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  • badulahbadulah Posts: 961
    I'M BACK!!! From now on you can just call me the "Tan Man". I havn't been this tan since my surfing days back in college.

    I'm glad to hear that everyone is doing well. I'm also glad to hear from all of these new members!!

    It stinks to be back at work, but it's good to be back with the CSG.
  • malibumalibu Posts: 155
    Badulah: Welcome Back! Sounds like you had a great vacation. If we could only find a way to vacation year round and work 2 weeks a year!
    Welcome to all the new members! We hope you enjoy your Cougars as much as we do. Any info you need re: your cats can be found here. We have some very knowledgable folks here.

    Palm Springs was great...I actually got Max up to 100! on hwy 10 at @8:00 at night there was noone around. The few cars there were crusing at about 90 so I wasn't too obvious. I just had to try it to see how it felt. Very smooth I couldn't even tell I was going that fast. I sure couldn't do that in the old 4-runner. On the way home I was at a signal when a new silver corvette pulled up next to me, rolled down the window (mine were down) and yelled "nice car" I was shocked. I said thanks and he sped off. I thought it was pretty cool that a guy in such a nice car would compliment Max like that.

    Overall the trip was great, 5 1/2 hours very comfortabe, 28.4 mpg avg. speed 80. stared about 100! a couple showoffs wanting to race I just smiled and let em go by!
  • benisembenisem Posts: 30
    Well, my kitty needs a new catalytic converter. I just got the call from service. The service rep told me I could continue to drive my car, does this sound logical and harmless?

  • badulahbadulah Posts: 961
    That makes sense. The check engine light is connected to the exhaust system. If one of the sensors or exhaust pieces is bad, it could cause the light to come on. I don't see any harm in driving it. But then again i'm not a mechanic.

    Anyone else on this issue?
  • badulahbadulah Posts: 961
    Just as a note, the web site has been updated slightly. CSG Decals are now available in the catalog section.

  • spartan93spartan93 Posts: 16
    If your mechanic is telling you they cannot repeat the symptom, they should allow (if not recommend) you drive/ride with them. Some causes may only show themselves under certain driving conditions and/or styles. Someone who drives a particular vehicle all the time is far more conscious of changes (not having air guns blasting in your ear all day helps, too).
  • blaneblane Posts: 2,017

    Thanks. Anyone want some bulbs?
  • badulahbadulah Posts: 961
    Happy Birthday to you, Happy Birthday to you, Happy Birthday dear Benisem, Happy Birthday to you!!!!!!
  • benisembenisem Posts: 30
    Thanks Badulah. I hope you all have a good day. I am taking my kitten for a short haul this afternoon and I am really looking forward to it. Hope everyone has a great weekend, my dance card is filled!
  • coolchickcoolchick Posts: 174
    Hi everyone!

    Just back from a short vacation. 750 miles on my kitty, and poor Adelaide is grungy with road grime and it's going to rain all weekend so I won't have a chance to clean her up until Monday.

    Had that little wrench light up in the ceiling indicators, so rushed to look it up in the manual. Just telling me to get the 5000 mile service done -- which I had done at 4600 miles, but they didn't reset the light. Oh well.

    Congrats to the new kitty owners!

    Oh, and I found a good home for my old Cutlass, so it was a profitable trip all in all.
  • jayhawk5jayhawk5 Posts: 70
    Well, my cougar barely escaped with it's life last night. I was picking up a friend at the airport, and waiting in a line of cars to pick up my parking ticket. All of a sudden, the woman in front of me started backing up. When I realized that she was not going to stop, and back into me, it was too late. I laid on the horn, but she bumped into me anyway. I felt sick to my stomach, and feared the worst for my cat. Fortunately, the license plate holder in the front of the car saved me. The only thing that got dented was my license plate. The amazing thing was that I had my regular lights AND my fog lights on at the time (it was dark) and was honking like a maniac! The woman insisted she couldn't see my lights, but I think she was just trying to cover up her mistake. And get this- she didn't even apologize!!! Unbelievable. It's amazing how little people pay attention to their own driving these days. Maybe it's just DC, but I'm completely scared to drive anywhere with my cougar, and I'm a great driver, it's 85% of everyone else around here that scares me. Anyhow, thanks for letting me vent. Happy cougaring!
  • coolchickcoolchick Posts: 174
    Jayhawk - glad to hear that you & your kitty are okay. I know what you mean about DC drivers!
  • mouse409mouse409 Posts: 34
    Check out "Sport Compact Car' magazine this month, has a factory blown Cougar (275 hp), they love it. Nice looking car, would be nice to have one for us civilians. One of the fastest cars they have ever tested. And as we all know a great handling car also.
  • coolchickcoolchick Posts: 174
    Badulah -

    How's the collection for the CSG website going? Do we need to dig a little deeper?
  • dgeminidgemini Posts: 161
    I read the article. I was impressed with how well it was written, except for the fact that they had to say the Elimator was a muscle car.
    It was almost as if they were saying it isn't refined enough to compete against the imports.

    I guess the one problem I have is that you would expect a car with 275 horses to get better than a 6.2 0-60 time. However, SCC did admit they probably could have posted better times if they would have taken of in 2nd gear.
  • jimbo_gjimbo_g Posts: 53
    Ok guys,
    As Christina Agulera would say, "I Turn To You" guys in a time of need.. I'm negotiating a deal on a 2000 Cougar (the Yellow sun and fun pkg actually) Been negotiating over the phone primarily as my sporadic work schedule permits. Anyhoo MSRP is $21,700 they wanna sell it to me for invoice which is $19,519. (the sales manager at my work is friends with the sales manager ther and got them down to invoice forme, originally they copped the whole "it's a special edition, very rare" crap on me and wouldn't budge alot off of MSRP)

    OK my question is 1 are there any current rebates or anything and 2 if so can they be applied to the invoice price in turn getting me the car for UNDER invoice. I am curious because it is my understanding that the rebates come from FORD so the dealership doesn't lose money by selling for invoice and then slapping a rebate on top of that.

    Waiting and Wondering,
  • fredlyfredly Posts: 201
    $400 recent college graduate? recent means in the last year
    Tell them ok Invoice, but no advertising charge, and to throw in
    Oil changes for a year :) hehe.

    Are you ordering this or is it sitting on the lot?
    if its on the lot getting it for invoice is pretty good
    ordering a car at invoice is pretty easy.
  • fredlyfredly Posts: 201
    I was thinking (uh-oh its ok I put out the fire) Now most of us cougarites enjoy and love our cars, there are well established groups dedicated to this car a single model, now I know you are not allowed to comment openly on the future of this great looking beast. But how does FMC view an event such as Cougarfest? Surely 70+ Escort, or Probe owners don't show up at the factory yearly to celebrate ownership of such a car, I can think of only a couple cars that I know of that get recognized by FMC, mostly they are the SVT branded ones
    and they get track days and stuff. I know a few things that could come from cougarfest.

    1. FMC will actually see more of the demographic they missed, perhaps taking notes while we are there, who knows.

    2. FMC could use it as great advertizing, what company wouldn't...(free "real" people) sure we aren't saturn owners standing where we got in accidents(probably cause the cat can avoid them better) but hey we love the cars.

    3. FMC does hope that our love will die out for the car, so we don't show up again? iiick I hope not.


    So you see, I'm just curious as to how FMC views 70 Drivers coming to the factory, this isn't a normality in the industry, right? aside from some corvette drivers who are invited down
    to drive their cars off the line... hey now there is an idea. :)
    Me Personally would view this with open arms, FMC can hardly expect to have Disgruntled drivers showing up we are all(most) happy :)...heh as most of the problems don't occur here, but rather the middle man we call dealers...(on a side note, I may have good news about my dealership, stay tuned)
    well i'll stop rambling its late, and now its your turn MWS....
  • chicky43chicky43 Posts: 2
    Hi everyone! Please bear with me, as I'm new at this... :)

    I fell in love with the Cougar a couple of months ago; I had been trying to get the local Nissan dealerships to treat me like a human being and let me know on the availability of a 2K Sentra SE. AFter being given the runaround and the usual dealer questions (you want a stick? don't you know that sticks are inherently bad? SE, XE--same thing! what do you know? why are you so adamant on a 2K? a '99 is the same thing! We JUST SOLD an SE stick, and I don't lie!), I test drove the Cougar on a whim and, well, haven't looked back since! I believe I have found a decent dealer (he actually took the time to explain the car to me, and didn't just read the monroney sticker like a jerk), and I"m pretty sure the service department is okay (I work with service departments all the time on my job, and I haven't heard many complaints about them). Now I'm just waiting on my savings to grow (I want to put down a fat down payment) and to be pre-approved for a loan.

    Now after all of that, here are my questions to all of you: are there any issues particular to the cougar i should be aware of before going in for negotiations? I've been reading up and down Edmunds how they might discontinue the thing, and sure enough some of them are slow sellers on the local lots. How close to invoice have you guys purchased your Cats? Do any of you miss having a back seat? Is the liftover as high as I fear for the trunk? Are those cupholders a pain? (I've seen the redesigned ones for the later part of this year--nice. But I'll probably have to dealer swap for mine since I'm so picky, and I don't know what I'll get.)

    Sorry so long, and sorry so many questions. Thanks for listening (reading?) my long diatribe! :)
  • badulahbadulah Posts: 961
    So far three members have sent in donations. Joe and I are working hard to get things settled for the new web space and we are also working on several CSG items we would like to offer to members on line. Donations are still needed at this time. If anyone would like to contribute to the future of the CSG, please send your donation to:

    Cougar Support Group
    Po Box 41
    Hawthorne, NJ

    We will soon have a CSG bank account, but until I get that established, make all checks payable to me (Robert J. Kibler). Also, please include your name, address and screen name. Any and all donation are very much appreciated.

    CSG decals are also on sale for $5.00 each. Be sure to include your name, address and screen name along with your order.
  • forbinforbin Posts: 2
    I've been reading some questions about incentives and the like, so I thought I would finally post something here. (and besides, I picked the car up yesterday).

    There is now a $1500 incentive on the 2000 model. I placed my order in April when it was $1000, and made $500 for just waiting around.

    I actually purchased my car 350 miles away. I was "home" visiting my family on vacation when I wandered into a Mercury dealer. I took the test drive and was ready to thank them for their time and leave when the salesman informed me that if my father (who was along for the ride) or I could present a Sam's Club card, he could sell me the Cougar for 1% over invoice. Dad had the card, I had my list of options and their invoice prices (thanks to Edmunds), and don't you know they offered me the car for the 1%!

    I knew I was going to buy a Cougar because I had been charging my life away on a former Ford, now Driver's Edge VISA card (I'm not exactly a Mustang kinda guy). So this was another $2000 I could take off of the price!

    The financing guy even found me a loan better than anything I could come up with myself (%7.99).

    It was a good experience.
    DOAN Lincoln/Mercury in Rochester (Greece) NY.

    I'll save the "drive your day old car 380 miles so you can be at work on Monday" story for later.
  • gustafscgustafsc Posts: 361
    Welcome aboard, neat story, looking forward to the next one.

    Skip G,
  • badulahbadulah Posts: 961

    Like Skip said, neat story!!

    When you get a chance, be sure to check out our web site at:
  • malibumalibu Posts: 155
    You have come to the right place for your questions, everyone here has had all sorts of different experiences buying their cougars at many different dealers. The backseat is not bad for such a sporty car. I personally haven't spent much time back their since it's my car but my daughter loves riding back there. She is 12 and 5'6". She fits fine. I have taken her and a friend many places and they don't mind. If you check under incentives it will give you the latest rebates and interest rates. I got my loan on May 26th, and instead of the 1,500 rebate I took the 6.9 interest. I ordered my car on Feb. 28th and they didn't have any rebates at that time. by the time I did the paperwork I got the good interest. And I didn't even get the car until June 1st. Be sure to do your own research before going to the dealer, especially when your a woman, they think your clueless. Good Luck!
  • forbinforbin Posts: 2
    So I had no choice but to be at "work" today because I am the only person in charge of teaching 45 eight and nine year olds how to play their instruments for the first time. (A summer music program).
    I thought about not using cruise control at all in order to vary my speed, but laziness and a tendency to drive too fast/slow according to the song on the CD eliminated that possibility. So I figured 20 min. intervals of speed might be OK. I may have been wrong. I think (hope) the problem I experienced was more cruise-control related than engine related. Let me know what you think:
    On downhills, the cruise tries to maintain a lower speed and actually downshifts itself for a second (only revving up about 4-600rpm). Uphills aren't great either, but they rarely are in cruise. The downhill stuff concerns me. I received a check-up call from my salesman today, so when he reaches me, I'll be asking about it.
    Anyway with only about 450 total miles on the engine, my car got to experience a 40 minute wait for the upper level George Washington Bridge, a brief section of road hell on the Cross Bronx (I found out that everything was attached correctly), and a 20 minute wait at the Triboro before I returned to my Island paradise.
    I'm VERY happy with the car. Glad there's not a lot of green in "spruce green" (I think it looks pretty damn good actually). And once the CC problem is taken care of, everything should be way cool.
    Thanks for the welcomes.

  • coolchickcoolchick Posts: 174

    I just got the mail and my CSG check was sent back marked "No such address."

    PO Box 4
    Hawthorne NJ 07430

    That's the address, Right???? (Geez, I hope I didn't copy it down embarrassing!)
  • fish8fish8 Posts: 2,282
    Glad to hear you like your Cat!!!!

    Hi All: I got back from a business trip yesterday and spent some time today catching up on all the posts. I was in Palm Springs, Ca Fri-Sun and it was HOT!!!!!! I am glad to see everyone is enjoying their summer.....later
  • fish8fish8 Posts: 2,282
    When I was in the LA area last week I saw no less than 20-25 Cougars. They must be selling great on the west coast. I also saw alot of PT Cruisers. Interesting I thought.....
  • coolchickcoolchick Posts: 174

    Never mind. I went to the CSG site and got the correct address off of there.

    Sheesh! Apparently it's time to take my brain in for servicing!
  • malibumalibu Posts: 155
    I was in Palm Springs last weekend..yes it was hot, but I love it. I'm assuming you didn't drive there, but if you had or ever get the chance, Hwy 10 is great! very wide, very little traffic and what is there travels about 80-90 mph. Yes there are quite a few cats in LA, as I drove through coming home I saw quite a few.
    I went to my dealer yesterday to car shop with a friend, pulled up and what is sitting in front of the service dept. gate but a back special edition cougar like mine! I about died. My dealer assured me it wasn't from around here, he didn't sell it and when we looked at the tags it was bought in January. It didn't have the chrome rims like mine or the dash kit. It was FILTHY! I felt sorry for it, there was food wrappers all over inside and it looked like it had been driven through many mud hasn't rained here in a long long time. It also had an auto trans. After looking closely at it I didn't feel so threatened! Max was clean as a whistle inside and out! my neighbor says I'm the only person he knows who washes there car twice a week...please tell me someone else out there is that obsessive.
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