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Chrysler Town and Country overheating
My engine temp will rise to High at random times requiring me to run the heater on high to get the engine cooled down. Using the A/C seems to accelerate the overheating, but it happens without the A/c on as well and it happens randomly. Parts store said might be a cooling fan problem or cooling fan sensor issue. I don't think the cooling fan was running when it was overheating (couldn't hear it), but it was at night and I couldn't see in that area.
No coolant leaks, coolant level is adequate, cap appears fine - no leaks - and there's heat coming out of heater so I believe the thermostat seems ok. Does anyone know what the issue might be or how I'd troubleshoot it or fix it?
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How to Troubleshoot an Overheating Engine
No coolant leaks, coolant level is adequate, cap appears fine - no leaks - and there's heat coming out of heater so I believe the thermostat seems ok. Does anyone know what the issue might be or how I'd troubleshoot it or fix it?
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How to Troubleshoot an Overheating Engine
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Does it over heat in cooler temps.?
1) Check the fuses for the cooling fans.
2) When you see the temperature gauge going up to hot. Pull over, open the hood and see if the cooling fan is going. (If not, it might be the coolant temp. sensor.)
3) With the van running in Park, at idle speed, turn on the AC and see if the cooling fans are running. (Both fans should run all the time when using the AC.)
4) Make sure there is nothing blocking the flow of air through the cooling coils in the radiator. Sometimes you might have to run the garden hose over the cooling coils to rinse away all dirt and lent build up.
5) You can check the top radiator hose when the van is cold, to see if the thermostat is opening up and not stock closed. When you first start the van, let it run in Park at idle. As you see the temp. gauge going up, feel the top radiator hose to see if it is getting warm/hot. If it is still cold, then the thermostat has not opened yet to allow the coolant to flow thru the radiator to be cooled. If you see the temp. gauge going past the halfway point and the top hose is still on the cool side, it might be the thermostat :shades:
Has anyone had transmission problems with this model (2002 T & C)
At this point I would recommend a full visual inspection of hoses, clamps, gaskets, radiator cap, and engine oil. "Wet" areas on hoses, clamps, radiator cap, or gaskets may point to the area of failure, though it may be something that currently requires higher-than-idle RPMs to manifest itself. Frothiness or coolant in the engine oil would point to a failed head gasket or cracked block, though I have not heard that to be a common occurrence in these engines.
The on-and-off of the heater may point to a faulty thermostat. When your engine heats up and stabilizes at 1/2 on the guage, feel your upper radiator hose - it should be warm/hot to the touch. If it remains cold or goes warm then cold, then the thermostat is likely bad.
Did your radiator's cooling fans come on at all while it was idling?
If all of this yields nothing, you may need to add coolant to the system again and wait until it manifests once more.
I am not sure I would consider a cracked block at this point. Did you check your engine oil for any contamination?
It may be worthwhile to replace the thermostat just as a matter of caution, but the fact that the heater core goes cool leads me to think that it is a circulation issue and that means either: 1) thermostat, 2) water pump, or 3) blockage (air or debris).
Any of these could cause intermittent problems unless one has completely failed.
The main tip-off: when it was overheating, the fans weren't running.... even when AC was turned on. Everything else was operating normally and there were no other inidcators such as cracked blocks, plugged thermonstats etc.
ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING:COOLING SYSTEM:FAN
TSB #98771 -- THE RADIATOR FAN RELAY MAY NOT TURN ON THE RADIATOR COOLING FANS, CAUSING ENGINE TO OVERHEAT. *AK (NHTSA ID #601474, MAY 01 1998)
TSB #183397 -- SUBJECT REGARDING IMPROPER COOLING FAN RELAY ACTUATION. *YC (NHTSA ID #600488, DECEMBER 31 1997)
Upon start up, the engine runs fine. The needle on the engine temperature gauage remains at the bottom, at "C" for at least 5 to 10 mins. Then it slow increases to the 1/4 mark. Then within 1 minute it shoots up the the 7/8 mark close to the "H". (The first few times this happened I shut off the vehicle). However, now I found that after another 5 minutes, the needle lowers back down to the "just below the 1/2 way" mark.
At the same time, my cabin heat stopped functioning correctly. Related? Perhaps.
I can't get any heat in the cabin unless I'm traveling at least 40 mph. Therefore while driving through town, there is not heat. On the highway, I have all the heat I want. However after slowing back down to below 40 mph, the vehicle begins blowing cold air again.
Since I take my children to school in the morning, they are freezing the whole way. I don't dare turn on the heat since it only blows cold air, but instead I've given them blankets. After dropping them off, I hit the highway to get to work, and then I'm warm and toasty!
Let me know what you think,
Chaz
If it is the water pump, the lack of heat and the overheating will be simultaneous even though you are topped off on fluid. Without the water pump circulating the coolant, the heater core will go cold while the stuff in the engine boils (if hot enough!).
THERE IS A TSB ON THESE VEHICLES, HERE IS THE LINK TO LOOK IT UP AS WELL AS RECALLS: http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/recalls/recallsearch.cfm
SEARCH FOR THE COOLING RELAY BULLETIN ON YOUR TOWN AND COUNTRY MINI-VAN USING THE SEARCH ENGINE PROVIDED BY THE OFFICE OF DEFECTS INVESTIGATION.
IN MY 1998 GRAND CARAVAN, THE COOLING RELAY WAS DEFECTIVE, THEY HAVE REPLACED MINE 8 TIMES AT NO CHARGE, THE 9TH TIME, THEY, (CRYSTAL DODGE IN CRYSTAL RIVER, FL), SAID IT IS NOT A "LIFETIME RECALL". I DID FIND OUT THAT THE COOLING RELAY SHORTS OUT DUE TO THE HIGH AMPAGE OF THE FAN MODULE, ONCE I REPLACED THE FAN MODULE, I HAVE HAD NO OVERHEATING, WHICH PRIORLY IT HAD DONE 9 TIMES THAT I WAS AWARE OF.
HERE IS A COPY OF THE TSB FROM THE OFFICE OF DEFECTS INVESTIGATION:
Manufacturer : CHRYSLER LLC
Service Bulletin Number : 98771 Date of Bulletin : MAY 01, 1998
NHTSA Item Number : 601474
Component : ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING:COOLING SYSTEM:FAN
Summary :
THE RADIATOR FAN RELAY MAY NOT TURN ON THE RADIATOR COOLING FANS, CAUSING ENGINE TO OVERHEAT. *AK
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Service Bulletin Number : 2302007 Date of Bulletin : SEP 27, 2007
NHTSA Item Number : 10022182
Component : STRUCTURE:BODY:DOOR:HINGE AND ATTACHMENTS
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POWER SLIDING DOOR ADJUSTMENT AND DIAGNOSIS AID. *KB UPDATED 10/26/07. *NJ
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Service Bulletin Number : 1400207 Date of Bulletin : APR 05, 2007
NHTSA Item Number : 10021668
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CLEANING PROCEDURE FOR THE MECHANICAL THROTTLE BODY. *KB
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Service Bulletin Number : 0500106A Date of Bulletin : SEP 23, 2006
NHTSA Item Number : 10020494
Component : SERVICE BRAKES, AIR
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SNOW/WATER INGESTION INTO REAR BRAKE DRUM. *KB
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Service Bulletin Number : 0803006 Date of Bulletin : AUG 25, 2006
NHTSA Item Number : 10021239
Component : POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
Summary :
POWERTRAIN CONTROL MODULE INITIALIZATION. *KB
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Service Bulletin Number : 0500305 Date of Bulletin : MAR 09, 2006
NHTSA Item Number : 10019632
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SNOW/WATER INGESTION INTO REAR BRAKE DRUM. *TT
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Service Bulletin Number : 1900805 Date of Bulletin : NOV 02, 2005
NHTSA Item Number : 10017651
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REVISED POWER STEERING SYSTEM BLEEDING PROCEDURES. *SC
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Service Bulletin Number : 58 Date of Bulletin : NOV 01, 2005
NHTSA Item Number : 10019015
Component : SEATS:FRONT ASSEMBLY:SEAT HEATER/COOLER
Summary :
THE FRONT SEAT ELECTRIC HEATER ELEMENTS MAY FATIGUE AND CAUSE LOCALIZED OVERHEATING AND/OR DISCOLORATION OF THE SEAT COVER SURFACE. CUSTOMER SATISFACTION NOTIFICATION D58 - HEATED SEAT ELEMENTS. *TT
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Service Bulletin Number : 2100903 Date of Bulletin : OCT 02, 2005
NHTSA Item Number : 10003524
Component : POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
Summary :
AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION DIAGNOSTIC TEARDOWN PROCEDURE. VARIOUS MODELS INCLUDING THE 2004 RAM TRUCK, DURANGO, SEBRING CONVERTIBLE, CHEROKEE, VISION, NEON, AND VOYAGER. *TT *SC
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NHTSA Item Number : 10003546
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STEERING SHUDDER. *TT
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Service Bulletin Number : 0500204 Date of Bulletin : JUN 21, 2005
NHTSA Item Number : 10005996
Component : SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC:FOUNDATION COMPONENTS:DRUM
Summary :
SNOW/WATER INGESTION INTO REAR BRAKE DRUM. *TT
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Service Bulletin Number : 0200405 Date of Bulletin : MAY 27, 2005
NHTSA Item Number : 10016751
Component : SUSPENSION:FRONT:MACPHERSON STRUT
Summary :
CREAKING/SQUAWKING SOUND FROM FRONT STRUT AREA. *TT
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Service Bulletin Number : 1802505 Date of Bulletin : MAY 25, 2005
NHTSA Item Number : 10016750
Component : ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING:ENGINE
Summary :
LONG CRANK OR IDLE FLUCATION IN COLD TEMPERATURE WITH E20 - E30 ETHANOL FUEL BLENDS. *TT
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Service Bulletin Number : 0200305 Date of Bulletin : MAR 16, 2005
NHTSA Item Number : 10013699
Component : SUSPENSION
Summary :
RATTLE/KNOCKING SOUND FROM THE FRONT SUSPENSION. *SC
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Service Bulletin Number : 0801505 Date of Bulletin : MAR 02, 2005
NHTSA Item Number : 10013731
Component : POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION:CONTROL MODULE (TCM, PCM)
Summary :
POWERTRAIN CONTROL MODULE INITIALIZATION. *SC
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Service Bulletin Number : 0500404 Date of Bulletin : DEC 03, 2004
NHTSA Item Number : 10011941
Component : SERVICE BRAKES, AIR:ANTILOCK:WHEEL SPEED SENSOR
Summary :
ANTI-LOCK BRAKE REAR WHEEL SPEED SENSOR REPLACEMENT. *TT
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Service Bulletin Number : 2301004 Date of Bulletin : SEP 09, 2004
NHTSA Item Number : 10006965
Component : STRUCTURE:BODY
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PASSENGER COMPARTMENT FLOOR WATER LEAK. *TT THIS BULLETIN SUPERSEDES BULLETIN 23-010-04 DATED 04-29-04. *TT
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Service Bulletin Number : 2101807 Date of Bulletin : OCT 27, 2007
NHTSA Item Number : 10023420
Component : POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION:CONTROL MODULE (TCM, PCM)
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1-2 AND/OR 2-3 SHIFT HARNESS. ERASING AND REPROGRAMMING THE POWERTRAIN CONTROL MODULE WITH NEW SOFTWARE IS NECESSARY. *KB
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Service Bulletin Number : 2302007 Date of Bulletin : SEP 27, 2007
NHTSA Item Number : 10022182
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POWER SLIDING DOOR ADJUSTMENT AND DIAGNOSIS AID. *KB UPDATED 10/26/07. *NJ
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Service Bulletin Number : 1802907 Date of Bulletin : APR 26, 2007
NHTSA Item Number : 10021684
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GENERIC POWERTRAIN CONTROL MODULE (PCM) PROCEDURE. *KB
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Service Bulletin Number : 1400207 Date of Bulletin : APR 05, 2007
NHTSA Item Number : 10021668
Component : FUEL SYSTEM, GASOLINE
Summary :
CLEANING PROCEDURE FOR THE MECHANICAL THROTTLE BODY. *KB
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Service Bulletin Number : 2200406 Date of Bulletin : OCT 04, 2006
NHTSA Item Number : 10021247
Component : TIRES:PRESSURE MONITORING AND REGULATING SYSTEMS
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TIRE PRESSURE MONITOR SYSTEM INFORMATION. *KB
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Service Bulletin Number : 0500106A Date of Bulletin : SEP 23, 2006
NHTSA Item Number : 10020494
Component : SERVICE BRAKES, AIR
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SNOW/WATER INGESTION INTO REAR BRAKE DRUM. *KB
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POWERTRAIN CONTROL MODULE INITIALIZATION. *KB
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Service Bulletin Number : 2301206 Date of Bulletin : JUN 03, 2006
NHTSA Item Number : 10020046
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3RD ROW SEAT FRONT LEG WILL NOT RETRACT. *TT
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Service Bulletin Number : 06 Date of Bulletin : APR 01, 2006
NHTSA Item Number : 10019905
Component : ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING:COOLING SYSTEM:HOSE
Summary :
LEAKING COOLANT AT THE HEATER TUBE CRIMPS. CUSTOMER SATISFACTION NOTIFICATION F06 - UNDERBODY HEATER HOSES. *TT
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Summary :
SNOW/WATER INGESTION INTO REAR BRAKE DRUM. *TT
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Service Bulletin Number : 2301704 Date of Bulletin : FEB 25, 2006
NHTSA Item Number : 10007917
Component : STRUCTURE:BODY
Summary :
3RD ROW SEAT FRONT LEG WILL NOT RETRACT. *MJ *TT
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Service Bulletin Number : 01 Date of Bulletin : FEB 01, 2006
NHTSA Item Number : 10019543
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Summary :
THE UNDERBODY REAR A/C AND HEATER TUBE MOUNTING BRACKETS MAY HAVE INSUFFICIENT CORROSION PROTECTION - CUSTOMER SATISFACTION NOTIFICATION F01. *TT
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Service Bulletin Number : 0803205 Date of Bulletin : JAN 03, 2006
NHTSA Item Number : 10016171
Component : AIR BAGS
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DAIMLERCHRYSLER CORPORATION IS NOW OFFERING A PASSENGER AIRBAG DEACTIVATION WIRING PACKAGE. TO INCLUDE 2006 CHRYSLER TOWN AND COUNTRY AND 300/TOURING. *TT
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Service Bulletin Number : 0900105 Date of Bulletin : DEC 10, 2005
NHTSA Item Number : 10013774
Component : ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING
Summary :
CYLINDER HEAD BOLT RE-TORQUE PROCEDURE. GPOP - ISSUE REVIEW SYSTEM. *TT
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Service Bulletin Number : 2200205 Date of Bulletin : DEC 07, 2005
NHTSA Item Number : 10018985
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TIRE PRESSURE MONITOR - SYSTEM INFORMATION. *TT
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Service Bulletin Number : 2102205 Date of Bulletin : NOV 04, 2005
NHTSA Item Number : 10018572
Component : POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
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INACCURATE SPEEDOMETER. *AK
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I have a 2001 town and country that is leaking coolent. Hose seem to be fine looks like it leaking on the passanger side behind the fire wall, there are 2 rusted out metal pipes, you can tell it leaking from there. It don't look like to big if a problem to replace if i could just figure out what they are called i always thought they were called heating tubes, anyone know?
THANKS
Ps:I' ll think about it before buying a Chrystler next time.
thank u for the info
GAMBOA
If the fans never come on when the engine is beginning to get hot, like when the engine sits idling for 10 mins or more, then there's a good chance the fan relay may be the problem. The relay was less than $15 a year ago and it took about 30min to replace and I was figuring it out as I went. Locating the relay (on the car) was my biggest problem.
Sometimes the fan and it's motor are able to be repaired. I've done that twice on one of my cars. But, it takes some time and patience, and there is no guarantee. Also, probably not worth the money if you have to pay someone to do it.
Fan relay may be OK. Hard to say from your description of the symptoms.
I too was having non cycling engine fans. Thank you all for your great advise. Just needed a fuse. Experts sharing their knowledge makes the web an awesome tool/manual. God's best for you all, always.
where is the cooling fan relay at? My cooling fans aren't working either, and they are brand new, and what is the "jumper" that you guys are talking about? Thank you For your help
I have the same problem as hp3". I started off by changing the radiator cap, then cleaned the bugs and dirt etc off the radiator, No luck. I then replaced the relay box/house cause I thought my fans wasn't working properly etc, and the guy tested it and it seemed to not be working by the indication of the lights on this lil tool thing that looks like a screw driver. Still no luck. I noticed a lil leak under the thermostat, so he replaced the thermostat and the gasket because it was said that it wasn't properly on which caused it to leak. No luck! It still runs hot. So both fans come on when parked in idle once I cut the AC on. After I cut the Ac off the fan stays on a lil longer but then they got louder as if they gonna go out? so I think they are working properly?
So I check everything you said to check. I did noticed the gauge going up at a faster pace then before. So I then pulled over and cut the van off. At that point the fans stopped running unlike usually when I cut the van off. Usually they continue running for a bit then cut off. But not anymore. So I check/squeezed on the top radiator hose and its steaming hot and hard as if its full of water is, not flowing. Feels like the hose is gonna burst I also I hear bubbling noise, as if the water is boiling and just got turned off to cool down. Please help!