What do you like to see on next Outlander?
lmchen
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After looking through the discussion today. Nothing insterest me much.
Let's start something new & make it useful. Hopefully Mitsu is watching the thread. We might really get what we ask for.
I Love my 07 Outlander XLS.
That's said, Here is my *wish* list. (Or to the future car that can foot the bill. It works too.)
1. Bigger gas tank!!!
a. Got to go to gas pump to waste 20 minutes every 9 days.-- Sigh.
2. Fast key programming.
a. Driver side to unlock all door easily
b. Allow My wife want to put her purse on the passingser side. She will be really happy Mom.
3. Get my clock out of that Navi.
a. Ouch, I have to use AC control to know what time is it. (Oh, I like to display off Navi. That LCD get a limited life span.)
4. Audo power on button on The steering wheel. (some combination will do too.)
a. The consequence of turn it off is that -- In the passing highway, got to keep your finger straight to turn the auto on.
5. to All, please
a. Man, I know using Navi is not safe. Do I have a choice? If not. Stop bugging me EVERY Time.
6. What's the hack is the "factory rack" without cross bar.
a. Can we learn something from Subaru -- you put on something, make it useful.
7. All weather matts and other Accessary That we can order in NA please.
a. Common, I doesn't expect dealership have it. But gee. I can't even order it. Unless I want to order it from Austrlia -- Sigh.
What's your list?
Let's start something new & make it useful. Hopefully Mitsu is watching the thread. We might really get what we ask for.
I Love my 07 Outlander XLS.
That's said, Here is my *wish* list. (Or to the future car that can foot the bill. It works too.)
1. Bigger gas tank!!!
a. Got to go to gas pump to waste 20 minutes every 9 days.-- Sigh.
2. Fast key programming.
a. Driver side to unlock all door easily
b. Allow My wife want to put her purse on the passingser side. She will be really happy Mom.
3. Get my clock out of that Navi.
a. Ouch, I have to use AC control to know what time is it. (Oh, I like to display off Navi. That LCD get a limited life span.)
4. Audo power on button on The steering wheel. (some combination will do too.)
a. The consequence of turn it off is that -- In the passing highway, got to keep your finger straight to turn the auto on.
5. to All, please
a. Man, I know using Navi is not safe. Do I have a choice? If not. Stop bugging me EVERY Time.
6. What's the hack is the "factory rack" without cross bar.
a. Can we learn something from Subaru -- you put on something, make it useful.
7. All weather matts and other Accessary That we can order in NA please.
a. Common, I doesn't expect dealership have it. But gee. I can't even order it. Unless I want to order it from Austrlia -- Sigh.
What's your list?
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Sunglass holder, besides a clip on the sun shield.
I like your #2, regard opening all doors.
I don't need or desire the rack. In fact I think the ES looks better. Need an option to omit on LS and XLS.
I just put a Lund bug deflector on the front of the hood because of the lack of accessory parts available.
a. Got to go to gas pump to waste 20 minutes every 9 days.-- Sigh.
The gas tank is about enough volume for me.With a full tank, I need to refill it every 2 weeks. That will really depend on how much you travel. For the average Joe, 15~ gal is about enough. I don't want it any bigger, and carry extra weight, which will then have a toll on my mileage.
2. Fast key programming.
a. Driver side to unlock all door easily
b. Allow My wife want to put her purse on the passingser side. She will be really happy Mom.
Currently all these are possible to be set, especially with an MMCS equipped model. I don't see why your wife can't put her purse on the passenger side. There are A LOT of space to put that purse in.
3. Get my clock out of that Navi.
a. Ouch, I have to use AC control to know what time is it. (Oh, I like to display off Navi. That LCD get a limited life span.)
You mean you turn the Navi off most of the time? As with everything else, nothing lasts forever. Why would you buy the MMCS and turn the LCD off all the time? Personally, I'm fine with the clock on the Navi. I don't want another clock on the dash.
4. Audo power on button on The steering wheel. (some combination will do too.)
a. The consequence of turn it off is that -- In the passing highway, got to keep your finger straight to turn the auto on.
IMO, the current audio buttons are about enough. I don't wan't the steering wheel to become the stereo dash
6. What's the hack is the "factory rack" without cross bar.
a. Can we learn something from Subaru -- you put on something, make it useful.
This one I agree, we need crossbars, OEM ones. Thule/Yakima is nice but it's not specifically designed for the Outlander rack
7. All weather matts and other Accessary That we can order in NA please.
a. Common, I doesn't expect dealership have it. But gee. I can't even order it. Unless I want to order it from Austrlia -- Sigh.
Yes, more accessories like the UK and AU. :shades:
How about just ditching the whole "package" thing and inventing options?
One touch rear seat retraction
RDS in the MMCS head unit
Beam or bracketless wiper blades
Silly things I know, but if not for anything else, just to stick it to RAV4 and CR-V!!
2. Web browser with Sprint EVDO access.
3. Nicer, more luxury looking instrumentation with blue lights instead of red (or even with option to pick lights color).
4. Better place for the parking brake.
5. Wider body for more space, better stability and better styling.
6. Wide panoramic rear view mirror.
7. Rear view video camera
8. Twice bigger opening for the sunroof
9. Few more horses to the engine
10. Couple more gallons to the tank
11. Chrome grill and additional chrome accents on exterior.
12. Interior wood trim accents.
13. Bumper guards like on some BMWs, but not in black: matching body color or clear.
15. Beige interior should be available with every exterior color.
16. Hybrid version.
1. Auto on/off headlights.
2. Heated mirrors (still not sure the current models have them as rumored).
3. Sunglass holder
4. Better door panels or at least painted silver door handles (not chrome).
5. Better HVAC controls, with rubber lining (similar to the 4WD knob).
6. Remote rear seats release in the cargo area.
7. OEM crossbars.
8. More solid sunvisors, with extenders.
9. Better plastic covers for the rear seats hinges.
10. Anti-slip lining for the lower central console storage area.
11. More accessories: OEM all-weather mats, black rear bumper protector (only stainless steel available).
12. Not sure if this is a phone or BT interface limitation, but I would like to be able to call the numbers from my cell phone phonebook instead of building a duplicate phonebook on the car's BT system. In any case, the BT should offer more than 32 entries for the phonebook (100+ would be OK).
13. Push button ignition with an in-dash slot for the key fob(similar to Nissan).
14. Make the 3rd row optional on the XLS.
What she find out is that, her key is in the purse. . As Mom, she has a *lot* of items,maybe too many, in her purse for our 3 years old. The key key nob won't let her turn the key sometimes that she have to get the purse back to drive seat to enable the Key to be sense by the sensor. (Well, at the same time, there probably 10 different thing in the passanger seat already.)
Not a problem for me, since my key is in my pocket, Outie has absolute no problem of sensing it. :P
FYI, the FAST Key doesn't have to be in the driver's seat for the car to start. Tested by me personally. As long as the key is inside the vehicle, you shouldn't have a problem. If you're having trouble with that, you should have your fob checked by your dealer.
But for Mitsu's sake.. lots of sound deadening materials including laminated glass etc..
1. Back up camera.
2. Seat memory.
3. Smaller Fastkey remote
4. Power folding mirror (It's only available in UK so far).
2. Fix the tip-in throttle lag.
3. Back up camera.
4. Chrome or painted silver interior door levers.
5. iPod jack standard, with display interface.
6. Seat memory.
7. Smaller Fastkey remote.
8. Euro accessory parts availability.
2/. The bottom seat to have more range adjustment.(manual)
3/. The center armrest to have a more FORWARD position.
4/. Standard mud flaps...
5/. OEM roof crossbars readily available.
19. Real horn
20. Liftgate closing with less effort or better power liftgate.
21. Option to remove 3rd row seat to convert to storage.
22. Smaller Fastkey remote.
Manufacturers do change car names from time to time: Lincoln Zephyr was renamed this year to Lincoln MKZ, which is not exactly a good change.
Outlander deserves more unique name.
By the way, most of the things listed by other posters in this thread are already available as standard equipment or as an option in the 2nd Gen Outlander in other markets. But the rename thing, well, that's purely wishful thinking.
Most? Not "most":
1. Navi LCD mounted on articulating-ajustable arm.
2. Web browser with Sprint EVDO access.
3. Nicer, more luxury looking instrumentation with blue lights instead of red (or even with option to pick lights color).
4. Better place for the parking brake.
5. Wider body for more space, better stability and better styling.
6. Wide panoramic rear view mirror.
7. Rear view video camera
8. Twice bigger opening for the sunroof
9. Few more horses to the engine
10. Couple more gallons to the tank
12. Interior wood trim accents.
13. Bumper guards like on some BMWs, but not in black: matching body color or clear.
14. Push button keyless ignition, instead of turn-knob.
15. Beige interior should be available with every exterior color.
16. Hybrid version.
18. Illuminate all the power controls on the driver's door.
19. Real horn
20. Liftgate closing with less effort or better power liftgate.
21. Option to remove 3rd row seat to convert to storage.
22. Smaller Fastkey remote.
Anyway, this thread is not about features availabe "in other markets". It's about wishful thinking.
"Inside, the Outlander is both good and bad. The seats, leather clad in our test car, were comfortable and power adjustable on the driver's side. But there was no lumbar adjustment, something that we thought odd at this price. Wind whistle was prominent from all sides and especially at any speed over 60. There was too much road noise as well, again considering the $30,615 price sticker for our top-of-the-line XLS model.
There was an overabundance of hard plastic inside, the doors sounded cheap when closed, and the third row seat was, at best, a joke. Your cat would not be comfortable back there.
From dodo's list
1. Auto on/off headlights. - AU
2. Heated mirrors (still not sure the current models have them as rumored).-AU
3. Sunglass holder-UK
4. Better door panels or at least painted silver door handles (not chrome).- US
6. Remote rear seats release in the cargo area.-UK
7. OEM crossbars.- UK, rest of EU
(these are your suggestions below:)
Rear view video camera - Japan
Chrome grill and additional chrome accents on exterior. -UK
Interior wood trim accents- Japan
Push button keyless ignition, instead of turn-knob - Japan
It's still a wish list because we don't have it locally.
Got a ride in a Nissan X-Terra yesterday, and the door handles are made of plastic, which looks worst than that of the Outlander's.
1. Auto on/off headlights. - AU: This is a current US feature - no big deal
2. Heated mirrors.-AU: NO in AU, but YES in UK. They are also remotly folding
3. Sunglass holder-UK: YES
4. Painted exterior silver door handles (not chrome).- US: They are silver in US
6. Remote rear seats release in the cargo area.-UK NO
7. OEM crossbars.- UK, rest of EU: NO in UK but YES in JP
8. Rear view video camera - Japan: YES
9. Chrome grill: NOT the whole grill, just a trim as in US
9b. additional chrome accents on exterior. -UK: YES
10. Interior wood trim accents - Japan: YES
11. Push button keyless ignition, instead of turn-knob - Japan: YES
12. Both Japanese and UK versions have parking censors.
Japanese Outlander has tons of optional accessories:
http://www.mitsubishi-motors.co.jp/support/accessory/catalog/pdf/OUTLANDER.pdf
Most of these options though are not part of packages so they could get expensive if you get them one by one.
In regards to the door handles, I meant the interior ones not the exterior.
The headlights are AUTO OFF only in the US/Canada version. I wish for AUTO ON too.
The crossbars available in other markets, are rebadged Thule. I meant really OEM, customized for this car.
The upper part of the door panels give the interior a cheap look and they are prone to scratches; also the HVAC controls in the LS are "clicky" and on the cheap side. They would benefit from a bit of improvement. The other interior pieces I mentioned could definitely use some improvements too. Please note that I'm talking details here. Most people wouldn't notice some of them.
I know this car's details very well, as I literally studied it for months before I got it and now I drive it every day.
Despite the rather long wish list, I love it and I would buy it again over any other compact SUV in this class.
I forgot to mention that, in an ideal world, I would have liked to have few more horses - 240 hp and few more lb. ft. of torque. However, the current setup has enough power as far as I'm concerned.
Actually, I would have wanted the 2.4L petrol engine as a choice (which eventually will be offered, as rumored). Japan, and some markets have the 2.4L petrol engine as an option, and I bet it doesn't make a world of difference in terms of spirited driving. Though I wouldn't dream of towing a boat or a big trailer with it. I am after the greater mileage values a 2.4L engine would offer vs the 3.0L, now that we are hearing news of a possible 4$/gal of gas. Crazy, just plain crazy.
Daytime lights are running full-time already in US version. Is not it the same as AUTO ON? Or you expecting sensor activated lights?
>> The crossbars available in other markets, are rebadged Thule. I meant really OEM, customized for this car.
Take a look at my link. The 1st page of the catalog says "mitsu genuine parts" and you can find cross bars there.
>> The upper part of the door panels give the interior a cheap look and they are prone to scratches; also the HVAC controls in the LS are "clicky" and on the cheap side. They would benefit from a bit of improvement. The other interior pieces I mentioned could definitely use some improvements too.
I agree, and it's interesting that in Japan they already have chrome interior handles and door/dash wood trim available. My guess they will bring these to US at some point.
Now, the 220 HP in the Outlander is about right and has enough power to give me the performance I want with decent gas mileage. But a bit more power, with similar fuel economy would be nicer. This thread is about wishful thinking after all.
See the 3.0 V6 244 hp in the Honda Accord, with decent fuel economy as well.
As for most of the rest of the items posters have listed, give me a f'ing break - this is a Mits, not a g'damned BMW, Lexus, or MB. You want all those other things, add another 10 or 12k to the price. As far as I am concerned, Mitsu spent their money in the right places.
BTW - if you want a rear camera, parking sensors, heated washer fluid, auto lock doors, auto on headlights, repanelled plastic with matching leather, better sound deadening material etc., you can DIY for about a $1000 or less - for ALL these items. This Mits is one of the easiest vehicles to modify.
If you really want to be extravagent and add 20 inch rims and rubber, add another $2,000 to $2,500.
So how much more are you willing to pay now?
The crossbars in the Japanese brochure are Thule. Not sure if Mitsu put it's label on it or not, but I know in Australia they did not (it reads Thule) but in Italy they did. Regardless, it's the same accessory everywhere and they are the regular Thule crossbars. This is why the ends of the bars are sticking out since they are not specifically made for the Outlander.
The chrome door handles are not the problem - the Lancer ones fit as proved and showed by Biscuit_XLS on a different forum, but I would rather have the plastic ones, just painted silver same as the other silver interior trims. The door panels are slightly different in Europe, marginally better. I would be happier with a door panel that has few inches of hard, textured, plastic on top and some sort of sport mash fabric insert below. The suede-like fabric standard on the Outlander wouldn't be my first choice, but to keep the interior consistent it would be acceptable. Something along the lines in the new Lancer would be fine by me. Again, this is just wishful thinking.
I would like some extra features in my Outlander, and I would be willing perhaps to pay few hundred bucks more for them. Mods require money, time and skills, where the standard features require only money (sometime less than the mods).
I'm looking forward to reading the DIY post about how to add the AUTO ON/OFF headlights and the remote rear seats release in the cargo area. Both options are available stock on the Outlander in other markets as you know.
Did I mentioned that I would like to have the wiper blades de-icer? This is not a luxury feature by any means same as the others in my list.
BTW: I'm very happy with my Outlander the way it is, but I could be even happier with few more things. I think this is the human nature so nothing wrong with it I guess. Also, I don't think there is a perfect car out there at any price point so there is always room for improvements.
I don't believe anyone said otherwise. All references to heated mirrors, with one exception, referred specifically to Australian editions.
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If this is about standard features then you need to put it in the context of how much you are willing to pay. If you are only willing to pay a couple hundred bucks more, then perhaps a better way to phrase the question is "What would you like to see on next Outlander and what would you either be willing to pay OR be willing to give up in exchange for these features?"
As an example, if the biggest complaint is the plastic interior, the only options to change it are 1) pay more money or 2) give up something else 3) mod it yourself.
The question needs some context otherwise what's the point?
rdenis, "Mitsubishi Outlander" #513, 1 Mar 2007 11:04 pm#512
But it does not work on my american Otlander: I've tried. Have anyone?
It would be odd that they would offer heated mirrors in tropical Australia, but not in USA. There is nothing about heated mirrors on Australian site. The Mitsu UK site though indicates that heated door mirrors are standard on all models.
BTW, the Service Manual for Canada and US is the same which details this check procedure. All I can say for certain is the XLS AWD has them. If you have an XLS AWD and they don't work, go see your stealer. I can't speak for other models.
While I'm aware that this is an "unadvertised" feature of the car, I don't have any hard facts so far. It's not that I don't believe you, but due to this uncertainty generated buy Mitsu failing to include it in the specs, I will have to confirm that I have indeed this feature IN MY CAR.
I will have this chance pretty soon when I will have my left side mirror replaced.
In my list I only have features that can be found in the economy cars and even better, in the Outlander elsewhere.
Better door panels and HVAC controls are not out of reach and have nothing to do with the luxury either. I gave the 2008 Lancer as an example for the door panels. They are still hard plastic, but textured, therefore more resistant to scratches.
While I'm not into mods, I was serious when I said I would get the AUTO ON headlights if I could. This is the only thing I miss compared to my Mazda3. The other cosmetic things I can live without no problem and I know more accessories available in other markets will come over here too. It's just a matter of time.
Still, the Outlander is a great vehicle (the best in class as far as I'm concerned), and the way I see the posts in this thread is how to make it even better without departing from it's intended market place.
I do have XLS AWD. You right, there is decription of heated mirrors in manual! But it also says "when equipped", and I guess dealer does not have to fix an equipment, when equipment is optional and it's not in specs?
Could anybody with US purchased Outlander confirm working heated mirrors?
Yes, of course I am expecting to pay for extras, but most of these extras don't cost much. Think about it: how much would cost plastic "wood" trim and painted plastic handles, or rear digicam (added to existing navigation)? Digicams sold for $30 retail these days. I have lights with both motion and light censors for $5 each in my hallway - these censors cost nothing! Of course, they use little better qulity components in cars (I hope!), but this is not a cutting edge technology to cost a lot. And no need to compare to Lexus: my previuos car standard 2004 Camry XLE (purchased new for $20K) had dash/door wood trim, doors with padding, chrome interior door handles, auto-lock doors, illuminated vanity mirrors, compass, power seats, home link, auto-dimming mirror, sunglass compartment. These are not luxury features at all, but still Otlander came short on most of these.
btw, for another $12k these "luxury" Lexus RX350 and BMW X3 in standard configuration don't even come with leather.
And for these extra $12k standard Lex and X3 have no 6-speed shiftable auto tranny + paddle shifters, no 18" tires, FastKey, keyless ignition, bluetooth, LED rear lights, 6 CD stereo with MP3, roof rails... but the standard Outlander XLS does have it all! Now, I guess, as a surprise easter egg, it even comes with heated mirrors?!