 95% scale of its size, I might have gone with it. (Yeah, I also liked G's handling better, but I believe that it got to do with the physical dimensions, too.)
  • smarty666smarty666 Posts: 1,503
    edited March 2010
    Hi all, I am not sure if this was the specific discussion to post this in so I thought why the heck not and see what a bunch of you guys think! I have a 08 TL, actually my second, after a 06 TL I had and there has been a lot of BS spread on a couple of luxury forums on here, namely the one that questions Hyundai ever becoming a luxury brand on the auto news tab, that Acura isn't really considered a luxury make like BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Lexus, and Infiniti are?

    I have been having to constantly defend all our honors because I personally feel this argument is ludicrous, and while Acura certainly doesn't have a luxury sport enthusiast background (ie the lack of a V8 with RWD model) that doesn't mean that they are not any less luxurious then the other 5 in all sense of the word "luxury"

    I've argued that except for sport performance/super crisp handling, Acura provides all the necessary characteristics of a luxury brand, such as high quality, proven reliability, above and beyond dealership/service experience, loaner cars, high reliability, great technology, and luxury creature comfort! all of which make it a luxury brand

    I'm sick of people trashing Acura like they are rebadged Honda's while I have test driven Honda's back to back with Acura's I can assure you they are not simply rebadged Honda's!!

    I wanted to get all you Acura owner and leasee thoughts on this subject and suggest you visit the luxury boards on edmunds and defend Acura's luxury status with a passion and tell all the rest of the luxury car owning community, especially the sport enthusiast community WHY AND WHAT makes Acura a luxury line!!

    I personally and tired of hearing from the BMW, Mercedes, and Lexus people that Acura is a "wannabe" or "pretend" luxury brand - their is more to luxury then V8/RWD don't you think???

    Look forward to hearing your posts!!!
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