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  • lmigliorelmigliore Posts: 148
    My left leg is healing and the doctor allowed me to put some weight on it, so I tried moving my car after 6 weeks. Fortunately, the cat started right up. I was able to get around the block and shift a few times before the leg started to complain. Everything in its time, I guess.

    The cat is spectacularly dirty since it's been out for 6 weeks; I think I need to take it to a car wash so I can see out the windshield. There's nothing better looking than a clean black Cougar, but a dirty black Cougar with pine needles all over is a horrendous sight. Good thing there's wax between the paint and the crud.
  • gustafscgustafsc Posts: 361
    Welcome home, and "Well Done"!!

    Skip G.
  • ccavsmanccavsman Posts: 4
    Recently, the last 3 days, when I start the car,
    all my instruments(speedo, tach, etc.) spike.
    The car is not spiking itself though. This morning
    it wouldn't start right away, felt like a power, or starter problem. Finally after a couple turns of the key it started, and spiked. Runs fine. Any
    body have that experience?
  • lmigliorelmigliore Posts: 148
    Bleak, bleak, bleak. Cosmic debris.
  • heyenheyen Posts: 2
    I've got a 2000 cat and in the last 2 days, the instrument cluster has spiked. The needles on the tach and speedo go all the way over and then back down. car sounds great and runs fine. Called the dealer, they say it's normal (I'm 98% sure it's never done this before in 3 yrs), but if it keeps it up, bring it in!!!but it's normal;)
    this only happens at startup.
    anyone have any thoughts on this?
  • blaneblane Posts: 2,017

    My '99 Cat has never "spiked" the needles in the last 41,000 miles. IT'S NOT NORMAL. Make the dealer do his job correctly with a proper diagnosis.
  • GutsyGutsy Posts: 13
    Thought I'd give this post a try before going to the dealer to have them program a new remote for my 99 cougar. My son lost the remote, and I just purchased a new one. The parts manager said to to follow the instructions in the manual to program it. Well.. there are no instructions in the manual.

    Does this have to be done by the dealer ... or is there a way for me to do it?

    Any help to save me $80 or more fopr the dealer to program the new remote I purchased would be appreciated!

  • Hi people, have not checked in for a long time. Where's the Badman and Lefty? My cat (99) just turned 22k.

    I noticed a couple of old names, and a lot of new ones. Oh-well just checking in.
  • This group has slowed to a crawl, as you can see by checking the dates of previous posts. Your '99 has even fewer miles than mine (34K). Keep it on blocks for the winter?

    I guess we drive special non-interest cars now.
  • yes Imigliore its on blocks in the winter. We drive a "Hot" Subaru in the winter. Actually it has been a very good car.

    I sure do miss the old group though. Lake Placid and Lime Rock was a blast!!! Ah for the old days can't believe my 99 is 4 years old, and only one small dent (which has been fixed) and a scratched wheel (been replaced) @ $330. But I now have a spare wheel!!!

  • krnchkrnch Posts: 127
    Nice to hear from you, Mouse. I stop by here every couple of weeks just to see if any of the old group have posted. Havn't seen lefty or badulah post in years. Literally.
  • gustafscgustafsc Posts: 361
    Well, I guess that you could say, that after 4-5 years, the new enthusiasm wears off and the cat becomes a daily driver. A fun daily driver, but still your normal ride.

    I wish I could say that I haven't had much of a problem, but for a while, I though that I had big Bulls Eyes painted on the car. The only original body parts left are, the hood, two front fenders, roof, and passenger door. Everything elese has been replaced. Good thing that my dealer's body shop is good and the car looks just fine and runs straight.

    Another problem that could have gotten expensive except for, "A one time warranty adjustment", was the failure of my front wheel bearings. You know, the lifetime sealed bearings that never need greasing. Started getting a low groaning noise with the steering off center or making gentle turns. Thought it might be a problem with the power steering, but NO!! I wound up paying a $200 deductable and FMC took care of the rest.

    Took a nice little vacation wandering around in Wisconsin a couple of weeks ago. Did about 750mi in 9 days and averaged 27.8MPG. Not too bad.

    As for socializing, I did make the Y2K Cougarfest @ Flat Rock. Had a good time and enjoyed meeting other owners and enthusiasts.


    Skip G.
  • I have a 2002 Cougar that hasn't given me any problems in the 20 months that I have owned it. Two days ago the car stalled at a stop sign. When my mechanic tried to fix it, it appeared to have a totally dead battery and the starter wasn't working. When he replaced both the engine blew thowing a rod threw the oil pan! It appears that engine was locked up and having the new starter did the final damage. I'm 4K miles over the 36K warranty but think that Ford should help bear the cost of fixing this mess. The car has had the oil changed regularly and has had zero problems up to now.

    Has any one ever heard of a fairly new Cougar having a blown engine?

    Any one have any ideas on how to get leverage with Ford to warrant the repair?

    Looking for some ideas.

  • gustafscgustafsc Posts: 361
    As a suggestion, talk to your service manager at the dealer first and give him the complete story. If you don't get any satisfaction, the next step would be the regional service rep.

    With any luck, they'll work out the same kind of "One time adjustment" that I got. It acts like the extended warranty with a $200 deductable.

    If you've been working with the dealer from the start, they'll be more likely to take care of you. If they havn't seen you since you took the car off the lot, the chances may change. Having the thing go bad while at another mechanic's shop might not help either.

    Good Luck!!!

    Skip G.
  • fish8fish8 Posts: 2,282
    I agree with Gustaf. Since it sounds like you had your car worked on by your own mechanic, I would say there is a slim chance Ford/Mercury will pony up money for a repair. I am sure they will try to blame your mechanic for the problems.
  • Hello Everyone,

    I used this site back in 2000 and chatted with you nice folks, when I was debating if I should get a cougar or something else... i was sold, and have loved my cat ever since. 2001 V6 with 42k on it. Well I finally have a concern, I've been lucky so far. I was wondering if you guys could help me out.

    These occurances happened around the same time, however I have no idea if they are related.
    1. I fueled up at an out of the way gas station that was priced much lower then the other stations.
    2. I noticed a whiff of a smell, like when my mom's old station wagon was burning "Catalytic Converter" it was brief, but enough for me to go... what the...
    3. My OBD II system light came on, "On Board Diagnostics System" light. The light came on and has been on since a time around the whiff and during the out of the way fueling.
    4. My cat hesitates, and sputters at about 1.5k RPM, regardless of speed. Basically if I am slowly accelerating it will sputter, however if I depress the accelerator harder it's just fine.

    The manual says that this light will come when malfunctions occur in the emission system. The manual suggests these as possible explainations: 1. The vehicle has run out of fuel
    2. The fuel cap may not have been properly installed and tightened
    3. Poor fuel quality or water in the fuel.
    So naturally I guess #3. I ran that fuel completely out of my system down to 18 Miles of fuel left, and refueled at my favorite quality station... two weeks later the light is still on. The car hesitates much less.. maybe 1-2 a day and only when I'm driving cold.
    Now I'm at my ends and am considering taking somewhere to have the system code checked, but everywhere I see they want 50-60 dollars just to hook it up.

    Any suggestions? Is this the oxygen sensor?
  • krnchkrnch Posts: 127
    Sounds like something that happened to me once. I filled up at a station I don't usually use. They were advertising that their gas "cleaned out your engine" as you drove. Shortly after I filled up my check engine light came on. It turned out to be a blown oxygen sensor. During the repair, the dealership extracted a sample of the gasoline from my tank. It was grey in colour. "Bad gas" according to the dealership. I was still under warranty and they fixed it without any charges to me. Perhaps the Cat's oxygen sensors are sensitive to bad gas.
  • gustafscgustafsc Posts: 361
    Considering the timing of the problem, and the change in symptoms after nearly running the system dry, bad gas is a fair guess.

    If there's water in the system, pouring a couple of bottles of HEET (or equivelant) into the tank to absorb any remnants might help.

    If there was dirt in the gas, you may have a problem with the injectors, in which case it could get a little expensive. But, seeing as the sputtering problem is tapering off, you could get lucky and it'll clean itself. Injector cleaner might help.

    Another trick to try would be disconnecting the negative battery lead for a while to let the brain blow it's mind, then re-connect and let it idle for a while to re-calibrate.

    If none of the above help, you'll probably have to get it analyzed and fixed the hard way.

    GOOD LUCK!!!!


    Good to see that there's still a few of us monitoring Edmunds and trying to help those in need. ;-)

    Skip G.
  • Okay so I called Mercury just now and the helpful guy gave me some information...

    I had error code P0401 EGR Flow, I had a check engine light...
    and my car was sluggish and jerky...

    He told me that there is a recall program for that part and named the symptoms...(the light and the jerky acceleration) and that the emission system has a warranty of 5years/60,000 miles for this part (EGR Pressure Sensor)... my car is a 2001 and has 41k miles on it... so I can take it to the dealership and get it fixed, parts and labor for free...

    Thanks Everyone for your help. It's nice to see that there is a community of 'us'. Let me know if I can be of any help to you.
  • gustafscgustafsc Posts: 361
    Congratulations on your good luck in having a problem that's stil under warranty. Hopefully, they won't try to sell you a bunch of other services along the way. (We're not too cynical about Mercury service, are we)

    Skip G.
  • I didn't have any problems at Fiore Motors (FLM) in Norristown Pa.. suburb of philly. They were professional, polite and quick. I got the part fixed in under an hour. In about a week I'll be sure they didn't screw something up.. as long as everything still works... and why on earth would we be cynical about Mercury... I mean they are still proudly making our cougars to this day. heh

  • gustafscgustafsc Posts: 361

    Us? (Not much anyway)

    Understanding that the Cougar had to change or die along with the basic platform on which it was built doesn't make our orphaning any easier.

    What I would like to see is a Cougar badged and bodied version of the Mazda 6. It's got the engine we should have had available in the first place and the sedan versions have been very well received.

    Skip G.

  • Picked up a Cougar with only 57,000 miles in show room like condition inside and out for $3000. Fantastic shape. I may get the front brakes worked on after I pull her out of storage in the spring. (Don't want to get salt.) Any way I have a Suzuki X-90 4X4 for the winter. I did fail to say one thing about my Cougar XR7 however. My cat is a 1979.
  • stageleftstageleft Posts: 391
    Wow, what a year. This is the first time I've posted since early last year, I think. It looks like everyone is doing okay, and that's a good thing. Funny how life gets you caught up in all the non-CSG stuff.

    Anyway, I did attend CougarFEST this year at VA Beach and it wasn't the show it's been in the past but there was a really good turnout. NECO (New Edge Cougar Owners) is thriving and they're waving the flag for all of us Cougar owners.

    I've just cleared 52k on the Cat and it's still a really good vehicle. I paid it off this year and it feels good to be a true owner! I've also made major modifications to the suspension system in regards to preparing it for Auto-X season in the upcoming summer. I still have to add brakes and other possible upgrades to this or that, but on the outside the car has not changed. I still enjoy being a unique entity on the road and there's not much out there turning my eye away from my beautiful Cat.

    One of my new year's resolutions this year will be to participate more with the CSG again (I think I said this last year and look where it got me :-), but will really try to keep in touch from now on.

    It is really good to hear that everyone is doing okay, barring any problems with the car, and I wish you all a Happy New Year!

    Happy Cougaring!

  • Karen_SKaren_S Posts: 5,095
    Good to see your typeface again, Stageleft. :-)

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  • krnchkrnch Posts: 127
    Nice to hear from you again. I no longer have my Cougar, but I stop by here from time to time to see if any of the old gang has posted. I traded my Cougar for a 3.5 Altima after my son was born. It has crazy power, but I miss the sexiness and sportier handling of the Cougar. It's cool to hear they're still running Cougarfest even after production halted. Maybe I'll pick up a vintage one some day. I still think it has collector potential. Good luck with your Auto-xing


  • gustafscgustafsc Posts: 361
    Good to see you again!! Wondered where you went to. Glad to hear that you're still playing with you cat and have more plans for it. I'm just nearing 50K, and havn't had much in the line of recent problems. The RKE system decided to die while on vacation last Fall by blowing it's fuse. Replace fuse, blow fuse. So, I still haven't bothered to get it fixed. I used a key to get into my cars for 40 years, I can still do it. Maybe this Spring.

    Have you heard from or seen Badulah recently? He also seems to have dropped off the face of the Earth.

  • lmigliorelmigliore Posts: 148
    I have a '99 V6 manual. Recently, the battery light goes on around 6000 RPM; it goes off when the revs drop below 6000. Is this a sign of trouble?
  • gustafscgustafsc Posts: 361
    I've read that this may be an indication of alternator or belt problems. How are you revving to 6K when the limiter is programmed for 5600? ;-)

    Skip G
  • lmigliorelmigliore Posts: 148
    I get a few more revs than that. Per the manual, the highest continuous RPM is 6700 and the maximum intermittent RPM is 6925. You have to spin these things so they'll get out of their own way.
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